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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Don't go straight home. This will show the person where you live and is especially dangerous if you live alone. Try to go to a neighbor's house, a friend's house or another family member's house, where you know there will be other people to answer the door and take care of you.

http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-an-Attack-if-You-Think-You're-Being-Followed

Not a stalker.

And endanger the friend or neighbor.

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hey nowww, I am just going by the link you provided, its pretty clear they are considering a stalker as someone who has followed and/or contacted you on MULITIPLE occasions

you make it sound like martian went threw this logical thought process, I am bing followed, stalked persued, what should I do what should I do, well I shouldn't lead him to my house, I KNOWWW I'll NOT call 911, and I'll turn around and confront the guy

hmmm turning around and confronting the guy realllly makes it sound like he was in FEAR of him...
not sure about everyone here, but I usually DO NOT confront things I am in fear of!
now if he was cornered, well OK thats differant!
but I am thinking a young slim, teen could have turned and out run a fat old guy at ANY point, even when within a couple of feet of him!

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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ORIGINAL: RacerJim

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Sorry, I wouldnt lead anyone who was following me back to a house where its only me and my younger brother.. and I had a brother 8 years younger than me.

Sorry, you can't lead anyone anywhere if they can't see where you're going...from the time Zimmerman told 911 that Martin had run out of sight (when Martin turned right at the "T" and disappeared between the buildings) and the time Martin's 'girlfriend' said she heard a bump/thump while on the phone with Martin, Martin had been out of Zimmerman's sight for FOUR MINUTES -- more than enough time for Martin to have walked home, never mind run home, as soon as he was out of Zimmerman's sight.

You cant say that... you cant even prove that. You have no idea where Martin was... nor where Z was in relationship. Martin could have easily stepped out of where he was and been in the immediately eye sight of Z.

Lets not go down this road... there are way too many possible scenarios we both could give.

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Why can't I, or anyone else say that or prove that? Because you said we can't? Who the heck are you? Not only can I say that but the evidence and testimony introduced during the trial prove that, at least beyond a reasonable doubt.

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ORIGINAL: BitYakin

hey nowww, I am just going by the link you provided, its pretty clear they are considering a stalker as someone who has followed and/or contacted you on MULITIPLE occasions

you make it sound like martian went threw this logical thought process, I am bing followed, stalked persued, what should I do what should I do, well I shouldn't lead him to my house, I KNOWWW I'll NOT call 911, and I'll turn around and confront the guy

hmmm turning around and confronting the guy realllly makes it sound like he was in FEAR of him...
not sure about everyone here, but I usually DO NOT confront things I am in fear of!
now if he was cornered, well OK thats differant!
but I am thinking a young slim, teen could have turned and out run a fat old guy at ANY point, even when within a couple of feet of him!

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when i was followed I did not call 911 either, not before, during or after we escaped.. when my boyfriend and I were followed we were stopped (by the redneck attacker parking in front and stopping us).. my boyfriend rolled down his window part way cuz the dude got out of his car and went to the driver side window.. only when he reached in and tried grabbing my boyfriend did we know for certain we were in trouble (again, not of our doing, just as Martin was).. funny thing with Zimmy but why didnt Zimmy just answer Martins question? Instead Zimmy was demanding to know what Martin was doing there (remember Martin was just walking down the street and not doing anything illegal or to give anyone any reason to stop or question him).. How do you know that Martin didnt turn away from Zimmy at that point? Zimmy is the one that has the record for grabbing/assaulting people, & he was even charged for doing that to a cop, gotten fired from his security job cuz of that and had restraining order against him.. As I have said before, its my belief that Martin did try to leave but Zimmy wouldnt let him, grabbing him and starting the fight..

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: igor2003

I see a number of posters talking about how it isn't illegal to follow someone, and technically that is correct. Now, I have to wonder how many of those same posters would say to their wife, sister, daughter, or young children, "Now honey, if you are ever walking home alone at night, and you see someone following you in their car, don't worry because they are not doing anything illegal. And if they get out of their car, run after you, and follow you on foot, don't worry, because they aren't doing anything illegal. And if you decide to hide from them, but they hang around and keep searching for you, don't worry, because they aren't doing anything illegal."

You don't wonder that. You know what they would say. Get as far away from him as you can and call the police.

So it cuts both ways.

K.

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Why can't I, or anyone else say that or prove that? Because you said we can't? Who the heck are you? Not only can I say that but the evidence and testimony introduced during the trial prove that, at least beyond a reasonable doubt.

Zimmerman then started to head back to his car, he said, but never got there.

"He [Martin] jumped out from the bushes, and he said 'What the [expletive] is your problem, homie?' And I got my cell phone out to call 911 this time, and I said, 'I don't have a problem.' And he goes, 'Now you have a problem,' and he punched me in the nose," Zimmerman told the investigator.

Popped out of where he was hiding.. and Z happened to see him as he "popped out". Definitely doesnt follow your scenario.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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when i was followed I did not call 911 either, not before, during or after we escaped.. when my boyfriend and I were followed we were stopped (by the redneck attacker parking in front and stopping us).. my boyfriend rolled down his window part way cuz the dude got out of his car and went to the driver side window.. only when he reached in and tried grabbing my boyfriend did we know for certain we were in trouble (again, not of our doing, just as Martin was).. funny thing with Zimmy but why didnt Zimmy just answer Martins question? Instead Zimmy was demanding to know what Martin was doing there (remember Martin was just walking down the street and not doing anything illegal or to give anyone any reason to stop or question him).. How do you know that Martin didnt turn away from Zimmy at that point? Zimmy is the one that has the record for grabbing/assaulting people, & he was even charged for doing that to a cop, gotten fired from his security job cuz of that and had restraining order against him.. As I have said before, its my belief that Martin did try to leave but Zimmy wouldnt let him, grabbing him and starting the fight..

