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slavelorrie -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (6/28/2006 9:49:30 AM)
i am really a perfect size "10"....i just surround it with all of this fat to keep it from getting scratched! LOLOL

slavelorrie -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (6/28/2006 9:50:32 AM)
..why do i have an ice cream cone and the word "Vanilla" beside it when i post? LOL

agirl -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (6/28/2006 9:54:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy quote: ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth this slave always hated that scale anyway!!![:)] If you are committed to being fit, the scale is a friend, not a foe. >One technique to prevent regaining the lost pounds is daily weigh-ins. This idea makes sense: By seeing what the scale reads each day you have a better chance of catching small weight gains and getting back on track with diet and exercise as soon as possible. A recent study by Brown University psychologist Rena Wing, Ph.D., supports this theory. She showed that dieters who weighed themselves daily had less chance of gaining back weight that they had lost than those who weighed themselves less frequently. For many people, daily weigh-ins can be very successful. Keeping a higher level of awareness on small weight changes can motivate the dieter to maintain a healthy lifestyle.< Hello cloudboy, I don't need scales to indicate anything ....I have a perfectly good mirror. ......lol agirl

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (6/28/2006 9:56:58 AM)
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MasterKalif -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (6/28/2006 10:00:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross quote: ORIGINAL: hizgeorgiapeach Keep in mind, when you fall for this particular strain of popular opinion, that Marilyn Monroe was/is considered one of the sexiest women of all time and SHE was a size 14! Since it's been less than 50 years since the height of her popularity, her own case gives a fairly good indication of just how quickly popular opinion can shift. This is a very common line thrown around- with Monroe being attributed to anywhere between size 10 and 16. Point is, sizes can vary dramatically based on maker and model, and sizes are not made today as they were in the past. At 175 I'm a size 14 in most of today's clothes. Trust me, Monroe was a lot smaller than I am. The reality is that most men prefer women who are not very overweight in terms of pure physical attraction, this has nothing to do with marketing or clothing sizes. I totally agree....I also think men generally (and I am sure many women as well) dont like their potential partners too overweight (health issues and lets face it, everything starts with the "physical" attraction then we see if we want to know whats inside) but also many (and I include myself here) dont want a CK model look a like who looks bulimic and is skin and bones...[&:]

ThunderRoad -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (6/28/2006 10:01:48 AM)
18 Pages and little to no legitimate discussion of what the original question was, just a lot of defensive ranting. I'm actually disappointed that people can't ask a conversational question without being labeled, berated, belittled and condemed. I thought we as a community were above that kind of shit.

hizgeorgiapeach -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (6/28/2006 10:02:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross It used to be a sign of a lady to NEVER be tanned at all. Now, it's overwhelmingly popular to scramble to become a golden goddess from the sun (or chemicals). The idea that a lady was Never to be/look tanned went hand in hand with the idea that her carrying extra weight was desirable. A woman who had to work in the fields all day got a lot of sun exposure as she sweated off any excess weight or simply couldn't grow/afford sufficient food supplies to gain any pad. A woman who was wealthy/provided for was inside instead, doing embroidery and supervising the running of her household servants in their various tasks, seldom if ever exposed to hours of sunlight. The primary difference that I see between this and weight issues, specifically, is the seeming preponderance of proven potential health risks leading to condemnation for weight - as opposed to the proven potential health risks associated with UV exposure leading to a mass marketing of artifical chemical means of perpetuating the popularity. Both hold health risks. Both have been Proven to have various health risks, typically when taken in combination with other risks, overall lifestyle, genetic predisposition, etc. Yet with weight issues (both over and under) there is a significantly greater stigma attached, and no methods come up with to maintain the Appearance while limiting the Risk. Sure, there's plenty of methods touted and advertised and marketed to supposedly help you ACTUALLY LOSE the weight, and which put themselves out there as "the" method to gain that Popular size/shape, but not to keep your CURRENT size/shape and "eliminate" the risks associated with weight issues of whatever nature. The opposite is the case with tanning - there are plenty of methods (and more being developed every year) to maintain the Appearance, and Substitute the Risks. They have yet to sufficiently prove that the various Chemical means of maintaining the Look of a tan aren't just as potentially cancer causing as actually getting the UV over exposure, and little (if anything) is said concerning That risk in "tanning."

