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littlewonder -> RE: I really don't want to flounce, but... (6/25/2013 6:28:49 PM)

So they don't answer so you go off and find something else to do. I figure they have a life if they don't answer back. I've been known not to answer emails anywhere from a few days to a month if I'm really busy with life or I feel it's just not that important to bother.




jlf1961 -> RE: I really don't want to flounce, but... (6/25/2013 6:44:06 PM)

What, am I getting some sort of special treatment?

The first time I got modded, when the time was up, I sent an email and got an answer inside of three days. The second time was inside of five days.

Considering they are not paid to sit in front of the computer for hours on end, do you really expect an instant answer? And when you send a message cussing the mod, or insulting, you really expect them to answer at all?




tazzygirl -> RE: I really don't want to flounce, but... (6/25/2013 6:47:40 PM)

Same here. I had to ask to have my moderation removed because time was up.

Its MY job to remind them because it was MY fault I got put on it in the first place.




Kaliko -> RE: I really don't want to flounce, but... (6/25/2013 7:05:33 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961

That brings up a rather obvious point, if you dont like the way the mods handle things on collarme, you can always go elsewhere. If you chose to use collarme, then you agree that you will accept the actions of the mods.

That means:

1) you accept that the mods may not act or take action in the manner in which you would.
2) You accept that they may behave or act in a manner that you may perceive as petty and arbitrary.
3) You accept that if you dont like the way things are done, you can chose to use another website.



I've heard this over and over throughout the years. And the more I hear it, the more it grates on me. Yes, technically, of course you're correct. And yes, if I don't like the way things are done I can choose to use another website. But first, before I do that, I will try to work it out. As I've said before, moderators here have, indeed, listened to us. At one point during the post-pulling frenzy a little while back, the suggestion was made that maybe moderators could make a brief statement as to why a thread was being shut down instead of just making the statement that it was closed. And I noticed shortly after that those brief statements began to appear. We asked for a recipes forum. We have it. I suggested something once directly to Alpha and it was done. I'll say it again. There is collaboration. The result often lands on the side of moderation, yes, but it does happen.

So if I know that moderators/site owners can be reasoned with or appealed to, why would I up and leave a place that I like to come to without at least giving it a go? Is it the end of the world if things don't go my way? Obviously not. I've jumped up and down at the idea of a Calvinball forum (love that name), but there still isn't one. I'm not stomping my feet and leaving the sandbox. But when I do find something that is truly bothersome to me - the thought that the differences between myself and moderation were no longer just opinion, but ethics - heck, yes, I'm going to try and clear the air about that. I've invested way too much time here.

And those of you who say that this place means nothing to you, I think thou doth protest too much. There's no possible way you can have thousands of posts, be a daily visitor, and talk so openly about your family, your parents, your marriages, your divorces, your finances, your illnesses, your religion, and your politics and not feel like this site is a part of your life, even in just the tiniest way. Is it bookmarked on your computer? Do you chat with your significant other about it now and then? Do you turn to the I Admit thread when you feel down? (Which, by the way, is pretty often the most depressing thread ever.) Do you smile at Poise's Christmas videos? Do you enjoy that you know what Tap Tap Tap means? Do you roll your eyes and skim past a certain poster because you just know he's going to annoy the fuck out of you? (I know I do.) Congratulations. You're part of a community.

And if I am part of a community such as this, and I'm basically happy here, content, and look forward to joining in, then hell yes I'm going to try to work things out if I'm bothered enough to consider ditching. Is it preferable if I walk away feeling sour, never knowing if there could be a resolution? Honestly...is that how you approach things in your life? I do it differently.






Rawni -> RE: I really don't want to flounce, but... (6/25/2013 7:14:12 PM)

So creating threads, talking about situations that have a few sides to the story even if there are only two sides to the story, making accusations and insults are a way to make change? Interesting concept, but lets call this what it really is. Not an attempt to create change... but a way to get the one or two sides of the story out, vent, accuse and force an agenda.

If you were really all about change... you didn't have to do all those other things.




littlewonder -> RE: I really don't want to flounce, but... (6/25/2013 7:23:11 PM)

Yeah, I have thousands of posts and I'm usually here in the evenings but this site is nothing more than entertainment value. It's the same reason I turn on the tv and watch stupid stuff that is so stupid it makes you laugh because you know how stupid it is. It's mindless entertainment. Yeah, I talk about my life here but I talk about my life to my boss, my friends, my family, my daughter, Master, co-workers, forums on other sites that have nothing to do with bdsm...hell, total strangers. Doesn't mean anything. It just means I have nothing to hide and so I don't really care what others know. But I also have a set of ethics where I don't go and scream out to the mountaintop those things that I know will get me fired from work or make my friends uncomfortable or piss Master off and so I also don't do those things here that would get me banned. It's called ethics and common courtesy.

Yeah, I get gold letters but I don't get banned. Why? Common courtesy and following the rules. But if for some odd reason I did get banned...so what? It's just not a big deal. I've been put on time out on other sites in the past. I may think I was not wrong for what I said but I still didn't care about the ban. I just found a good book to read, another website, worked on homework, hung out with Master or friends or family or whatever.





Kaliko -> RE: I really don't want to flounce, but... (6/25/2013 7:27:35 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Rawni

So creating threads, talking about situations that have a few sides to the story even if there are only two sides to the story, making accusations and insults are a way to make change? Interesting concept, but lets call this what it really is. Not an attempt to create change... but a way to get the one or two sides of the story out, vent, accuse and force an agenda.

If you were really all about change... you didn't have to do all those other things.



No argument there. It was, indeed, a vent.

And I'm sure you can agree I'm not the first person to let it fly a bit on the boards.




