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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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Here are some pictures so you can see if there is a difference between sub and slave.
slave or sub?

ROFL

I know pain sluts who are into most of what you posted. And they are not slaves. They just happen to enjoy pain and they negotiate the play.

I know subs who are absolute cum sluts... some who are piss whores... some who enjoy being "raped"... and not a single one are slaves.

Quit following a fantasy here.

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TNDommeK is right! A slave can not say no!

Wrong.

"Has the mail come yet, slut?" "No, Master"

"Did that hurt?" "No, Master"

An appropriate time to say no.

A smart owner never puts their slave into a position to HAVE to say no.

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BDSM criteria first and everything else is unimportant, so we are back where we started!
After 8 pages are my conclusions tion only that you live in a D /. relationship., and is the slave by tittel only

It would be wonderful if you had a typing slave who could help you with spelling. However, do not assume you know my situation, what my relationship is with other people, or how I am viewed by friends and those I know personally in the lifestyle.

But, frankly speaking, since you just belittled some people I happen to respect highly, and assumed you know more about me than the man I live with, allow me to express an opinion.

You are looking for a fantasy... I suggest you stick to the fantasy. You want a no limits slave who will allow you to do what you want, when you want, how you want. I suggest you figure out before you attempt those things that what YOU want is what SHE wants, instead of assuming she will meekly accept all your desires... else, you will be posting to the message boards from jail.

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If I asked her to dance and she said no, I would ask if she is hurt or what's wrong that she can't. If there wasn't a suitable enough answer and she was just saying "no" bc she didn't want to, then there is a problem. As a slave she should do as told, otherwise, what is the point of her service and my dominance over her?

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Yes in a way I am looking for a limitless slave because I HAVE LIMITS and seek ONLY girls who whose limits lies within my limits, so I can go to my limit without breaking her limit, SO NO I WILL NEVER GO TO JAIL.

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The only one that ends up harming others is YOU! If you continue to talk about your fantasy interpretation of what slave means.

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If a submissive come in here believe in what you have written, and she change her profile to the slave, and fill it up with vennila crap and she finds a Master without limits then she can thank you for a life in hell!

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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If I asked her to dance and she said no, I would ask if she is hurt or what's wrong that she can't. If there wasn't a suitable enough answer and she was just saying "no" bc she didn't want to, then there is a problem. As a slave she should do as told, otherwise, what is the point of her service and my dominance over her?

Of course she should without a good excuse. Not wanting too isnt a good excuse. I do lots of things I dont want to do, but since I am told, I do them.

You said you would ask if she was hurt. My jumping off a bridge would hurt me, so I would say "no" and explain that I couldnt because it would hurt me. I have that right, given by him. If he recinds that right, then I have to rethink my position with him.

Slavery in the lifestyle is consensual. I give consent to serve. Thats the only consent that is required. The moment I say "no" that is not justified in his eyes, he has the right to determine if my "no" means I am no longer in his service.

Simply saying "A slave does not have the right to say "no", isnt correct. She can say no at any time. Its how her owner takes that "no" that determines the outcome of the relationship.

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ORIGINAL: hrxxx

Since insanity is unlimited on this board, I try to explain it in a simple way

Yes in a way I am looking for a limitless slave because I HAVE LIMITS and seek ONLY girls who whose limits lies within my limits, so I can go to my limit without breaking her limit, SO NO I WILL NEVER GO TO JAIL.

The only one that ends up harming others is YOU! If you continue to talk about your fantasy interpretation of what slave means.

If a submissive come in here believe in what you have written, and she change her profile to the slave, and fill it up with vennila crap and she finds a Master without limits then she can thank you for a life in hell!

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ORIGINAL: bobsworld

As far as the reason why i spelled your name wrong is because the site admins don't tend to like when i make honest comments about people. so that's why i make the name close but not exact. That way it appeared as if i was talking to you and you responded, but i clearly did not write your name :) ultimately it worked.

