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DomKen -> RE: The dumbest interpretation (7/6/2013 10:22:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
As to labeling a group as delusional, for someone who does not believe in any deity or other supernatural entity people who claim to have contact with such seem delusional. How else should we view them?

Ever consider that labeling a group as delusional is comparable to labeling a group of four legged animals as wildebeests? I.E. inaccurate.


No, If a group is deluded then the label delusional is correct.




Kirata -> RE: The dumbest interpretation (7/6/2013 11:45:12 PM)


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Issuing "positive statements" about things I don't know and can't possibly know (see above) is your schtick, not mine.

If you don't and can't possibly know what you believe I have to wonder what is wrong with you.

Well now that you're back to misrepresenting what I said, I see we've come full circle. So here's where we stand: If you want to continue telling people that I am a "passionate defender" of Christianity, I'll just keep exposing that as a lie. It's annoying, I admit, but I can manage it.

As for the dodge that it's just your opinion or belief, believing things for which there is no evidence is your standard attack on those who believe in God, so it's always a convenience when someone is willing to demonstrate their hypocrisy without me having to expend the effort.

K.




Kirata -> RE: The dumbest interpretation (7/7/2013 12:02:59 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MrBukani

Let's use a difficult word so you understand
That's your perogative as it is ours to make the shit up about you

The word is "prerogative," and nothing gives anybody the right to just make up shit about me or anything else.

But thanks for being candid.

K.






MrBukani -> RE: The dumbest interpretation (7/7/2013 1:50:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: MrBukani

Let's use a difficult word so you understand
That's your perogative as it is ours to make the shit up about you

The word is "prerogative," and nothing gives anybody the right to just make up shit about me or anything else.

But thanks for being candid.

K.




Oh yes it does humans do it all the time. It's called interpertation(is that spelled correct?[:D]). Anyway thanks for the correction.

My assumption seems to be very right. You just don't make a stand ever. You bob and weave and try to outsmart others, while your own opinion on the subject is an empty shell.
So people don't know where you stand.
Maybe that is your problem K. That you don't know where you stand and you only contemplate it on here to find your true self.

It's gonna be very hard to defend no stand my friend. Once somebody knows your shtick(that's jiddish right?), they will use it like a bat outa hell over and over again until you admit it.

For instance people have the right to make up endless shit about Jesus. And they are even defended in a court of law.
What do you believe Kirata?




DaddySatyr -> RE: The dumbest interpretation (7/7/2013 1:54:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MrBukani

Oh yes it does humans do it all the time. It's called interpertation¹ (is that spelled correct?[:D]). Anyway thanks for the correction.

My assumption seems to be very right. You just don't make a stand ever. You bob and weave and try to outsmart others, while your own opinion on the subject is an empty shell.
So people don't know where you stand.
Maybe that is your problem K. That you don't know where you stand and you only contemplate it on here to find your true self.

It's gonna be very hard to defend no stand my friend. Once somebody knows your shtick² (that's jiddish³ right?), they will use it like a bat outa hell over and over again until you admit it.




¹ interpretation
² schtick
³ Yiddish

Glad I could help.



Peace and comfort,



Michael




Kirata -> RE: The dumbest interpretation (7/7/2013 3:14:18 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MrBukani

You just don't make a stand ever...

When somebody starts using words like "ever" or "never" they've already lost. You just can't deal with what I say, so you're off on a fishing expedition trying to hook something you can get a handle on. Sorry, no bites today. Heh.

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ORIGINAL: MrBukani

It's gonna be very hard to defend no stand my friend.

I'm not your fucking friend, and I don't have to defend not asserting a belief about things I don't know and can't possibly know.

K.




MrBukani -> RE: The dumbest interpretation (7/7/2013 3:44:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MrBukani

You just don't make a stand ever...

When somebody starts using words like "ever" or "never" they've already lost. You just can't deal with what I say, so you're off on a fishing expedition trying to hook something you can get a handle on. Sorry, no bites today. Heh.

