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RE: What the future holds for America - 7/7/2013 12:03:08 PM

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Condoms aren't nearly as indestructible as people make them out to be.

of course not.. but the more.. force & speed.. one uses, the more likely for that to happen..

You said force and speed like it was a bad thing.

You also neglected to mention condoms that are too tight.

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RE: What the future holds for America - 7/7/2013 12:14:55 PM

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Condoms aren't nearly as indestructible as people make them out to be.

of course not.. but the more.. force & speed.. one uses, the more likely for that to happen..

You said force and speed like it was a bad thing.
You also neglected to mention condoms that are too tight.

well.. anyone can see that you have a huge cock and should be wearing supersized condoms..

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RE: What the future holds for America - 7/7/2013 2:05:12 PM

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The usual, groups fighting groups for power.

People flock to America because of the freedom it allows, but then try to change the very power, that allowed them to come here in the first place.

Maybe they're learning the United States has far less freedom than they thought. There's no freedom from student loan debt since it's ineligible for bankruptcy. Graduates can lose their professional licenses over inability to pay student loans. The job market suffers because of health insurance being tied to employment. For profit health insurance companies often decide whether someone lives or dies. People can have everything they've worked for their entire lives taken away from them because of medical bills, even though they didn't choose to get sick. The United States Government is run by corporations, not the American people. Politicians vote the way special interests tell them to vote. That's why single-payer wouldn't pass even with Democrats in control. Foreign exchange students from countries like Belgium and Norway say they have more freedom in their countries than US citizens do. As long as the United States is for the corporations by the corporations, I don't see things getting better. How can you change anything in a country that's run by corporations?

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RE: What the future holds for America - 7/7/2013 2:49:56 PM

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So, tell me, how does a woman know the second she has sex that her birth control method failed? Or within the first 120 hours?

Condom broke, diaphragm moved, forgot to take pill?

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Second, a first trimester abortion costs between $350 and $550 if there are no complications, plan b costs between 10 and 70 dollars. Abortions get more expensive the further along the pregnancy.

Points up. 18 out of 100 women will get pregnant when her partner uses a condom. Should the other 82 take plan B just in case?

Okay there are cheaper alternatives to abortion, which pretty much makes all arguments concerning when life begins out the window since the egg is not viable if it does not implant in the uterus.

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If you take it within 72 hours after you've had unprotected sex, Plan B One-Step can reduce the risk of pregnancy by up to 89%. If you take Plan B One-Step within 24 hours, it is about 95% effective.

So what is wrong with pushing this option instead of abortion? I mean considering how it works, wouldnt it be better than a surgical procedure which runs the risk of complications?

As long as it stops an unwanted pregnancy, isnt it just as good?

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RE: What the future holds for America - 7/7/2013 3:34:33 PM

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So what is wrong with pushing this option instead of abortion? I mean considering how it works, wouldnt it be better than a surgical procedure which runs the risk of complications?

As long as it stops an unwanted pregnancy, isnt it just as good?

It's a lot more effective and cheaper but what do you do if the pills don't work or the diaphragm slips or you were passed out and that guy at the party did you and you have no memory of the act.
It's too damn late for plan b

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RE: What the future holds for America - 7/7/2013 3:49:02 PM

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Okay there are cheaper alternatives to abortion, which pretty much makes all arguments concerning when life begins out the window since the egg is not viable if it does not implant in the uterus.

Care to explain? Cheaper?

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So what is wrong with pushing this option instead of abortion? I mean considering how it works, wouldnt it be better than a surgical procedure which runs the risk of complications?

As long as it stops an unwanted pregnancy, isnt it just as good?

That option is discussed. Any idea how many pharmacists wont sell it based upon moral objections? One pharmacy in town and... oops... not selling it. Thats just one example.

Then there are those who arent told the condom broke, who may not realize the diaphragm didnt seal correctly, the pill wasnt effective... then what?

And all these methods are against those who insist that life begins at fertilization. Against those who believe that sex for be just for procreation. Against those that believe that "god" gave you that baby, you need to have it.

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RE: What the future holds for America - 7/7/2013 3:59:00 PM

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There is a lot of what if's in that hill, and yes all of them are possible.

My point is that why should abortion be the start and end of the damn debate? As I have stated, I do not believe the government has the right to legislate women's reproductive health, and that is a far cry from saying I condone abortion.

It is a woman's right to choose, however common sense kind of means that you do what you can to prevent it from reaching that point.

By the same token, it is just common sense to have controls over who can and cannot buy guns.

And the next pro choice fanatic tells me that Constitution has grown to include the right to abortion but still means that the "arms" mentioned in the 2nd are flintlock muskets...

Or that all Muslims are terrorists and all Catholic priests are pedophiles or all rednecks are in the kkk or any of the other stupid absolute statements that have popped up on every news line, political forum or conspiracist web page.

You know what all those absolute statements actually mean, the 2/3's of the human race are terminally stupid, which is why the majority of humans are doing everything necessary to turn this planet into one that only extremophile lifeforms can live on,

Like I said in an earlier post, I have reached a point where I consider the human race a failed experiment and whoever or whatever created the universe needs to cull the species and let natural selection take over again.

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RE: What the future holds for America - 7/7/2013 10:01:56 PM

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Option 3) Some despot in some collapsing regime decides to start nuking people for making his life a living hell by setting up sanctions for human rights violations, sponsoring terrorism or just because he hasnt gotten laid in a month and he is going to nuke the planet.

And where the fuck did they get the nukes ? And who put them in power ? Who helped them until they did something wrong, as in act in the best interest of their couintry instead of the occidental oil companies ?

