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Edwynn -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/13/2013 11:49:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: Edwynn No, but you did say previously that "it cuts both ways," as implication being that the person trying to evade what he reasonably perceives as criminal aggression has 50% responsibility for whatever the outcome. I think both had options, both made choices based on misperceptions of the other's intent, and a tragic result ensued. K. No argument on the last point, but it is inarguable that Zimmerman had the greater margin of options that would have avoided the tragedy, and Martin's 'poor choices,' if we even consider one's various options when under duress of aggressive action by another even deserving 'judgement' to begin with, were in any event a response to another person's poor choice in instigating the whole affair. This is not a "50/50" proposition here. Plain and simple: no instigation, no pursuit - no tragedy.

DomKen -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/13/2013 11:50:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: Edwynn Right. Nothing was due to actions or choices of the aggressor, none at all. Martin "had options," but Zimmerman, having been instructed not to pursue, but doing so anyway, had no options, then. not directed told he didn't have to which he responded ok then stated he had lost track of Martin. So if Zimmerman was not hunting the "suspect" why in the 4 minutes between that statement and the beginning of the physical conflict did Zimmerman not return to his vehicle? Walking around slowly in the rain was enough for him to be suspicious of Martin so why was he behaving in the same manner?

Arturas -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/13/2013 11:50:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas My friend The Most Reverend Al Sharpton. Where does he fit in on this and where was he that night? BTW, is he a TV preacher who does news or is he a news person who does TV preaching like Nancy Grace? Does he pass the plate and does that money pay for his trips down to Florida so that he can let us crackers know that "we" love our children too. Thank you, Al. I did not realize that. It is good you shouted that to "us" on prime time TV. lol.... you really want to go this route in a thread thats unmoderated? It is just as reverend.

Arturas -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/13/2013 11:53:33 AM)
What oil do you use on your whip? Zimmerman. Not baby oil I am sure. How long do you oil it, four minutes? That is a long time.

DomKen -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/13/2013 11:55:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas How do you play this game, do you just pick a side and then support it even when it gets crazy to do so? So when it becomes clear Martin was not a 12 year old being followed but a near man who assaulted the neighborhood watch guy that night and is killed in self defense you still pretend it is illegal to follow people and that someone must follow a 911 operator's instruction and if a neighborhood watch guy gets out of his vehicle and follows a person in the neighborhood it is him that is committing some crime? And so even if this makes no sense the goal is to spend hours on here pretending you have a life somewhere else but just want to spend twelve hours a day here convincing everyone that right is wrong and they are wrong and therefore right but it does not matter because he did not stay in his truck and therefore should serve thirty years and you win? There is no evidence at all that Martin started the fight. If Zimmerman had actually been NW, he wasn't, then he would have been trained to never follow or confront and would have been trained to not patrol his neighborhood armed. The facts are Zimmerman has provably lied about every single detail of the encounter that can be verified. It is this basic, a fistfight occurred. Zimmerman shot Martin after determining that he was some sort of criminal based solely on the fact he was not rushing to get where he was going. No evidence supports self defense therefore it is murder in the 2nd.

tazzygirl -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/13/2013 11:55:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas What oil do you use on your whip? Zimmerman. Not baby oil I am sure. How long do you oil it, four minutes? That is a long time. Talking to yourself yet again. Honestly, are you feeling well?

DomKen -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/13/2013 11:57:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic and one teen is dead because he dared to go to the store for some skittles and an iced tea and got upset at being followed. btw, what is your excuse for trolling? tammy get fed up of topping you? He pretty much admitted tammy is a sock.

tazzygirl -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/13/2013 11:58:06 AM)
OOOooo where?

Arturas -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/13/2013 11:59:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic and one teen is dead because he dared to go to the store for some skittles and an iced tea and got upset at being followed. btw, what is your excuse for trolling? tammy get fed up of topping you? And one teen is dead for attacking a neighborhood watch guy? tammy top me? Are you sure you are not projecting yourself into tammy's place and craving my touch and my whip? I think so. Beg her and if she asks me for you I'll give it some thought. very little thought. Just a thought, it's not a fact or piece of evidence but it is a piece. I could have a "first girl" and if you want four minutes of my time you can go through her as a "second girl". If she lets you through to me then bring skittles and I can do something creative with them, I am sure.

