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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 3/29/2014 4:48:12 AM   
Lucylastic


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You dont see it, but its reeking of shit and lies to me
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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 3/29/2014 4:48:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

The song is about being happy a real,( not fantasy witch) black kid is dead.i notice that the usual suspects havent said a word to sd,
but pouncing all over polite cos he called it racist.

Excuse me, but the song was about being happy a thug is dead. You may have a different opinion of Trayvon, and you'd be perfectly within your rights to take SD to task for calling him a thug. But this whole "racist" theme is coming from somewhere other than the song.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 3/29/2014 4:55:58 AM   
Raiikun


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That's another thing that i'm seeing increase...people calling valid opinions that differ from there own "lies". Usually with nothing to support why.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 3/29/2014 5:00:51 AM   
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Some people are so phobic they see racist shit in just about anything. Wich leads to the fact you cant be critical anymore about different cultures. Cause any criticism towards 'culture' is considered racism by self proclaimed liberals.

That is the core of the problem.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 3/29/2014 5:13:20 AM   
Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

The song is about being happy a real,( not fantasy witch) black kid is dead.i notice that the usual suspects havent said a word to sd,
but pouncing all over polite cos he called it racist.

Excuse me, but the song was about being happy a thug is dead. You may have a different opinion of Trayvon, and you'd be perfectly within your rights to take SD to task for calling him a thug. But this whole "racist" theme is coming from somewhere other than the song.

K.



Im perfectly within my rights to take to task anyone i wish.
Make all the assertions you need to.
I have and will see it as excusing racism.
Be happy, its just my opinion


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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 3/29/2014 5:16:03 AM   
Raiikun


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I'm still waiting for anyone to show where this "racism" is that's being excused.

It's just not there.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 3/29/2014 5:25:27 AM   
Lucylastic


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Lol you keep waiting , you arent capable of it, sadly i dont think you can wrap your head around it, or ever will
Maybe if you tried.... but ...nah a lost cause is a lost cause.
You cant see the wood for the trees.


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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 3/29/2014 5:32:58 AM   
Raiikun


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I'm increasingly convinced that the only "evidence" of racism in cases like this exists in the prejudices of the people making the claims of racist.

Someone posts a song in poor taste, and it HAS to be because it's due to racism. It just has to be!

I really am starting to think some of these claims of racism tell more about the accuser's prejudice, which is why only they can see it.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 3/29/2014 5:46:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

Actually to me it shows he is confused on what part you see as racist. So instead of trying to imply that he is also racist, why can't you simply explain which parts you are referring to.


I said the song is racist, how fucking confused do you need to be...... I will spell it out for those that fail to comprehend.

T-h-e------S-o-n-g------I-s-----R-a-c-i-s-t

I hope this helps.



So in other words you can't point out anything racist about it because there isn't anything there to point out. And instead of admitting you are wrong you are just going to keep screaming it's racist. That's got to be some of the lamest shit I have read on here in a long time.



If you want lame shit, try your own posts. If the song was homophobic you would be saying much the same as I am. You and I both know that, so cut the crap.



Yes if it was homophobic I would be saying the same thing. But if it wasn't homophobic and it just happened to be sung about a gay person, I wouldn't lie and try to pretend it was.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 3/29/2014 5:52:24 AM   
Politesub53


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MrBukani

Some people are so phobic they see racist shit in just about anything. Wich leads to the fact you cant be critical anymore about different cultures. Cause any criticism towards 'culture' is considered racism by self proclaimed liberals.

That is the core of the problem.


Lmfao.......Phobic..... for hating racism.......how fucking stupid is that.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 3/29/2014 5:53:30 AM   
thishereboi


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

And this is why the US righties will always have an issue.
The song is about being happy a real,( not fantasy witch) black kid is dead.i notice that the usual suspects havent said a word to sd,
but pouncing all over polite cos he called it racist.
Some ugly fucking minds .
Really fucking ugly
But carry on arguing semantics.
This bullshit you are denying, is far Uglier than anything trayvon ever did or might have done


You make a very good point there. Perhaps if PS hadn't lied and claimed it was racist, more people would have focused on the song itself. They might have even agreed with him that it was a shitty thing to post. But he didn't and now people are calling him on his shit. Funny how that works.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 3/29/2014 5:59:04 AM   
Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: Raiikun

I'm increasingly convinced that the only "evidence" of racism in cases like this exists in the prejudices of the people making the claims of racist.