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RE: What the future holds for America - 7/7/2013 10:16:24 PM

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Well, now that I have read the thread and see it has gone into the abortion debate, I will do a hate test by giving my opinion.

Abortion is murder plain and simple. If you are willing to kill your own kid, barring deformities, you should not have kids.

As such I thnk we should have abortomats, kinda like a car wash. Strap down to the conveyor belt and just do it, come out the other end unpregnant. And tubal ligation ? Put it up there as an option like the hot wax. I shit you not. And anyone who doesn't pay, the govenrment pays but they automatically get the hot wax for free as well.

Oh, and if this scares the welfare Mothers into having another one - NO INCREASE IN BENEFITS if the kid was concieved while the Mother is on public assistance. I can understand being down on your luck, but things have gotten out of hand.

Do something like this or you'll be sorry.

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T

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RE: What the future holds for America - 7/7/2013 10:26:29 PM

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Well, now that I have read the thread and see it has gone into the abortion debate, I will do a hate test by giving my opinion.

Abortion is murder plain and simple. If you are willing to kill your own kid, barring deformities, you should not have kids.

As such I thnk we should have abortomats, kinda like a car wash. Strap down to the conveyor belt and just do it, come out the other end unpregnant. And tubal ligation ? Put it up there as an option like the hot wax. I shit you not. And anyone who doesn't pay, the govenrment pays but they automatically get the hot wax for free as well.

Oh, and if this scares the welfare Mothers into having another one - NO INCREASE IN BENEFITS if the kid was concieved while the Mother is on public assistance. I can understand being down on your luck, but things have gotten out of hand.

Do something like this or you'll be sorry.

Hate me.

T

Does the impregnating male get the "free hot wax" too?

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RE: What the future holds for America - 7/7/2013 10:46:41 PM

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They all seem to think we get pregnant by osmosis.

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RE: What the future holds for America - 7/7/2013 10:55:59 PM

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To get back to my original point, when you look at how polarized American society is on the issues, we are going to end up as a religious theocracy or a liberal sociaty with its own problems, including taxes, excessive spending and social programs that are draining resources.

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RE: What the future holds for America - 7/7/2013 11:03:48 PM

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Both will create those problems. You have a solution?

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RE: What the future holds for America - 7/7/2013 11:09:11 PM

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T, simple solution. You dont like abortions, then dont fuck. See how easy that was?

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RE: What the future holds for America - 7/7/2013 11:13:57 PM

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T, simple solution. You dont like abortions, then dont fuck. See how easy that was?

simple solution. You dont want babies, then dont fuck. See how easy that was?

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RE: What the future holds for America - 7/7/2013 11:15:08 PM

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Both will create those problems. You have a solution?

Yeah, get back to the days of bipartisan agreements, but since that is unlikely, I kinda lean toward a post apocalyptic world civilization.

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RE: What the future holds for America - 7/7/2013 11:22:19 PM

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T, simple solution. You dont like abortions, then dont fuck. See how easy that was?

simple solution. You dont want babies, then dont fuck. See how easy that was?

Im past that stage.

Beyond that, most women dont fuck.. which is why most men are grumpy.

In all seriousness, humans arent going to stop fucking. I see most women on these boards either not voicing their opinion on abortion, or saying they either agree or disagree.

If anyone disagrees with abortion, they simply should not fuck.

I have no problem with that. Do you?

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RE: What the future holds for America - 7/7/2013 11:23:39 PM

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Both will create those problems. You have a solution?

Yeah, get back to the days of bipartisan agreements, but since that is unlikely, I kinda lean toward a post apocalyptic world civilization.

Considering many believe that time is the Rapture, then its sorta safe to assume the "liberal heathens" will take over, no?

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RE: What the future holds for America - 7/8/2013 2:18:30 AM

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Hey wait a minute...I am. I am an ultra moderate, right wing, revolutionary pacifist. Like the elitist power structure of this country...somebody else can do the fighting and dying...for my goals and benefit. Oh...and huge profits.

To respect the OP. The future of America, I have touched on it. America is on its slow march to complete capitalist fascism.

Let's take Obamacare as the latest rendition. It is NOT health care reform as we define real reform. It is the forcing of those not providing a profit in their need for health care...to pay one, or be fined for not doing so. It is forcing, yes forcing those that didn't, to pay for their care somehow.

Let's dissect this. Real health care reform would have been a single payer (govt.) health insurance for all. Everybody pays a premium to the govt....everybody gets health care. No, that doesn't sit well with the profiteers because we all know, there couldn't be the profits we have now. Stick with me here.

Let's gain a little perspective with a perfect example. Starting with FDR's first act on banking...he closed them. The 'people' acting wisely were making a run on the entire banking system. Imagine if you will, lenders could not get their money from the borrowers. by force of govt. (not surprising, FDR being from a banking family, uncle Freddie being on the off-shore incognito group that schemed on and composed the charter of the federal reserve only about 20 years prior)

The banking act of 1933 was real banking reform. In whose interest was this reform ? Need I tell you ? It created that single-payer (govt.) insurance for who...the bankers. Now the elitists had their national insurance entitlement.

That's true capitalist fascism and removed forever the idea that America was a free market.

BTW it has been about 90 years of unmitigated lies and propaganda mostly from the right, that the New Deal was some socialist act of creating a welfare state...for the people. They are right, it did create a welfare state but for...the profiteers, a capitalist/corporate welfare state.

There is a book out there yet to be written on this subject.

But that's your future, America.

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RE: What the future holds for America - 7/8/2013 2:36:17 AM

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Does the impregnating male get the "free hot wax" too?

If he raped her he gets it all over his body.

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