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hrxxx -> RE: Online only? (7/1/2013 5:25:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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Here are some pictures so you can see if there is a difference between sub and slave.
slave or sub?


ROFL

I know pain sluts who are into most of what you posted. And they are not slaves. They just happen to enjoy pain and they negotiate the play.

I know subs who are absolute cum sluts... some who are piss whores... some who enjoy being "raped"... and not a single one are slaves.

Quit following a fantasy here.

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TNDommeK is right! A slave can not say no!


Wrong.

"Has the mail come yet, slut?" "No, Master"

"Did that hurt?" "No, Master"

An appropriate time to say no.

A smart owner never puts their slave into a position to HAVE to say no.

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BDSM criteria first and everything else is unimportant, so we are back where we started!
After 8 pages are my conclusions tion only that you live in a D /. relationship., and is the slave by tittel only


It would be wonderful if you had a typing slave who could help you with spelling. However, do not assume you know my situation, what my relationship is with other people, or how I am viewed by friends and those I know personally in the lifestyle.

But, frankly speaking, since you just belittled some people I happen to respect highly, and assumed you know more about me than the man I live with, allow me to express an opinion.

You are looking for a fantasy... I suggest you stick to the fantasy. You want a no limits slave who will allow you to do what you want, when you want, how you want. I suggest you figure out before you attempt those things that what YOU want is what SHE wants, instead of assuming she will meekly accept all your desires... else, you will be posting to the message boards from jail.


Since insanity is unlimited on this board, I try to explain it in a simple way

Yes in a way I am looking for a limitless slave because I HAVE LIMITS and seek ONLY girls who whose limits lies within my limits, so I can go to my limit without breaking her limit, SO NO I WILL NEVER GO TO JAIL.

The only one that ends up harming others is YOU! If you continue to talk about your fantasy interpretation of what slave means.

If a submissive come in here believe in what you have written, and she change her profile to the slave, and fill it up with vennila crap and she finds a Master without limits then she can thank you for a life in hell!




TNDommeK -> RE: Online only? (7/1/2013 5:27:31 AM)

Everyone has limits. What's that saying about a chainsaw?

If you find someone who says they have no limits....run.




tazzygirl -> RE: Online only? (7/1/2013 5:29:33 AM)

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If I asked her to dance and she said no, I would ask if she is hurt or what's wrong that she can't. If there wasn't a suitable enough answer and she was just saying "no" bc she didn't want to, then there is a problem. As a slave she should do as told, otherwise, what is the point of her service and my dominance over her?


Of course she should without a good excuse. Not wanting too isnt a good excuse. I do lots of things I dont want to do, but since I am told, I do them.

You said you would ask if she was hurt. My jumping off a bridge would hurt me, so I would say "no" and explain that I couldnt because it would hurt me. I have that right, given by him. If he recinds that right, then I have to rethink my position with him.

Slavery in the lifestyle is consensual. I give consent to serve. Thats the only consent that is required. The moment I say "no" that is not justified in his eyes, he has the right to determine if my "no" means I am no longer in his service.

Simply saying "A slave does not have the right to say "no", isnt correct. She can say no at any time. Its how her owner takes that "no" that determines the outcome of the relationship.




tazzygirl -> RE: Online only? (7/1/2013 5:38:57 AM)

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Yes in a way I am looking for a limitless slave because I HAVE LIMITS and seek ONLY girls who whose limits lies within my limits, so I can go to my limit without breaking her limit, SO NO I WILL NEVER GO TO JAIL.


Then what gives you the right to say I am not a slave when I serve within the limits given to me by the man I serve???

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The only one that ends up harming others is YOU! If you continue to talk about your fantasy interpretation of what slave means.


I dont deal well with .. yeah.... you.

Your fear about me and the others on this board is that you cant command us to shut up and that is pissing you off.. which is rather funny to me. But there ya go.

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If a submissive come in here believe in what you have written, and she change her profile to the slave, and fill it up with vennila crap and she finds a Master without limits then she can thank you for a life in hell!


You obviously do not understand English.

You who didnt know the difference between a Dom and a Master until I explained it to you.

You who spouts about women not being able to say no, despite the men they serve telling them they can.

