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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/21/2013 9:02:51 AM   
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I think this could all be solved if we all got angry about every fucking murder that happens.

True story My aunt was beaten to death by 2 teens, we were so "glad" that one was white and one was black, so race would not be called in to it.

True story 2 A friends son was shot while riding his bike to his moms house. We were "glad" when it turned out to be a white kid for the same reasons.

So, does this prove "we" are not colorblind or that we are realists?

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/21/2013 9:03:32 AM   
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/antoniowest.asp

I trust you've sent that link directly to Obama, Holder, NAACP, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, CNBC, FOX, MSNBC, PBS, NYT, WaPo, ACLU...

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/21/2013 9:08:13 AM   
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Nope... just to the only idiot who posted it here... might want to check out the update.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/21/2013 9:08:51 AM   
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So what I see when I look at Zimmerman is a physically pathetic man engaging in activities to try and salvage his self esteem. That's what the MMA and his vigilantism are all about. The problem with this lard rangers delusions of physical adequacy is that they make him dangerous to himself and others. The guy is unqualified to steal candy from a baby so when he picks that fight he ends up having to shoot his way out.

He's exactly the sort of fat farmer that I think has no business owning a gun. For the people who are defending this jelly donut, I have a question, are you empathising with him? Is this really all about your waist size and poor self image?

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/21/2013 9:09:35 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RacerJim

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/antoniowest.asp



I trust you've sent that link directly to Obama, Holder, NAACP, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, CNBC, FOX, MSNBC, PBS, NYT, WaPo, ACLU...



Unless I'm missing something, the only thing that Snopes disproves there is that the grand jury prevented the DA from seeking the Death Penalty.

Unfortunately, there are people whose only contribution to our society is to keep the fighting alive (I'm talking to those pieces of human excrement, Sharpton, Maddux, Jackson, et al.).



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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/21/2013 9:11:10 AM   
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Interesting RacerJim how you do the tit for tat thing. Not on are you blind but you are also clueless. If you are not African American how can you even began to relate to who EVERYONE is coming together about the race issue. So you can continue to point fingers but rather then doing that get involved or stop whining.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/21/2013 9:50:36 AM   
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So what I see when I look at Zimmerman is a physically pathetic man engaging in activities to try and salvage his self esteem. That's what the MMA and his vigilantism are all about. The problem with this lard rangers delusions of physical adequacy is that they make him dangerous to himself and others. The guy is unqualified to steal candy from a baby so when he picks that fight he ends up having to shoot his way out.

He's exactly the sort of fat farmer that I think has no business owning a gun. For the people who are defending this jelly donut, I have a question, are you empathising with him? Is this really all about your waist size and poor self image?


Everything that you posted is irrelevant.

I am not defending him. I am defending the judicial process that acquitted him due to insufficient evidence.

He and Martin both made mistakes. Martin is dead and Zimmerman faced a real chance of losing his freedom. There are no winners.

That said, the evidence wasn't there.

Are you suggesting that only the physically fit should qualify to own a gun?

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/21/2013 10:31:57 AM   
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Because, as has been pointed out to you repeatedly, it is a bald faced lie to claim that Trayvon Martin, of Miami, was 'the neighbor' of George Zimmerman of Orlando.

And yet you keep on posting the lie. Is there any other reason for that repetition, other than wanting a brown skinned man lynched? Because your constant spew of racist invective certainly supports that deduction.


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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

Who the fuck cares about Rachel Jeantel? It's a waste of time, and irrelevant.

If George Zimmerman wasn't motivated by his own internalized racism, **WHY DIDN'T HE JUST ROLL DOWN HIS WINDOW AND OFFER HIS NEIGHBOR A RIDE HOME OUT OF THE RAIN?**

That's it, people. The beginning and the end of the discussion. Wouldn't YOU offer YOUR NEIGHBOR a ride home out of the rain?



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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/21/2013 10:32:26 AM   
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That's what the MMA and his vigilantism are all about.


Huh?

what law(s) was he trying to enforce?

