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RE: Zimmerman III - Should the jury have a manslaughter... - 7/8/2013 6:20:44 PM   
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It hasnt been proven he took "multiple head injuries"

Photos prove he took multiple head injuries.


No, you need to read the post I replied too....

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The question will boil down to...would a man pinned to the ground taking multiple head injuries reasonably fear imminent death or great bodily injury.


Again, there is no proof he had multiple head injuries under that condition.... if there is, please point to it.

You fellas are assuming he got the bloody nose and the head wounds while T had him "pinned" to the ground.

Now, prove it.


Actually, tazzy, the burden of proof is on the prosecution, not the defense. Zimmerman doesn't have to prove it, only posit it as a possible situation to cause reasonable doubt. It's the prosecution's job to prove that his injuries did not occur under that condition.


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RE: Zimmerman III - Should the jury have a manslaughter... - 7/8/2013 6:21:16 PM   
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I didnt ask them to prove anything beyond their own assertion.

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RE: Zimmerman III - Should the jury have a manslaughter... - 7/8/2013 6:27:15 PM   
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PLEASE TAKE DOWN THIS THREAD. CAN'T WE FOCUS ON FETISHES. EVERYONE HAS ENOUGH REAL WORLD PROBLEMS. LET'S GET AWAY FROM IT FOR A WHILE.

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RE: Zimmerman III - Should the jury have a manslaughter... - 7/8/2013 6:28:33 PM   
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I agree with TizzyGirl

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RE: Zimmerman III - Should the jury have a manslaughter... - 7/8/2013 6:29:13 PM   
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I wonder whose blood some of our RW folks would be calling for if martin had killed Zim.

Let's see. Armed man gets out of a vehicle and follows unarmed person down a dark alley and the unarmed person (fearing for his life because the guy has a gun) manages to kill him with his hands.

Wanna bet they'd be howling for Martin's blood?



That would make a lot of sense if everyone on the right was saying zimmy was innocent and everyone on the left was saying he wasn't. But that isn't how things are working up so why even bring up that bullshit left vs right fight?



Sad to say, Boi, but for some people the left/right political paradigm is the only way they are able to view the world.


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RE: Zimmerman III - Should the jury have a manslaughter... - 7/8/2013 7:00:15 PM   
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Are you OK with the notion of a brown skinned man being wrongly convicted?



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I thought this was a fetish site. OMFG, can we please stop talking about this. It isn't up to any of us anyway. I am so tired of hearing about this. I hate the fighting and dissension it has caused. I hate the anger and negativity- the racism. I thought I was safe from the fighting over this on here but I guess am not. It really has a nation divided even on fetish sites.

Since we are on the topic. Yes, I hope he is convicted so the chances of me- a brown skin female getting wrongfully profiled and shot to death ( innocently ) don't happen or the chance of it lessens. Racism is real and alive. I don't want to die for being the shade of a "suspicious skin color"


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RE: Zimmerman III - Should the jury have a manslaughter... - 7/8/2013 7:14:14 PM   
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Racism is real and alive.

My kind of people are civilzed people, and I do not mind if they have tentacles or bug eyes.

I think that most of you USA Americans are racists, especially the ones oppose racism.

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RE: Zimmerman III - Should the jury have a manslaughter... - 7/8/2013 7:17:20 PM   
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Am not answering any questions. Go find a suitable partner for fetishes. This is why this site was created not to battle out public court cases. OMFG. GO live your life.

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RE: Zimmerman III - Should the jury have a manslaughter... - 7/8/2013 7:19:19 PM   
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If this is what this site is about am LEAVING IT I CAME HER FOE FETISHES NOT THIS BULLSHIT.

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RE: Zimmerman III - Should the jury have a manslaughter... - 7/8/2013 7:20:00 PM   
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Am not answering any questions. Go find a suitable partner for fetishes. This is why this site was created not to battle out public court cases. OMFG. GO live your life.

Novel thought if you don't like this thread don't come to it.

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RE: Zimmerman III - Should the jury have a manslaughter... - 7/8/2013 7:20:19 PM   
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Mina, we enjoy these little chats.... and it keeps them from spilling over into the other areas. There are many sections that a few of us enjoy besides this one. Besides, the rest wouldnt want us crawling out of the "basement" (politics and religion) and cluttering up their "floors" (other threads).



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RE: Zimmerman III - Should the jury have a manslaughter... - 7/8/2013 7:35:26 PM   
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If this is what this site is about am LEAVING IT I CAME HER FOE FETISHES NOT THIS BULLSHIT.








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RE: Zimmerman III - Should the jury have a manslaughter... - 7/8/2013 7:45:31 PM   
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I came for the bullshit.