Who left you in charge of determining what is slavery and what isnt?

THATS what you arent getting here.

You flash a bunch of porno flick photos and insist they are slaves.. which is rather laughable because all those women were paid for their time. You have no proof of their lives outside of those movies, yet you hold them up as the example of being "true slaves".

Being a slave isnt all about getting her rocks off.. it isnt all about sex... or all about pain... or all about cum. Its also about serving when its hard, when she is sick, when she is tired, when she is grumpy, when she is mad, when she is hurt... because a slave DESIRES to serve, despite her limitations or the expectations of men on a message board who think its ALL about sex.




bobsworld -> RE: Online only? (7/1/2013 6:02:52 AM)

I am fairly new to the site(3-4 weeks) and I have noticed the same, girls are not interested in RL. A lot of them are listed as slave but when you get to talk to them they don't take it serious. You want to try call them get to know them and they say no thanks. Also I think I have an answer to all this as to why the site is like this. I have noticed that the site has been going down hill even just the short time I been here, there has been less and less people signing up and its only the same people using the site at certain times. Yes you can see who is new on the site just click NEW USERS on the left hand side it shows you. I have been click that for a few days now and its the same people. Also there is a bunch of scams going around, Mainly the same person from(phillipines) but I wont mention names that way its safe to post here :) also I have his ip and they are using many different profiles (8 current ones I know of) so this could also be why as there could be much more bots / spam people then we relize here. So I think its lack of honest new users here to be honest.




lizi -> RE: Online only? (7/1/2013 6:16:23 AM)

Back again b0bbysw0rld?

The irony of you using a sock puppet account to bemoan the lack of new, honest users is absolutely hysterical.




bobsworld -> RE: Online only? (7/1/2013 6:26:58 AM)

I have 2 accounts 1 I use at my friends and 1 I use at home. Also I never complained about new users. I was only stating MY opinions why i felt that person was having trouble finding a true slave. But i do thank you for your comments lizi




TNDommeK -> RE: Online only? (7/1/2013 6:31:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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If I asked her to dance and she said no, I would ask if she is hurt or what's wrong that she can't. If there wasn't a suitable enough answer and she was just saying "no" bc she didn't want to, then there is a problem. As a slave she should do as told, otherwise, what is the point of her service and my dominance over her?


Of course she should without a good excuse. Not wanting too isnt a good excuse. I do lots of things I dont want to do, but since I am told, I do them.

You said you would ask if she was hurt. My jumping off a bridge would hurt me, so I would say "no" and explain that I couldnt because it would hurt me. I have that right, given by him. If he recinds that right, then I have to rethink my position with him.

Slavery in the lifestyle is consensual. I give consent to serve. Thats the only consent that is required. The moment I say "no" that is not justified in his eyes, he has the right to determine if my "no" means I am no longer in his service.

Simply saying "A slave does not have the right to say "no", isnt correct. She can say no at any time. Its how her owner takes that "no" that determines the outcome of the relationship.

That is 100% correct. I think I wasn't understanding what you were saying. But yes, she can physically say no at any time. I can show her the door after.
My apologies for not understanding.

In response to bob...she isn't in anyone's service here so she has the right to say what she pleases.
She is a person first. I think the whole fantasy world might have you thrown off a bit.




DarkSteven -> RE: Online only? (7/1/2013 6:44:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: hrxxx

Since insanity is unlimited on this board, I try to explain it in a simple way

Yes in a way I am looking for a limitless slave because I HAVE LIMITS and seek ONLY girls who whose limits lies within my limits, so I can go to my limit without breaking her limit, SO NO I WILL NEVER GO TO JAIL.

The only one that ends up harming others is YOU! If you continue to talk about your fantasy interpretation of what slave means.

If a submissive come in here believe in what you have written, and she change her profile to the slave, and fill it up with vennila crap and she finds a Master without limits then she can thank you for a life in hell!


The word "insanity" being defined as disagreeing with you?

Let me try to explain what you're saying. That's analogous to walking into a grocery store and saying that there are foods you like and foods you don't like, so you want to buy one of each one just to make sure. If you know yourself, you don't need to ask for no-limit slaves.