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/21/2013 10:33:29 AM   
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And yet another in the pile of lies. As has already been proven, that charge only applies to parent, guardians, and caregivers.


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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

Isn't it abandoning the "rule of law" to 'game' the Jury Instructions to disallow the charge Zimmerman was actually guilty of, culpable negligence leading to manslaughter?

The Jury Instructions specified manslaughter by act, which they couldn't meet. I call this the "Amadou Diallo Move". Everything looks honest, but there's no way the jury can return a guilty verdict. Sure you end up with Jurors complaining about it occasionally, but no one really listens.

Face it, no-one gives a shit about another dead N*gger, so the State of Florida -- when dragged into court -- put on a good show, and got the result everyone expected.

Thing is, in New York, you got to be a cop to get this kind of softball prosecution. Florida. America's Wang.





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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/21/2013 10:36:55 AM   
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No, the question is , why do you wait until 113 pages in, to drag out one of the oldest lies in the whole narrative and demand that other people pretend it is true? Zimmerman was in better shape than the majority of the population *that night*.


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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

So what I see when I look at Zimmerman is a physically pathetic man engaging in activities to try and salvage his self esteem. That's what the MMA and his vigilantism are all about. The problem with this lard rangers delusions of physical adequacy is that they make him dangerous to himself and others. The guy is unqualified to steal candy from a baby so when he picks that fight he ends up having to shoot his way out.

He's exactly the sort of fat farmer that I think has no business owning a gun. For the people who are defending this jelly donut, I have a question, are you empathising with him? Is this really all about your waist size and poor self image?



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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/21/2013 10:39:04 AM   
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All I'm hearing is you whining that 'Those f'ing Hispanics always get away' Why don't you take all of this to the authorities?


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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

In my book, "equal protection of the law" and "due process" doesn't mean that the Prosecution and Defense can work together to construct jury instructions specifically limited to return only not-guilty verdicts.

Again, in this case the jury instructions here provided for Murder 2, and Manslaughter BY ACT, specifically omitting the slam-dunk Manslaughter by negligence included lesser offense.

That's not an accident. And if I'm surprised, it's that a no-body could get the State to do that for him.



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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/21/2013 12:06:15 PM   
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True story My aunt was beaten to death by 2 teens, we were so "glad" that one was white and one was black, so race would not be called in to it.


You have got to be kidding me. You are so brainwashed that the BRIGHT SIDE of one of your family member dying was that a White criminal was involved ? You are GLAD ? Why, so the killing was politically correct ?

Beam me up Scotty.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/21/2013 12:40:47 PM   
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The ship has sailed on Zimmerman and any other mental stance is as vigilantism. Do I want to change these laws? Oh hell yeah. Gunning someone down because you think they might be a threat is not OK.


Fortunately, there are no laws that let you "gun someone down just because you think they might be a threat."
That people are still claiming it does, means it's time to link this again. People really need to watch it; it cuts through the BS and explains why the SYG laws are actually quite fair, just, and reasonable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irnD34P2l1w

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/21/2013 1:14:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Nope... just to the only idiot who posted it here... might want to check out the update.

Nope...only an idiot would use Snopes as a reference.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/21/2013 1:22:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: GotSteel

So what I see when I look at Zimmerman is a physically pathetic man engaging in activities to try and salvage his self esteem. That's what the MMA and his vigilantism are all about. The problem with this lard rangers delusions of physical adequacy is that they make him dangerous to himself and others. The guy is unqualified to steal candy from a baby so when he picks that fight he ends up having to shoot his way out.

He's exactly the sort of fat farmer that I think has no business owning a gun. For the people who are defending this jelly donut, I have a question, are you empathising with him? Is this really all about your waist size and poor self image?

Too bad for you and your ilk that the local Sheriff and D.A. AND 6 jurors determined that punk/thug gangsta wannabe Martin picked a fight with cop wannabe Zimmerman and got himself killed because of it.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/21/2013 1:24:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

quote:

ORIGINAL: RacerJim

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/antoniowest.asp



I trust you've sent that link directly to Obama, Holder, NAACP, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, CNBC, FOX, MSNBC, PBS, NYT, WaPo, ACLU...