Shame the evidence says otherwise.

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ORIGINAL: RacerJim

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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when i was followed I did not call 911 either, not before, during or after we escaped.. when my boyfriend and I were followed we were stopped (by the redneck attacker parking in front and stopping us).. my boyfriend rolled down his window part way cuz the dude got out of his car and went to the driver side window.. only when he reached in and tried grabbing my boyfriend did we know for certain we were in trouble (again, not of our doing, just as Martin was).. funny thing with Zimmy but why didnt Zimmy just answer Martins question? Instead Zimmy was demanding to know what Martin was doing there (remember Martin was just walking down the street and not doing anything illegal or to give anyone any reason to stop or question him).. How do you know that Martin didnt turn away from Zimmy at that point? Zimmy is the one that has the record for grabbing/assaulting people, & he was even charged for doing that to a cop, gotten fired from his security job cuz of that and had restraining order against him.. As I have said before, its my belief that Martin did try to leave but Zimmy wouldnt let him, grabbing him and starting the fight..

Shame the evidence says otherwise.

Darn shame the evidence presented by the prosecution says otherwise.

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ORIGINAL: RacerJim

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ORIGINAL: Edwynn

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
When Trayvon doubled back.

Cite the evidence.

Not the delusion, not the fairy tale.

The clear-cut evidence.

Trayvon Martin either waited out of sight at the "T" or doubled back to the "T" after going home.

The clear-cut evidence are the cell-phone records of Zimmerman's call to 911 and Martin's 'girlfriend's call to Martin, which indicate that from the time Zimmerman told 911 that he lost sight of Martin (when Martin turned right/South at the "T" and disappeared between the buildings) until the time Martin's 'girlfriend' said she heard a bump/thump just before the call ended, Martin had FOUR MINUTES to continue running/walking South less than 400 feet from the "T" to get home. Obviously he either didn't do that, or he did and then doubled-back.

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ORIGINAL: Edwynn

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ORIGINAL: RacerJim

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ORIGINAL: Edwynn

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
When Trayvon doubled back.

Cite the evidence.

Not the delusion, not the fairy tale.

The clear-cut evidence.

Trayvon Martin either waited out of sight at the "T" or doubled back to the "T" after going home.

The clear-cut evidence are the cell-phone records of Zimmerman's call to 911 and Martin's 'girlfriend's call to Martin, which indicate that from the time Zimmerman told 911 that he lost sight of Martin (when Martin turned right/South at the "T" and disappeared between the buildings) until the time Martin's 'girlfriend' said she heard a bump/thump just before the call ended, Martin had FOUR MINUTES to continue running/walking South less than 400 feet from the "T" to get home. Obviously he either didn't do that, or he did and then doubled-back.

OK, so Martin EITHER supposedly did one thing, OR he supposedly did another thing.

Yup, that's as clear-cut as it gets.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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when i was followed I did not call 911 either, not before, during or after we escaped.. when my boyfriend and I were followed we were stopped (by the redneck attacker parking in front and stopping us).. my boyfriend rolled down his window part way cuz the dude got out of his car and went to the driver side window.. only when he reached in and tried grabbing my boyfriend did we know for certain we were in trouble (again, not of our doing, just as Martin was).. funny thing with Zimmy but why didnt Zimmy just answer Martins question? Instead Zimmy was demanding to know what Martin was doing there (remember Martin was just walking down the street and not doing anything illegal or to give anyone any reason to stop or question him).. How do you know that Martin didnt turn away from Zimmy at that point? Zimmy is the one that has the record for grabbing/assaulting people, & he was even charged for doing that to a cop, gotten fired from his security job cuz of that and had restraining order against him.. As I have said before, its my belief that Martin did try to leave but Zimmy wouldnt let him, grabbing him and starting the fight..

Shame the evidence says otherwise.

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ORIGINAL: Edwynn


Right. Nothing was due to actions or choices of the aggressor, none at all.

Martin "had options," but Zimmerman, having been instructed not to pursue, but doing so anyway, had no options, then.

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ORIGINAL: BitYakin

hey nowww, I am just going by the link you provided, its pretty clear they are considering a stalker as someone who has followed and/or contacted you on MULITIPLE occasions

you make it sound like martian went threw this logical thought process, I am bing followed, stalked persued, what should I do what should I do, well I shouldn't lead him to my house, I KNOWWW I'll NOT call 911, and I'll turn around and confront the guy

hmmm turning around and confronting the guy realllly makes it sound like he was in FEAR of him...
not sure about everyone here, but I usually DO NOT confront things I am in fear of!
now if he was cornered, well OK thats differant!
but I am thinking a young slim, teen could have turned and out run a fat old guy at ANY point, even when within a couple of feet of him!

when i was followed I did not call 911 either, not before, during or after we escaped.. when my boyfriend and I were followed we were stopped (by the redneck attacker parking in front and stopping us).. my boyfriend rolled down his window part way cuz the dude got out of his car and went to the driver side window.. only when he reached in and tried grabbing my boyfriend did we know for certain we were in trouble (again, not of our doing, just as Martin was).. funny thing with Zimmy but why didnt Zimmy just answer Martins question? Instead Zimmy was demanding to know what Martin was doing there (remember Martin was just walking down the street and not doing anything illegal or to give anyone any reason to stop or question him).. How do you know that Martin didnt turn away from Zimmy at that point? Zimmy is the one that has the record for grabbing/assaulting people, & he was even charged for doing that to a cop, gotten fired from his security job cuz of that and had restraining order against him.. As I have said before, its my belief that Martin did try to leave but Zimmy wouldnt let him, grabbing him and starting the fight..