Rawni -> RE: I really don't want to flounce, but... (6/25/2013 7:37:20 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kaliko


quote:

ORIGINAL: Rawni

So creating threads, talking about situations that have a few sides to the story even if there are only two sides to the story, making accusations and insults are a way to make change? Interesting concept, but lets call this what it really is. Not an attempt to create change... but a way to get the one or two sides of the story out, vent, accuse and force an agenda.

If you were really all about change... you didn't have to do all those other things.



No argument there. It was, indeed, a vent.

And I'm sure you can agree I'm not the first person to let it fly a bit on the boards.


No you aren't and you aren't the first to highlight or prove that sometimes the stories aren't all they are cracked up to be. We see the same complaints, even resolved ones, repeatedly and over what? Poor moderation? How about a combination of things that will not get resolved by finger pointing and agendas other that creating a situation where people can actually work things out. You know like when your man does something you don't like and you need to make things better? If this is how anything is resolved, it would have worked when all those others you saw spoke out. So there was some change. Does that mean that when someone is bad, they can bitch about correction because it wasn't done the way they want/expect or demand it is done and can stomp their feet until they force change? Really?

We cannot know who is telling the truth and who has a legitimate claim. We can tell when someone is really trying to sort something out and has good intentions. How about some of that? Nothing around here is perfect, but that includes the need for moderators because so many decide to do things that make mods a requirement. It cannot be only the mods that are the problem here and for those that admit they have had some problems and have been moderated to lay blame more on a mod than themselves, I find that hypocritical.




Spiritedsub2 -> RE: I really don't want to flounce, but... (6/25/2013 8:21:58 PM)

Sure we don't need that Calvinball group right about now? [:D]




Marini -> RE: I really don't want to flounce, but... (6/25/2013 9:04:44 PM)

[sm=applause.gif]
Alrighty now Ms. Kaliko.
I'm glad the mods/Lady Alpha got it sorted out with Mr.A, and now your Master can post again.

The big question, that no one has asked is.......... Will it last?
Can he enjoy his CollarMe experiences and stay off moderation?

I hope so.


Peace




DaddySatyr -> RE: I really don't want to flounce, but... (6/25/2013 9:20:41 PM)

Okay. I've been sitting here, biting my tongue but enough is enough.

"Calvinball" (and I loved "Calvin and Hobbs") is a cheap rip-off of T.E.G.W.A.R.




ARIES83 -> RE: I really don't want to flounce, but... (6/25/2013 9:31:57 PM)

Classic Shatner.




DaddySatyr -> RE: I really don't want to flounce, but... (6/25/2013 9:40:48 PM)

Shatner was "Fizzbin" from the episode "A Piece of the Action" in Star Trek.

T.E.G.W.A.R. was from a film called: "Bang The Drum, Slowly" and starred Michael Moriarity and Robert DiNero.




TAFKAA -> RE: I really don't want to flounce, but... (6/25/2013 9:53:34 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Rawni

It never seizes to amaze me, how Benjamin Button adults can be.
Why, yes. The mature response is to have a public melt-down all over the boards, then delete. Everyone knows that.




SoulAlloy -> RE: I really don't want to flounce, but... (6/25/2013 11:42:48 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

Shatner was "Fizzbin" from the episode "A Piece of the Action" in Star Trek.

T.E.G.W.A.R. was from a film called: "Bang The Drum, Slowly" and starred Michael Moriarity and Robert DiNero.



I think Aries is referring to TekWar, a series of books by Shatner (I suspect it was ghost written mind) and actually developed into a TV series at one point




dcnovice -> RE: I really don't want to flounce, but... (6/26/2013 12:30:14 AM)

quote:

I really don't want to flounce

Then don't. [:)]




ARIES83 -> RE: I really don't want to flounce, but... (6/26/2013 1:40:32 AM)

Shatner’s amazing… He creates the basic story, gets someone else to write it… When it gets picked up for TV… He decides to give himself a job playing the boss… The man writes his own checks haha (figuratively).
All Dom.

Not many have a high opinion of the show, but I love crapfests, seriously B grade 80’s/90's sci fi is like solid gold to me.

But yes TekWar was my joke, funny/not funny?[:D]




chatterbox24 -> RE: I really don't want to flounce, but... (6/26/2013 5:36:57 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: chatterbox24

Scratches head. I guess I consider myself lucky, cause Ive had my cmail go GOLDEN, very golden. I thought I had died and went to heaven lol.

Honestly, I dont think I have ever reported one post since being on this site. But I sure had steam coming out my ears a few times.[:D]

I have been treated fairly, more then fairly by mods imo, so keep up the good work.


Oh come on! You have never got aggravated over posts that are made? WHy you think people get moderated or banned to begin with? THey get passionate over what they are talking about, debate, try to reason, or plain get passionate in what they believe in and sometimes LOSE THEIR COOL. They are in the moment, and it happens everyday on here! The place doesnt have to be that important, and no it isnt that important to me, but I do enjoy coming here.
In the past, I was so damn pissed, I was fighting mad! Just the truth. Now I dont get mad at all, maybe annoyed, but not mad.
Thanks for the advice Rawni, maybe getting laid once a day isnt good enough, I should go for twice!




chatterbox24 -> RE: I really don't want to flounce, but... (6/26/2013 7:17:09 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder

why would you have steam coming out of your ears over collarme and something that happened here? I mean, really. It's that important to you?

I can't imagine a website making me so angry when in reality I had better things to get upset over...like my family or my daughter or work or bills, etc...


The above post was suppose to be lilwonder in "quotes" somehow I quoted myself. [sm=fight.gif]




tazzygirl -> RE: I really don't want to flounce, but... (6/26/2013 7:25:21 AM)

I didnt lose my cool... I just lowered myself to someone else's level after watching him in action for months. My post wasnt in anger or frustration. Just the hair of the dog sorta thing




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