Let me explain it another way. Bestiality and sexual use of children are two very common limits, as well as scat. Since you insist on only women that will allow all three, you reduce the number of available women sharply. If you were interested in actually meeting women, you'd simply note that you're not interested in those either.

And regarding getting pressed with charges - just make sure she doesn't get pissed off enough to file charges. That's much more reasonable than assuming you'll need a doormat or inflatable doll. Keep in mind that violation of limits isn't the only thing that pisses women off.

Edited to add:


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ORIGINAL: bobsworld

As far as the reason why i spelled your name wrong is because the site admins don't tend to like when i make honest comments about people. so that's why i make the name close but not exact. That way it appeared as if i was talking to you and you responded, but i clearly did not write your name :) ultimately it worked.


You pull that kind of childish passive aggressive bullshit and call yourself a Dom? As a Dom, I resent the implication that someone who hasn't outgrown namecalling would call himself one.




TNDommeK -> RE: Online only? (7/1/2013 6:50:41 AM)

The last line in DS's post is one that should be read over and over again.




lizi -> RE: Online only? (7/1/2013 7:14:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: bobsworld

I have 2 accounts 1 I use at my friends and 1 I use at home. Also I never complained about new users. I was only stating MY opinions why i felt that person was having trouble finding a true slave. But i do thank you for your comments lizi


You seem to have gotten my username right, won't you be hauled off to CM jail now by the mods? So I guess you apply your 'close but not quite' rule unevenly then? Why is that?




thishereboi -> RE: Online only? (7/1/2013 7:30:10 AM)


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ORIGINAL: bobsworld

I am fairly new to the site(3-4 weeks) and I have noticed the same, girls are not interested in RL. A lot of them are listed as slave but when you get to talk to them they don't take it serious. You want to try call them get to know them and they say no thanks. Also I think I have an answer to all this as to why the site is like this. I have noticed that the site has been going down hill even just the short time I been here, there has been less and less people signing up and its only the same people using the site at certain times. Yes you can see who is new on the site just click NEW USERS on the left hand side it shows you. I have been click that for a few days now and its the same people. Also there is a bunch of scams going around, Mainly the same person from(phillipines) but I wont mention names that way its safe to post here :) also I have his ip and they are using many different profiles (8 current ones I know of) so this could also be why as there could be much more bots / spam people then we relize here. So I think its lack of honest new users here to be honest.


According to your profile you are looking for an ONLINE relationship and yet here you are whining because girls aren't interested in RL? And then when you talk to them they don't take you seriously? Seriously, what did you expect.





VideoAdminRho -> RE: Online only? (7/1/2013 8:51:54 AM)

If your post is gone and you did not receive a letter, it was removed for replying or quoting a pulled post.





TieMeInKnottss -> RE: Online only? (7/1/2013 9:46:26 AM)

See...to me the terms are irrelevant. I am a slave because my personality makes it so.. I am happiest being 2nd, being told what to do and how to do it (hey 12 yrs Catholic school...better than the military). There are many on CM & CC that I do not consider Dom, submissive...but that is because of how I define it and...it has nothing to do with kink or sex. I was raised in what I would call a Master/slave enviornment. My dad follows no one, does things his way. He was self-employed because the man could never do B before A if he thought it was wrong or made no sense..just because a supervisor said to do it that way. He ruled our house and my mom did whatever he wanted. If he said dinner was at 6 he did not mean 630 and she would accommodate him no matter what she had to re-arrange or do to get it done (ok..not if she was sick or when she was in chemo..). From the outside, people would say my mom was a doormat or weak...but honestly, she thrived in that enviornment and, looking back...any other type of marriage would have killed her or made her miserable or ended.

Frankly, you can call me whatever...I will accept it, as long as I have someone to protect me, make decisions that I care nothing about but just stress me out because am "strange for NOT caring", keep me on track and who can forge the path we are on...I will be happy. Call me "mistress", "queen"...just don't get angry at me when I ask you what to make for dinner, respond "whatever you like" when asked for favorites or preferences...ask how something should be done....




TNDommeK -> RE: Online only? (7/1/2013 5:16:11 PM)

I like that too. That speaks volumes of dedication.