Mercnbeth -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (6/28/2006 10:03:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy quote: ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth this slave always hated that scale anyway!!![:)] If you are committed to being fit, the scale is a friend, not a foe. >One technique to prevent regaining the lost pounds is daily weigh-ins. This idea makes sense: By seeing what the scale reads each day you have a better chance of catching small weight gains and getting back on track with diet and exercise as soon as possible. A recent study by Brown University psychologist Rena Wing, Ph.D., supports this theory. She showed that dieters who weighed themselves daily had less chance of gaining back weight that they had lost than those who weighed themselves less frequently. For many people, daily weigh-ins can be very successful. Keeping a higher level of awareness on small weight changes can motivate the dieter to maintain a healthy lifestyle.< actually, NOT getting on the scale every day helps this slave to maintain a healthy lifestyle. How? by not becoming just one more item on the list of things to fixate about that really aren't a problem. this slave doesn't have and never has had an "over-weight" problem based in REALITY. as has been previously mentioned, due to several different issues, one being hormone levels that mimic pregnancy most of the time, nasuea is a symptom that has been and still is very common. this slave also has experienced some drug and food allergies (aspirin and red meat, just to name two). for years no fewer than 6 different Doctor's argued for and against, theorized and discounted anorexia, ulcers, IBS, allergies, ileocecal valve inflammation,and finally decided that due to the hormonal speedway and a type of BDD that makes looking in the mirror like looking in a Fun House mirror, managing the symptoms and maintaining a "healthy" weight and mind was and still is the goal. thanks for the suggestion, cloudboy, but this slave swore off the scale for many years... and it was one of the BEST things she ever did. hopping on it occasionally and using the newfangled BMI feature that reported this slave's obesity to her did nothing for her but test her resolve not to let it attempt to control this slave's thoughts by stirring up negativity that had already been put to bed!!!!

MasterKalif -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (6/28/2006 10:05:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThunderRoad 18 Pages and little to no legitimate discussion of what the original question was, just a lot of defensive ranting. I'm actually disappointed that people can't ask a conversational question without being labeled, berated, belittled and condemed. I thought we as a community were above that kind of shit. I agree....maybe someone can re-state the original thread or question....

litleone8620 -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (6/28/2006 10:09:56 AM)
We all know that most people misunderstood the OP, that much is obvious from the first few pages. But you will also notice that the people who flamed the OP haven't come back to defend their posts. Coincidence?

zumala -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (6/28/2006 10:14:01 AM)
Hi, beth. [:)] Personally I think that strength and endurance are very good measures of fitness. Scales and BMI really aren't that helpful. Your weight isn't all fat, and the scale can't tell fat from muscle. If you can go for a jog and not feel like you're about to keel over, that's a good indicator of health. If you can do a couple of chin-ups, your upper body is in decent shape. Actually, weight's just one of many things to consider when looking at health. It's like staring at a stamen and missing out on the entire flower. Muscle tone, hydration, cardio fitness, healthy eating (balanced, not over-doing or excluding anything, including healthy fats like olive oil or nuts), lack of drugs in your system, lack of smoking, getting enough sleep, keeping stress levels down... there's a plethora of things that contribute to a person being in good health. So the solution? Sure, keep an eye on what you eat, but concentrate on living life well. There are a lot of factors to consider besides weight, so watch the flower and not the stamen. [:)] zuma

MistressSassy66 -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (6/28/2006 10:18:03 AM)
I personally dont care about weight,other than health issues from it. I am something like 20 pounds heavier than I "should" be....whatever There are worse things to worry about than that wide load behind ya.