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RE: Zimmerman III - Should the jury have a manslaughter... - 7/8/2013 8:06:53 PM   
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Incorrect on every count. This site (CollarChat)was not created for your online fantasies of finding a 'partner'. It was created to discuss all sort of things. Including the wave of racism that floods the internet at the notion that Zimmerman might actually get a fair trial.


The CollarMe personals website was created to act out Second Life fantasies about finding 'twooo partners'.

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Am not answering any questions. Go find a suitable partner for fetishes. This is why this site was created not to battle out public court cases. OMFG. GO live your life.



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RE: Zimmerman III - Should the jury have a manslaughter... - 7/8/2013 8:16:32 PM   
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PLEASE TAKE DOWN THIS THREAD. CAN'T WE FOCUS ON FETISHES. EVERYONE HAS ENOUGH REAL WORLD PROBLEMS. LET'S GET AWAY FROM IT FOR A WHILE.


If you don't like the subject there are a lot of other forums to chat in. This is called politics and religion because that is what is discussed here. If you want to discuss fetishes I suggest you start a thread in the Community Discussion area.



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RE: Zimmerman III - Should the jury have a manslaughter... - 7/8/2013 8:20:41 PM   
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If this is what this site is about am LEAVING IT I CAME HER FOE FETISHES NOT THIS BULLSHIT.








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RE: Zimmerman III - Should the jury have a manslaughter... - 7/8/2013 9:18:22 PM   
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Florida law is such that if you were in reasonable fear of imminent death or great bodily injury, that lethal force is justified, and therefore are not guilty of manslaughter.

Not exactly. The standard is would a reasonable man fear imminent death or great bodily harm in that circumstance. You could be a coward or a hot head or any number of other things that made the action reasonable in your mind but it still would not be legal.

If Zimmerman is convicted it will be because the jurors find shooting someone because you lost a fistfight unreasonable.

Not exactly? Well then, suppose you tell us exactly when, i.e. after suffering what types and how many bodily injuries, would a reasonable man/woman be entitled to fear imminent great bodily harm or death. Even reasonable men/women have different opinions about that, so it boils down to the specific reasonable man/woman in that circumstance.

If Zimmerman is convicted it will be because the jurors are afraid of causing race riots.

Here's the deal Jimbo:
I'm leglly walking through a public greenway. You decide you don't like me there. You park your car, get out and walk several hundred feet away to confront me.

I start stomping a mudhole in your ass and you pull a weapon.

Who is the aggressor?

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RE: Zimmerman III - Should the jury have a manslaughter... - 7/8/2013 9:20:22 PM   
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I'm leglly walking through a public greenway. You decide you don't like me there. You park your car, get out and walk several hundred feet away to confront me.

I start stomping a mudhole in your ass and you pull a weapon.

Who is the aggressor?

You are.

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RE: Zimmerman III - Should the jury have a manslaughter... - 7/8/2013 9:22:43 PM   
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Here's the deal Jimbo:
I'm leglly walking through a public greenway. You decide you don't like me there. You park your car, get out and walk several hundred feet away to confront me.

I start stomping a mudhole in your ass and you pull a weapon.

Who is the aggressor?


The first person to resort to violence.
Further ,to the extent the GF was coherent, it was Martin who initiated the verbal portion of the confrontation.

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RE: Zimmerman III - Should the jury have a manslaughter... - 7/8/2013 9:32:50 PM   
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YOU listen to the 911 call Zimmermann made to the police at the link YOU provided. At the point when Zimmerman tells the police that Trayvon is "Staring at me. Now coming to check me out" Zimmerman is INSIDE HIS PARKED TRUCK! It is not surprising indeed, most people would be suspicious about someone first staring at them and then coming to check them out when they are INSIDE A PARKED VEHICLE -- especially at night when it's raining. Zimmerman does indeed later say, "Shit, he's running" (so, obviously Martin was scared enough of Zimmerman that his first choice was to run away) just before he admits to following Martin and the 911 dispatcher says "We don't need you to do that" and he says "Okay" just before Martin turns South (at the "T") and runs out of Zimmerman's sight. Zimmerman then continues walking EAST, past the "T", and eventually gets to the end of the walkway, at which point he calls the police and tells them he's on his way back to his truck and he'll meet the police there. However, when he gets back to the "T" Martin comes out of the dark and confronts him.

Going EAST from the "T", it's almost as far to the end of the walkway as it is going South from the "T" to where Martin was living. There are only two possible ways that Martin could have met Zimmerman at the "T": 1) As soon as he turned South at the "T" and lost Zimmerman, Martin hid and waited for Zimmerman to come back, and; 2) After turning South at the "T" and running almost all the way home (400 feet +/-), he doubled-back intent on confronting Zimmerman.

Bottom line remains: Martin created the situation.

It almost looks like you're claiming that a 158" kid dragged a 250 pound dude out of his truck, about 400" across a yard, started opening up a can of whoopass and then the big dude finally remembered he had a gun and shot the skinny kid.

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