I don't really get hung up in labels usually but in this case I actually believed they fit in this topic, or this part of the topic.




tazzygirl -> RE: Online only? (7/1/2013 5:37:43 PM)

lol... he just calls me "tazzy".... sorta covers all the facets of the incredible me! [:D] [;)]




hrxxx -> RE: Online only? (7/2/2013 11:37:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: TieMeInKnottss

You may be allowed to walk down the street with a woman on a leash because it is HER decision to allow that. Yes, no one will stop you unless she screams HELP! Or STOP! That is the difference between traditional slavery (& sadly I believe that some countries' lack of women's rights would still permit it even if the woman was screaming) & BDSM slavery. She is your slave and will bend to your will but the DECISION to do so is still hers. Yes, we say a sub gives consent every time but, in reality...if a slave says "no" to sex with her master she can still charge him with rape if he ignores her..the difference is the mindset of the people involved. I don't say no to Him because He is important to me, I want to please him, I want his approval and, saying no, without a valid reason (& HOW I say no) would end our dynamic because it would break our agreement.


It's actually not true when she allows herself to be a slave, then she gives up her rights. So if humiliation was one of her limits before she became a slave, then that limit is broken, but she would not say no.

A slave would not say no! If she said no, she would not be a slave but submissive, it's pretty simple.

You could say that M/S. relationship is limitless and D/S. relationship is with limits, this is a very simple way to see the difference between M/S. and D/S

So, if a submissive girl living in a D/S relationship with role-playing, and playing she is a slave, she can say no. That is quite correct

Definition of slave
A person who is the legal property of another and is forced to obey them

Definition of submissive
Ready to conform to the authority or will of others




hrxxx -> RE: Online only? (7/2/2013 11:39:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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Yes in a way I am looking for a limitless slave because I HAVE LIMITS and seek ONLY girls who whose limits lies within my limits, so I can go to my limit without breaking her limit, SO NO I WILL NEVER GO TO JAIL.


Then what gives you the right to say I am not a slave when I serve within the limits given to me by the man I serve???

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The only one that ends up harming others is YOU! If you continue to talk about your fantasy interpretation of what slave means.


I dont deal well with .. yeah.... you.

Your fear about me and the others on this board is that you cant command us to shut up and that is pissing you off.. which is rather funny to me. But there ya go.

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If a submissive come in here believe in what you have written, and she change her profile to the slave, and fill it up with vennila crap and she finds a Master without limits then she can thank you for a life in hell!


You obviously do not understand English.

You who didnt know the difference between a Dom and a Master until I explained it to you.

You who spouts about women not being able to say no, despite the men they serve telling them they can.

Who left you in charge of determining what is slavery and what isnt?

THATS what you arent getting here.

You flash a bunch of porno flick photos and insist they are slaves.. which is rather laughable because all those women were paid for their time. You have no proof of their lives outside of those movies, yet you hold them up as the example of being "true slaves".

Being a slave isnt all about getting her rocks off.. it isnt all about sex... or all about pain... or all about cum. Its also about serving when its hard, when she is sick, when she is tired, when she is grumpy, when she is mad, when she is hurt... because a slave DESIRES to serve, despite her limitations or the expectations of men on a message board who think its ALL about sex.


I understand at least the meaning of the English word I use, I do not say words that I do not understand!
In fact, I told you I did not feel like a Dominant!. and you did not learn me the difference between Dominant and Master, for you do not know what the difference is!

Actually there is a very clear line of what is slavery, and what is not slavery!
BDSM has always two sides a soft and a hard. BD is the soft, and SM is the harder, and the same goes with BDSM relationship. D/S is the soft and M/S is the harder.
D/S is the Dominant and Submissive, and is for those who do not want to go all the way. M/S is for Master and Slave and is for those who will go all the way, it is a very simple line.

I would have you to see how a life could come to look out if a Submissive was to listen to advice from you, and list herself as a slave, and make a vanilla list, and think of vanilla thing when in M / S is more important with a BDSM criteria, and rather unimportant with vanilla crap, since after a slave is a slave no farther can say no.

No, I did not say they were really slaves or not, but asked if you could tell the difference between who was a slave and sub.