Unless I'm missing something, the only thing that Snopes disproves there is that the grand jury prevented the DA from seeking the Death Penalty.

Unfortunately, there are people whose only contribution to our society is to keep the fighting alive (I'm talking to those pieces of human excrement, Sharpton, Maddux, Jackson, et al.).



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Exactly.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/21/2013 1:30:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

quote:

True story My aunt was beaten to death by 2 teens, we were so "glad" that one was white and one was black, so race would not be called in to it.


You have got to be kidding me. You are so brainwashed that the BRIGHT SIDE of one of your family member dying was that a White criminal was involved ? You are GLAD ? Why, so the killing was politically correct ?

Beam me up Scotty.

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T, til ya been there and dealt with the press and the courts, don't judge.

And, there was not bright side, none at all.

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On September 3, 1998, Armstrong and an accomplice, Tony Elam, skipped school and forced their way into the home of Blanche Atwood, whose grandson was a drug dealer.   They beat Atwood to death and stole money, drugs and a cellular telephone from the house.   Then, they changed out of their bloody clothes and used the cell phone and some of the money from the robbery to purchase tattoos and drugs.   Elam later bragged about killing an elderly lady to get money for his tattoos.   Armstrong also admitted to friends his participation in stealing from Atwood;  he denied beating her, however.

The police arrested Elam and Armstrong, and Elam pleaded guilty to felony murder and armed robbery and agreed to testify against Armstrong.   At trial, Elam testified that Armstrong had beaten Atwood to death and that Armstrong had a hammer, which he abandoned at the crime scene.   The medical examiner testified that Atwood had been struck with a blunt, hard object.




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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/21/2013 1:51:24 PM   
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The Constitution Second Amendment makes it a right for Americans to bear arms and inherent in this is the right to use arms in your defense.

The stand your ground laws are there to prevent over-zealous prosecutors from getting around that protection by arguing that you must back down or run rather than defend yourself, an easy thing to do sometimes after the fact and some juries might be emotionally persuaded.

The laws really came about because home invaders shot by the homeowner and then arrested were suing homeowners on the grounds that they should have run out the back and called the law rather than "stand their ground" and shoot the invader and they were winning against those homeowners who did not have enough money to hire a good lawyer to properly defend them in civil suits.

The bottom line is the "stand your ground" law is supported by the Second Amendment and one can "review" the local Florida law all you want and even get it removed but it makes no difference because we have the Constitutional right to stand our ground and have done so since the Declaration of Independence. Thanks also to Obama threatening to outlaw certain weapons and make it harder to obtain them, we are even more armed and are now thanks to Trayvon no longer afraid to use our Second Amendment Right even if the attacker is a 17 year old.

There are reasons things happen and we are more secure since the successfully repulsed attack on George Zimmerman was proven to be justified under the local and Constitutional law. All Americans owe a debt of gratitude to Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and HLN's Nancy Grace for bringing nation wide attention to Mr. Zimmerman's innocence (by trying to deprive him of his liberty on nationwide TV) and the need to "stand our ground".

Well done.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/21/2013 2:02:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Ladytisha

Interesting RacerJim how you do the tit for tat thing. Not on are you blind but you are also clueless. If you are not African American how can you even began to relate to who EVERYONE is coming together about the race issue. So you can continue to point fingers but rather then doing that get involved or stop whining.

You don't like my tit for tat thing? Awe shucks. Me blind and also clueless? Typical of someone who can't refute the message so they disparage the character of the messenger. If you are American how can you even begin to condone how President Obama, Attorney General Holder, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, the NAACP, the Congressional Black Caucus and the mainstream-media have racially divided America deeper than it has been since before the Civil Rights Act. Fact/truth: It's the "JUSTICE FOR TRAYVON" people who need to stop whining -- they got JUSTICE when Zimmerman was arrested and tried by a jury of his peers per the justice system -- they simply refuse to accept the outcome. It's not justice they want but, rather, it's revenge.

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