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ORIGINAL: MrBukani

It's gonna be very hard to defend no stand my friend.

I'm not your fucking friend, and I don't have to defend not asserting a belief about things I don't know and can't possibly know.

K.


Ooooh anger I like that.
[:D]
I wish you luck on your quest of not knowing.
We could make it a real science with a degree. The professor of no-knowledge.




Kirata -> RE: The dumbest interpretation (7/7/2013 3:56:55 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MrBukani

Ooooh anger I like that.

All trolls do. But I wasn't angry, I was insulted.

K.









DomKen -> RE: The dumbest interpretation (7/7/2013 4:57:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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Issuing "positive statements" about things I don't know and can't possibly know (see above) is your schtick, not mine.

If you don't and can't possibly know what you believe I have to wonder what is wrong with you.

Well now that you're back to misrepresenting what I said, I see we've come full circle. So here's where we stand: If you want to continue telling people that I am a "passionate defender" of Christianity, I'll just keep exposing that as a lie. It's annoying, I admit, but I can manage it.

As for the dodge that it's just your opinion or belief, believing things for which there is no evidence is your standard attack on those who believe in God, so it's always a convenience when someone is willing to demonstrate their hypocrisy without me having to expend the effort.

K.


You're just simply full of shit. And you must know it you keep editing my posts to actually remove the pertinent details.

Here is the actual post you cut up in a piss poor attempt to continue pretending to be butt hurt over being called out on your stupid little game of injecting snark into every science and religion thread while adamantly refusing to actually state your actual position.
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Issuing "positive statements" about things I don't know and can't possibly know (see above) is your schtick, not mine.


In response to a request that you actually make a positive statement about what you believe. If you don't and can't possibly know what you believe I have to wonder what is wrong with you.

And again, you could get me to stop accusing you of something that clearly annoys you greatly by simply stating in a clear declarative statement what your beliefs are, I dare you.

So without the context removed it is clear what I was responding to and there was no misrepresentation on my part but on yours.

I'll give you one more chance then I'll adapt the policy of simply reporting every off topic and trolling post you make to the mods which I'm loath to do but it seems likely the only reasonable way of having productive discussions on these threads.





chatterbox24 -> RE: The dumbest interpretation (7/7/2013 5:31:55 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24


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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
read Martin Luther's writings on Jews if you don't believe me.


chatterbox24, this is what he's talking about:

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ORIGINAL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jews_and_Their_Lies
On the Jews and Their Lies (German: Von den Jüden und iren Lügen; in modern spelling Von den Juden und ihren Lügen) is a 65,000-word antisemitic treatise written in 1543 by the German Reformation leader Martin Luther.

In the treatise, Luther describes Jews as a "base, whoring people, that is, no people of God, and their boast of lineage, circumcision, and law must be accounted as filth."[1] Luther wrote that they are "full of the devil's feces ... which they wallow in like swine,"[2] and the synagogue is an "incorrigible whore and an evil slut".[3]

In the first ten sections of the treatise, Luther expounds, at considerable length, upon his views concerning Jews and Judaism and how these compare against Christians and Christianity. Following this exposition, Section XI of the treatise advises Christians to carry out seven remedial actions. These are

for Jewish synagogues and schools to be burned to the ground, and the remnants buried out of sight;
for houses owned by Jews to be likewise razed, and the owners made to live in agricultural outbuildings;
for their religious writings to be taken away;
for rabbis to be forbidden to preach, and to be executed if they do;
for safe conduct on the roads to be abolished for Jews;
for usury to be prohibited, and for all silver and gold to be removed and "put aside for safekeeping"; and
for the Jewish population to be put to work as agricultural slave laborers.[4]