agirl -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (6/28/2006 10:30:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: zumala Hi, beth. [:)] Personally I think that strength and endurance are very good measures of fitness. Scales and BMI really aren't that helpful. Your weight isn't all fat, and the scale can't tell fat from muscle. If you can go for a jog and not feel like you're about to keel over, that's a good indicator of health. If you can do a couple of chin-ups, your upper body is in decent shape. Actually, weight's just one of many things to consider when looking at health. It's like staring at a stamen and missing out on the entire flower. Muscle tone, hydration, cardio fitness, healthy eating (balanced, not over-doing or excluding anything, including healthy fats like olive oil or nuts), lack of drugs in your system, lack of smoking, getting enough sleep, keeping stress levels down... there's a plethora of things that contribute to a person being in good health. So the solution? Sure, keep an eye on what you eat, but concentrate on living life well. There are a lot of factors to consider besides weight, so watch the flower and not the stamen. [:)] zuma Hello zumala, I agree. There's a few people at my gym that are a LOT fitter than I am even though they look fatter than I do. Having said that ...... It's not too hard to tell someone that's sporting a lot of fat from someone that's sporting a lot of muscle. Apart from medical issues, people are generally over-weight because they eat too much or too much of the type of food that will result in weight gain and they do not move around enough. You can gorge on lambs lettuce and barely gain an ounce...... if you gorge on choc, you'll pile it on. For most people ( not all, ok)....it's perfectly possible to be whatever size you wish to be, for your genetic build.........being fat is attainable , being slim is attainable, being fit is attainable........ it's mostly choice. agirl

QuietDom -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (6/28/2006 10:32:08 AM)
LA, I think that lorrie was proposing to kill this discussion by supplanting it with the infamous Ice Cream Cone discussion. I propose the following question... Are overweight slaves who have the ice cream cone beside their posts really slaves, or just subs? (Hopefully that one will cause the thread to implode under its own weight!)

TNstepsout -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (6/28/2006 10:35:48 AM)
quote: I thought we as a community were above that kind of shit. Why would you think that?

litleone8620 -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (6/28/2006 10:41:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: QuietDom LA, I think that lorrie was proposing to kill this discussion by supplanting it with the infamous Ice Cream Cone discussion. I propose the following question... Are overweight slaves who have the ice cream cone beside their posts really slaves, or just subs? (Hopefully that one will cause the thread to implode under its own weight!) So what are you saying? Are you saying that overweight subs are more likely to eat ice cream than any other subs? Ugh, how incredibly close minded of you. [:D] QD, as much as we all want this thread to disappear into the night, it's not going to. There will be new people coming in who didn't catch it the first time around, and will want to post their opinion. Good try though.

litleone8620 -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (6/28/2006 10:42:35 AM)
Oh, and let's NOT do the whole sub vs slave discussion. The horror!

kc692 -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (6/28/2006 10:42:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MistressOfGa quote: The reality is that most men prefer women who are not very overweight in terms of pure physical attraction, this has nothing to do with marketing or clothing sizes. I would like to know where you get "most men" from. Is this the general public? Men you know? Men in your town? My reality, most of the men I know prefer women who are not size 14 and under, but size 18 and up. I base that on my own experience, not a study or poll. I get alot of letters from men on CM (including Doms) who have complimented me on my photos <shrugs>, they don't know me, they are going purely on the photos that I have posted here, so basically they are basing their opinions on pure physical attraction, which have nothing to do with personality or intelligence. I wasn't going to back on this thread, and in reality am not commenting on the OPs comment at all. I just had to remark how well written your reply was MOG.

kc692 -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (6/28/2006 10:47:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: litleone8620 We all know that most people misunderstood the OP, that much is obvious from the first few pages. But you will also notice that the people who flamed the OP haven't come back to defend their posts. Coincidence? I hope they are doing that in hopes this thread will DIE.

Calandra -> RE: Overweight bdsm women (6/28/2006 10:47:56 AM)
agirl, While I agree in part, I think that some factors can prevent a person from being the weight they want to be... A person might be large framed, and it isn't reasonable for them to want to be thin... A person might be small framed and the opposite is true. A person might have a high metabolism and simply cannot maintain a larger size even if they wanted to, while someone with a slower metabolism would have to eat an unhealthy small amount of food to lose weight. Three years ago I was in an auto accident... I simply cannot be as active as I used to be and though I have not gained weight, some of it has converted to fat rather than muscle... wow I miss hiking and doing what I want when I want... Nowadays I have to plan my activities based upon pain level and weather factors (thunderstorms can put me to bed for days)... The issue of weight is usually broken down into "appearance/attraction" and "health/fitness" issues... I'm so glad that I am able to feel confident no matter what my size, because I like me and I have people in my life who like me... Maybe once I can get the surgery I need, I'll be able to get back to my active self... but I suspect the "road back" will be a hard one simply because my body has gotten accustomed to this inactivity for waaaayyyy too long.

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