What you describe is a submissive woman. A submissive woman can spend her entire life with serving her husband/Dominant, but that does not make her a slave. You can not mold a submissive woman the way you want her, she will leave the relationship, and she can because she only submissive!

A slave is forced to serve, and it's other things that drive a slave. a slave want to be forced to serve, forced to clean, forced to cook, forced not to say no, forced to be molded the way you want her, and a slave can not leave a relationship because she is a slave!

As I recall there has not been talk about sex, so it must be for your own expense!



Definition of definition
Statement of the exact meaning of a word, especially in a dictionary

Definition of word
A single distinct meaningful element of speech or writing, used with others (or sometimes alone) to form a sentence and typically shown with a space on either side when written or printed

Definition of dominant
Having power and influence over others:

Definition of master
A man who has people working for him, especially servants or slaves:

Definition of slavery
The practice or system of owning slaves

Definition of submissive
Ready to conform to the authority or will of others

Definition of slave
A person who is the legal property of another and is forced to obey them:





hrxxx -> RE: Online only? (7/2/2013 11:41:11 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

And walking a woman on a leash in and of itself doesnt make her a slave.

Can you own a woman, legally, walk her downtown on a leash, beat her in the town square, kill her if you so desire?

That wasnt a different set of situations.



If I walk with my dog, I can not just start to beat it out on the street, it is also an offense to beat a dog to death.
If I started to smash my car out in the public space, then the police would come also. So I can not see your point! Other than that it is meaningless
When you own a property, you have to treat it properly!


Definition of definition
Statement of the exact meaning of a word, especially in a dictionary:


Definition of property
A thing or things belonging to someone

Definition of meaningless
Having no meaning or significance:


Definition of properly
Correctly or satisfactorily




tazzygirl -> RE: Online only? (7/2/2013 5:26:21 PM)

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Actually there is a very clear line of what is slavery, and what is not slavery!
BDSM has always two sides a soft and a hard. BD is the soft, and SM is the harder, and the same goes with BDSM relationship. D/S is the soft and M/S is the harder.
D/S is the Dominant and Submissive, and is for those who do not want to go all the way. M/S is for Master and Slave and is for those who will go all the way, it is a very simple line.


Wrong.

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No, I did not say they were really slaves or not, but asked if you could tell the difference between who was a slave and sub.


From porno flicks? ROFL

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What you describe is a submissive woman. A submissive woman can spend her entire life with serving her husband/Dominant, but that does not make her a slave. You can not mold a submissive woman the way you want her, she will leave the relationship, and she can because she only submissive!


What I described is the determination of another man who doesnt master the way you insist all men should master a woman.

Its really cute how you keep telling other men the shape their relationships must take.

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A slave is forced to serve, and it's other things that drive a slave. a slave want to be forced to serve, forced to clean, forced to cook, forced not to say no, forced to be molded the way you want her, and a slave can not leave a relationship because she is a slave!


Wrong.

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Slavery is a system under which people are treated as property to be bought and sold, and are forced to work.[1] Slaves can be held against their will from the time of their capture, purchase or birth, and deprived of the right to leave, to refuse to work, or to demand compensation.


You are confusing the term slave in this sense with consensual slavery, or one who agrees to become a slave. As long as I dont report him, the man can do anything he wants to me. As long as the law doesnt find out, he is good as gold in what he decides to do.

You have been insisting you can force someone to do anything you want. Sorry, no, you cant. You can demand she do so, but if she decides not to do so, what are you going to do? Force her? Beat her into submission? (Assault and battery) Starve her until she does? Keep her chained up away from food, water and other people? (false imprisonment)

About the only thing you CAN do is tell her to leave. You cant force anyone to do anything.

"Oh, i want a slave to do exactly what I say, when I say, how I say, she cannot tell me no!"

Only if she agrees to that dynamic and that agreement doesnt change in her mind.

Im not forced to do anything, I do it out of affection and loyalty, respect and kindness, because I care deeply for him and he is a good man.

He commands, I obey. Its really that simple. That is consensual slavery.

He earned that devotion through his treatment of me. But, i bet if we take a poll and ask how many girls on this site are "forced" to do everything they do for their owners, you might be surprised at the results of such a belief.

If you have to "force" a woman to do the things you want done, you havent mastered her, you have bullied her.




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