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VideoAdminAlpha -> RE: I really don't want to flounce, but... (6/25/2013 12:15:43 AM)
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ORIGINAL: TAFKAA
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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl
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ORIGINAL: Kaliko
he doesn't know what you're referring to.
How about now?
No.
Awareness was never perma-banned. It was "banned until you email Alpha" and there were no connotations of "working things out", it was just blunt "until you email Alpha".
The problem there was, they were engineering a power play. They initiated action by banning me and then Alpha wanted me to come to her like some kind of pissant supplicant? Fuck that. If she was sincere, she should have commenced the conversation herself, but she didn't. So, frankly, I didn't regard Gamma's email as anything other than trying to initiate a permaban and then claiming it was somehow my fault. Which, funnily enough, Alpha has just done.
I emailed her saying something along the lines of "What the fuck good is emailing you supposed to do?" and she chose not to respond. And hasn't responded since. So I find her explanation of the sequence of events somewhat disingenuous. Frankly, I did my part, I emailed Alpha and if they didn't live up to their side of the bargain, that was hardly my fault.
When I created TAFKAA, it was more of a joke than anything else and my signature line made it plain I was Awareness. So nobody could have ever missed that fact and at no stage did I attempt to hide. I expected to get booted pretty quickly, so Alpha getting all self-righteous about me violating terms of service is rather odd. Besides, people don't get banned here for violating terms of service, they get banned for other reasons and unlike most people, I've actually read the terms of service. There's not half the shit in there that you people claim there is. It's a legal document, not a document setting out a code of conduct.
As for the two months - frankly, what the fuck do I know about what goes on behind the scenes? They said two months, that time expired weeks ago and nothing changed. Given that Alpha refused to respond to my last email, I'm hardly going to bother trying to email her again. Kaliko asked me what happened and I told her I suspected the two month figure was a lie and they'd gone permaban without bothering to tell me.
Frankly, since they let Gamma run amok, there's been no indication of fairness whatsoever here. What got me banned was that I had a post pulled for calling out a group of people for their poor conduct in jumping all over a newbie and then watched as those same people were given carte blanche to say whatever they liked.
Losing a post is one thing. Watching other people make personal attacks in the same thread and get away with it was more than I could tolerate. I posted a bout of personal abuse which was pretty unfair on Chi and that's when they banned TAFKAA.
To be fair, I deserved that one. And Chi, for what it's worth - I'm sorry.
Having said that, I'd be genuinely stunned if someone took what I said to heart. I'm just pixels on a screen, after all. At least that's what people seem to keep telling each other.
I debated whether to bother responding to Alpha's post but at the very least she needs to learn that every event has multiple perspectives. And what she considers "highly abusive", I consider mild to the point of milquetoast. In fact, Alpha, would you care to enlighten me as to how the following email is "highly abusive"? This is the email I sent to Chi:
"2 months? Can you guys count or what?
There are poor benighted souls on this board who are clearly in desperate need of my wisdom. It simply isn't charitable to let your personal dislike of me interfere with their growth as human beings."
Highly abusive? Really? THIS is highly abusive? Then why aren't you pulling all the other "highly abusive" comments in threads, which are clearly, obviously, worse than this?
Alpha has her perspective, I have mine. I'm quite capable of taking it on the chin for things I DO do, but watching Alpha make claims which simply don't stack up, really isn't my cup of tea.
As for Kaliko. This is more for her, than me. She enjoys watching my interaction with others - for a variety of reasons. I'm certainly not interested in demeaning myself to remain here, nor could I really be bothered employing the various technical methods available to circumvent any banning. Sure, I enjoy sounding off here, and there are a surprising number of people who enjoy reading what I write - but getting banned was never an epic tragedy.
Now, can we move on - or are we going to have another hissy fit?
Wow.....lets see,
First paragraph: quote:
Awareness was never perma-banned. It was "banned until you email Alpha" and there were no connotations of "working things out", it was just blunt "until you email Alpha".
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The problem there was, they were engineering a power play. They initiated action by banning me and then Alpha wanted me to come to her like some kind of pissant supplicant? Fuck that. If she was sincere, she should have commenced the conversation herself, but she didn't. S
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I emailed her saying something along the lines of "What the fuck good is emailing you supposed to do?" and she chose not to respond. And hasn't responded since. So I find her explanation of the sequence of events somewhat disingenuous. Frankly, I did my part, I emailed Alpha and if they didn't live up to their side of the bargain, that was hardly my fault.
Make up your mind...did you or didn’t you email me? I’m saying you didn't and I will not put in here the exact wording where you told Gamma in fact that you would not and why, but apparently you appear to not know whether you did or not. And since you didn’t, that is why the Awareness nick never came off ban. Simple really. No hissy fits, you were very calmly informed as to what you should do, and you felt above the regulations. I decided to go ahead and give you another chance with this nick. The thread you made that resulted in THIS ban did not result from you talking badly about a group of posters on this board, it resulted from calling a moderator a lying sack of shit, and a mealy-mouthed, worthless, asshole-enabling, rancid pool of pig's vomit. You also suggested that she find a job as a supervisor at a children’s crossing, and suggested that MAYBE she would “handle that one without comprehensively fucking that one up”. You also said she was exhibiting asshole behavior, and the list goes on. Even telling her that she disgusted you, among other things.
As to whether or not I should have emailed you first concerning YOUR inappropriate behavior at that time on the boards: No offense, you were told what many are told when moderators think I should be involved. Nothing special because of who you think you may be or may not be on these boards, although as you explained to Gamma, you were above needed to write anyone as you were a “true dominant” and should not have to explain yourself.
Try to put whatever twist you want on the situation, you were told to email me about the moderation under Awareness, and you did not (as evidenced by your first statement, too late to be changing it at this time. And yet you called Chi a liar……..
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To be fair, I deserved that one.
You do realize that is what this moderation period was about correct ( the two months)?
I tried to give you another chance and let you keep posting under this nick because, yes, there were people that read your posts, and I also saw value in a lot of your posts, when you didn’t stray into personal attack territory. And here we are after letting that happen..and you still not admitting any culpability for your actions. I will admit mine, I actually didn’t notice it was time to remove your moderation. My bad, my fault, that your moderation lasted longer than the 2 months, because I’m the one that pulls the action off moderated nicks, and I had not looked at the master list, and in truth had not thought one second about any one particular members time out. (Again, my bad, I dropped the ball.) Did you write me as the supervisor, or write Chi a letter when she did not have the power to remove the moderation?( Don’t say you don’t know please, your moderation letter stated that I had asked her to write you and let you know moderation was occurring, and in the past Gamma said you needed to contact me.) Did you write me though? No you wrote her, and it seems was under the impression there was some type of plot and we had lied at the beginning of the moderation period YOU EARNED BY YOUR ACTIONS and that we had perma-banned you without telling you….sorry to set the record straight, but we spent no more time discussing you than we would any other member that repeatedly performed the same violations as you did.
You are off moderation now. What happens from here on is up to you.
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