The prevailing scholarly view[5] since the Second World War is that the treatise exercised a major and persistent influence on Germany's attitude toward its Jewish citizens in the centuries between the Reformation and the Holocaust. Four hundred years after it was written, the Nazis displayed On the Jews and Their Lies during Nuremberg rallies, and the city of Nuremberg presented a first edition to Julius Streicher, editor of the Nazi newspaper Der Stürmer, the newspaper describing it as the most radically antisemitic tract ever published.[6]



This man was not a man of God. He was absorbed with his own power, and was in simple terms consumed by evil. Just as Hitler was.
Without going into a religious good Christian bad Christian debate, I will only say I believe in three entities, God, Jesus, and the holy spirit. Jesus himself was a jew, and his own people persecuted him. If you believe the bible, when he rose again, it was not only for his own people but all people in walks faiths and religions, to give forgiveness for our sins and lead us to eternal life through those teachings and messages of God. It is through love not hate that we are enlightened. Faith is not to be questioned, one is only to have it, because it is beyond human understanding. People of God have died horrible deaths or suffered persecution because of that simple belief, or being different, and not conforming. The world of hate, and misled people or cowards let this happen. Evil invades anywhere you let it, including churches or men who want to take God words rearrange them and make them vile rules they have made by misinterpretations to harm others. Its the heart of people that are seen.
IT is never promised for it to be an easy life, and as you can see it can be tragic, nor is perfection expected. God who some people call ( higher being) or other choice names want people to try to live as closely as you can to the moral codes. If you mess up, you are still loved though always hoping you will find your way back. (and he already knows whether you do or not because he knows all things)
This is how I believe far from science, and logical thinking. But Christians can like science too! We like a lot of things, including sometimes things we shouldn't do! Just human.

All my own view, but there are a few who believe it too.

If you are a Christian and are a Protestant your sect ultimately derives from Martin Luther who is widely viewed as a very holy man. His anti-Semitism was the standard of the day and encouraged by the Roman church as well.


Protestant, is a generic term, in todays society that simply means Not catholic. The sect I identify with is from Palestine, which existed before the reform of Martin Luther. Many died horrible deaths, just as the jews did.
Christ is always the head of the church, not the man on the pulpit and each church is considered a body within itself. We are taught to hate no one, and no one is ever lost. They simply have to utter Jesus name and believe in their hears and they are saved. A light goes on that has to be fed for it to grow. We do not believe that a person never introduced to his knowledge will parish, but do believe the ones who deny there is a God will.
On a personal note, I do not believe there is one right RELIGION, but identify with this one. I can easily go into any church or denomination, and still hear the word of God. There is good in almost all things, if you look for it, very few things are pure evil nor pure good.




Kirata -> RE: The dumbest interpretation (7/7/2013 5:51:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

there was no misrepresentation on my part... I'll give you one more chance

You'll give me one more chance my ass. I simply declined to issue a statement of belief about things I don't know and can't possibly know. You proceeded to misrepresent that statement as me saying in effect that I don't know what I believe, claiming on that basis that there must be something wrong with me. A few pages back you were pulling the same shit and speculating on whether I was schizophrenic. So by all means call the Mods if you like. Be my fucking guest.

K.






jlf1961 -> RE: The dumbest interpretation (7/7/2013 5:57:47 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

there was no misrepresentation on my part... I'll give you one more chance

You'll give me one more chance my ass. I simply declined to issue a statement of belief about things I don't know and can't possibly know. That's all. You then proceeded to misrepresent that statement as me saying in effect that I don't know what I believe, claiming on that basis that there must be something wrong with me. A few pages back you were pulling the same shit and speculating on whether I was schizophrenic. So by all means call the Mods if you like. Be my fucking guest.

K.




Could you do us a favor and teach that to Rush and Beck? For that matter the majority of liberal and conservative talking heads who make their money preaching about crap they know nothing about?




VideoAdminChi -> RE: The dumbest interpretation (7/7/2013 6:15:25 AM)

FR,

This thread is locked for review. Meanwhile, on other threads, please stick to the topic and refrain from making personal attacks and making other posters the topic.




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