Someone posts a song in poor taste, and it HAS to be because it's due to racism. It just has to be!

I really am starting to think some of these claims of racism tell more about the accuser's prejudice, which is why only they can see it.


Think what you will, the song is racist bollocks. Just for the record though, the following post (not from collarme) doesnt mention black either, so I guess this isnt racist.

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I'm going to trademark:

"First Trayvon. Who's Next"
"Ding Dong Trayvon's Dead"
"Do A Zimmerman On You"
"Playing Cops and Trayvon"
"Dont Be A Trayvon...Stay In School"
"Neighborhood Watch Communities: Protecting you from the Trayvon's of the world"
"The Only Good Trayvon is a Dead Trayvon"


Answers on a white sheet please.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 3/29/2014 6:02:14 AM   
Politesub53


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quote:

ORIGINAL: thishereboi


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

And this is why the US righties will always have an issue.
The song is about being happy a real,( not fantasy witch) black kid is dead.i notice that the usual suspects havent said a word to sd,
but pouncing all over polite cos he called it racist.
Some ugly fucking minds .
Really fucking ugly
But carry on arguing semantics.
This bullshit you are denying, is far Uglier than anything trayvon ever did or might have done


You make a very good point there. Perhaps if PS hadn't lied and claimed it was racist, more people would have focused on the song itself. They might have even agreed with him that it was a shitty thing to post. But he didn't and now people are calling him on his shit. Funny how that works.


Apologists for racism are calling me on my shit, I can deal with that.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 3/29/2014 6:06:56 AM   
Raiikun


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I'd have to know about the person who wrote that, it's very possible he's racist. But it's not evident in the song itself.

In any case, I find that one more distasteful than the first.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 3/29/2014 6:09:20 AM   
Raiikun


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Apologists for racism are calling me on my shit, I can deal with that.



False. That racism you're claiming only exists in your own prejudice.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 3/29/2014 6:24:38 AM   
Raiikun


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ORIGINAL: Raiikun

I'd have to know about the person who wrote that, it's very possible he's racist. But it's not evident in the song itself.



And quoting myself to elaborate here as to why...

Imagine you hear someone yelling at someone to "Fuck off". Is that person being racist?

Possibly, possibly not. It could be someone who got cut in line when he was having a bad day. It could be some racist ass yelling at a black man who sat next to him. But whether it was from a racist intent is not evidence in the words itself.

"The Only Good Trayvon is a Dead Trayvon" could be written by someone racist, using Trayvon as a representation of those he hates. It could be someone who was victimized by teen thugs of any color. Either way, it's an extremely distasteful and abhorrent sentiment. But it's not evidenced in the words itself that it's racist. Unless you have information about the writer separate from what he's written here, you're just assuming he's racist.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 3/29/2014 6:29:54 AM   
Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: Raiikun


quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Apologists for racism are calling me on my shit, I can deal with that.



False. That racism you're claiming only exists in your own prejudice.


Bollocks.......Are you really stupid enough to suggest I am prejudist against racists ?


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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 3/29/2014 6:35:22 AM   
Raiikun


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Nope, I didn't suggest that at all. You are calling people "apologists for racism" who are every bit as much against racism as you. But making assumptions that something has to be racist, when there are other equally viable possibilities...that's using preconceived opinion to form your belief instead of the evidence, which is prejudice.


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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 3/29/2014 6:37:55 AM   
Politesub53


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Raiikun

I'd have to know about the person who wrote that, it's very possible he's racist. But it's not evident in the song itself.

In any case, I find that one more distasteful than the first.


Fuck me, you almost got something right..... since my quote in post 3212 came from Stormfronts website its VERY possible the poster may have been racist.

Are you seeing a theme here at all ?

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 3/29/2014 6:39:31 AM   
Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: Raiikun

Nope, I didn't suggest that at all. You are calling people "apologists for racism" who are every bit as much against racism as you. But making assumptions that something has to be racist, when there are other equally viable possibilities...that's using preconceived opinion to form your belief instead of the evidence, which is prejudice.





"False. That racism you're claiming only exists in your own prejudice." << Your words, go figure. I`ve already got it.

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