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ORIGINAL: bobsworld

I have 2 accounts 1 I use at my friends and 1 I use at home. Also I never complained about new users. I was only stating MY opinions why i felt that person was having trouble finding a true slave. But i do thank you for your comments lizi

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ORIGINAL: bobsworld

I am fairly new to the site(3-4 weeks) and I have noticed the same, girls are not interested in RL. A lot of them are listed as slave but when you get to talk to them they don't take it serious. You want to try call them get to know them and they say no thanks. Also I think I have an answer to all this as to why the site is like this. I have noticed that the site has been going down hill even just the short time I been here, there has been less and less people signing up and its only the same people using the site at certain times. Yes you can see who is new on the site just click NEW USERS on the left hand side it shows you. I have been click that for a few days now and its the same people. Also there is a bunch of scams going around, Mainly the same person from(phillipines) but I wont mention names that way its safe to post here :) also I have his ip and they are using many different profiles (8 current ones I know of) so this could also be why as there could be much more bots / spam people then we relize here. So I think its lack of honest new users here to be honest.

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ORIGINAL: TieMeInKnottss

You may be allowed to walk down the street with a woman on a leash because it is HER decision to allow that. Yes, no one will stop you unless she screams HELP! Or STOP! That is the difference between traditional slavery (& sadly I believe that some countries' lack of women's rights would still permit it even if the woman was screaming) & BDSM slavery. She is your slave and will bend to your will but the DECISION to do so is still hers. Yes, we say a sub gives consent every time but, in reality...if a slave says "no" to sex with her master she can still charge him with rape if he ignores her..the difference is the mindset of the people involved. I don't say no to Him because He is important to me, I want to please him, I want his approval and, saying no, without a valid reason (& HOW I say no) would end our dynamic because it would break our agreement.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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Yes in a way I am looking for a limitless slave because I HAVE LIMITS and seek ONLY girls who whose limits lies within my limits, so I can go to my limit without breaking her limit, SO NO I WILL NEVER GO TO JAIL.

Then what gives you the right to say I am not a slave when I serve within the limits given to me by the man I serve???

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The only one that ends up harming others is YOU! If you continue to talk about your fantasy interpretation of what slave means.

I dont deal well with .. yeah.... you.

Your fear about me and the others on this board is that you cant command us to shut up and that is pissing you off.. which is rather funny to me. But there ya go.

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If a submissive come in here believe in what you have written, and she change her profile to the slave, and fill it up with vennila crap and she finds a Master without limits then she can thank you for a life in hell!

You obviously do not understand English.

You who didnt know the difference between a Dom and a Master until I explained it to you.

You who spouts about women not being able to say no, despite the men they serve telling them they can.

Who left you in charge of determining what is slavery and what isnt?

THATS what you arent getting here.

You flash a bunch of porno flick photos and insist they are slaves.. which is rather laughable because all those women were paid for their time. You have no proof of their lives outside of those movies, yet you hold them up as the example of being "true slaves".

Being a slave isnt all about getting her rocks off.. it isnt all about sex... or all about pain... or all about cum. Its also about serving when its hard, when she is sick, when she is tired, when she is grumpy, when she is mad, when she is hurt... because a slave DESIRES to serve, despite her limitations or the expectations of men on a message board who think its ALL about sex.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

And walking a woman on a leash in and of itself doesnt make her a slave.

Can you own a woman, legally, walk her downtown on a leash, beat her in the town square, kill her if you so desire?

That wasnt a different set of situations.

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Actually there is a very clear line of what is slavery, and what is not slavery!
BDSM has always two sides a soft and a hard. BD is the soft, and SM is the harder, and the same goes with BDSM relationship. D/S is the soft and M/S is the harder.
D/S is the Dominant and Submissive, and is for those who do not want to go all the way. M/S is for Master and Slave and is for those who will go all the way, it is a very simple line.

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No, I did not say they were really slaves or not, but asked if you could tell the difference between who was a slave and sub.

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What you describe is a submissive woman. A submissive woman can spend her entire life with serving her husband/Dominant, but that does not make her a slave. You can not mold a submissive woman the way you want her, she will leave the relationship, and she can because she only submissive!

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A slave is forced to serve, and it's other things that drive a slave. a slave want to be forced to serve, forced to clean, forced to cook, forced not to say no, forced to be molded the way you want her, and a slave can not leave a relationship because she is a slave!

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Slavery is a system under which people are treated as property to be bought and sold, and are forced to work.[1] Slaves can be held against their will from the time of their capture, purchase or birth, and deprived of the right to leave, to refuse to work, or to demand compensation.