DomKen -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/13/2013 11:59:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy All these pages and yet no one has asked: How long will the jury deliberate? When do you think they reach a verdict? presumably, since they are not back yet, they are going over the evidence and their notes to convince the holdouts going one way or another. It could end at any time but based on the length of the trial and the amount of evidence to review I'd guess Tuesday or Wednesday.

Arturas -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/13/2013 12:00:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic and one teen is dead because he dared to go to the store for some skittles and an iced tea and got upset at being followed. btw, what is your excuse for trolling? tammy get fed up of topping you? He pretty much admitted tammy is a sock. Where is the evidence?

tazzygirl -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/13/2013 12:00:42 PM)
quote: Just a thought, it's not a fact or piece of evidence but it is a piece. I could have a "first girl" and if you want four minutes of my time you can go through her as a "second girl". If she lets you through to me then bring skittles and I can do something creative with them, I am sure. As creatively as you controlled tammy during her many melt downs on threads?

Arturas -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/13/2013 12:02:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy All these pages and yet no one has asked: How long will the jury deliberate? When do you think they reach a verdict? presumably, since they are not back yet, they are going over the evidence and their notes to convince the holdouts going one way or another. It could end at any time but based on the length of the trial and the amount of evidence to review I'd guess Tuesday or Wednesday. Or, they are topping each other according to your theory and it is a long and very creative session. I understand they are in a soundproof room.

DomKen -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/13/2013 12:05:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl OOOooo where? Looks like the posts involved got deleted. Someone got on his case over using sweet over and over again and basically he said it was no big deal because he was the only one that did so. Kirata, IIRC, pointed out that his posts as tammy also used sweet in the same manner. He suddenly departed the thread.

tazzygirl -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/13/2013 12:06:16 PM)
Ah yes, I remember that post. [:D]

Arturas -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/13/2013 12:09:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: Just a thought, it's not a fact or piece of evidence but it is a piece. I could have a "first girl" and if you want four minutes of my time you can go through her as a "second girl". If she lets you through to me then bring skittles and I can do something creative with them, I am sure. As creatively as you controlled tammy during her many melt downs on threads? Who can control women when they spend long times on the forum, eh taz? It seems to make them crazy.

tazzygirl -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/13/2013 12:09:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: Just a thought, it's not a fact or piece of evidence but it is a piece. I could have a "first girl" and if you want four minutes of my time you can go through her as a "second girl". If she lets you through to me then bring skittles and I can do something creative with them, I am sure. As creatively as you controlled tammy during her many melt downs on threads? Who can control women when they spend long times on the forum, eh taz? It seems to make them crazy. Then you should handle your house better. [;)]

Edwynn -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/13/2013 12:12:12 PM)
quote: He pretty much admitted tammy is a sock. Oh, please say it ain't so! It is unconscionable that anyone could use Tammy, my wonderful Tammy, as a puppet sock (or is it the other way around?) on a perv website forum. Just inexcusable. Please, not Tammy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYymDZtJvgs If only the world could see, that the same moon that's shining down on Pete's tomatoes is shining on all our tomatoes, we could 'all just get along,' or something like that. OK, I know it can't happen. But tomatoes are still good.

Lucylastic -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/13/2013 12:13:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic and one teen is dead because he dared to go to the store for some skittles and an iced tea and got upset at being followed. btw, what is your excuse for trolling? tammy get fed up of topping you? And one teen is dead for attacking a neighborhood watch guy? tammy top me? Are you sure you are not projecting yourself into tammy's place and craving my touch and my whip? I think so. Beg her and if she asks me for you I'll give it some thought. very little thought. LMFAO now THATS funny:) well done you do have a sense of the ridiculous, excellent!

Kirata -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/13/2013 12:14:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl OOOooo where? Looks like the posts involved got deleted. Someone got on his case over using sweet over and over again and basically he said it was no big deal because he was the only one that did so. Kirata, IIRC, pointed out that his posts as tammy also used sweet in the same manner. He suddenly departed the thread. Yeah, that was me. But I can't find the post now, so I guess you're right. K.

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