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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 10:35:12 PM   
tazzygirl


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Status: offline 		Three-year-old Ryder Rozier has died after the boy shot himself in the head with the gun belonging to his uncle, Oklahoma state trooper Ian Rozier.

http://elitedaily.com/news/world/threeyearold-boy-shot-himself-in-the-head/

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 10:36:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		MARYSVILLE, Wash. -- Prosecutors have dropped the case against a Marysville police officer who was charged with manslaughter in connection with his daughter's shooting death.

The case against Officer Derek Carlile went to trial earlier this month, but ended with a hung jury.

In court documents filed Tuesday, Snohomish County Deputy Prosecuting Attorney Lisa Paul asked that the charge against Carlile be dismissed because prosecutors do not "believe that another jury will be able to reach a unanimous verdict."

Carlile had been charged with second-degree manslaughter after his daughter, 7-year-old Jenna Carlile, was killed in the family's van on March 10.

Investigators said Carlile was off duty and headed to a wedding with his wife and children when they stopped at an art studio in Stanwood. Carlile and his wife left the children in the family van while they dropped off business cards. Carlile's loaded personal handgun was also in the van.

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Prosecutor-drops-charge-against-Derek-Carlile-in-daughters-shooting-death-181214561.html

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 10:37:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Where are the rioters? Where is the chaos?

Come on, I am an insane gun owner with a small arsenal. I stockpiled MRE's, ammo, I am prepared for the civil unrest that this verdict should cause.

I see no glow of massive fires in town, the national emergency broadcast has not messed up my PPV GGW tonite.

What the hell am I going to do with 50 thousand rounds of ammo? If there are no riots, my investment will be worthless.

I had a choice, ammo or vintage high dollar scotch. I chose the ammo.

So you anarchy driven non white (rioters do not have to be just African American) lunatics who want to fight "the man" and those that think that Obama is actually a white republican dude pretending to be an African American born in Kenya trying to turn this country to communism need to take to the streets, kill, rape, plunder, vandalize and while you are at it, destroy all the Coors beer.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 10:37:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Were any of those kids murdered? No.

Accident does not equal murder. But please, continue. I know the difference is tough for a woman to grasp when she has no point to make. Tell me about oranges and their racist beliefs now.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 10:37:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		All tragic deaths

Not a single one of them intended

ALL could have been avoided had the gun owners been responsible with their guns...

Every single one of them.

And if that pisses you off.... good.. it should.

And if it doesnt... Im glad we live in different states.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 10:39:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		And yet not one of those tragic deaths was the result of MURDER.

Do try and at least pretend to know how to stay on topic.

< Message edited by DarqueMirror -- 7/13/2013 10:40:06 PM >

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 10:41:59 PM   
tazzygirl


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quote:

Were any of those kids murdered? No.

Accident does not equal murder. But please, continue. I know the difference is tough for a woman to grasp when she has no point to make. Tell me about oranges and their racist beliefs now.


Every fucking one if you want to hide behind the "murder" clause. Fuck you. These kids were neglected and abused by gun owners who didnt give enough of a fuck about them to secure their guns so that children could not get to them. if that makes you warm and fuzzy enough that you can negate all the children who are dying simply because no one "meant" to kill them, then you really are part of the problem and have no ability to see beyond your own gun to the truth....

They all could have been avoided.

And thats my point on guns. I dont think we need more gun control.. I think we need to force gun owners to be more fucking responsible with their guns. Own what the fuck you want... and if that gun falls into the wrong hands, that gun owner should be held responsible.

Period.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 10:43:45 PM   
DarqueMirror


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Status: offline 		Fuck you too, gash.

Don't hide behind accidental deaths to try and take away my fucking rights you non-topic-following cunt.

CHLs did not kill those kids. And making CHLs illegal would not save future kids.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 10:44:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh.. finally grew a set of balls did ya? Too cute. Yeah, I got a gash.. and you got a cock that you stroke like the guns you own... bet you masturbate with that damn gun dont ya.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 10:45:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Oh.. finally grew a set of balls did ya? Too cute. Yeah, I got a gash.. and you got a cock that you stroke like the guns you own... bet you masturbate with that damn gun dont ya.


I actually don't even own a gun anymore. So that kinda shoots down yet another of your accusatory theories doesn't it?

You don't just have a gash, you are one.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 10:45:55 PM   
tazzygirl


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quote:

CHLs did not kill those kids. And making CHLs illegal would not save future kids.


Cant secure them? Dont own them.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 10:47:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DarqueMirror


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Oh.. finally grew a set of balls did ya? Too cute. Yeah, I got a gash.. and you got a cock that you stroke like the guns you own... bet you masturbate with that damn gun dont ya.


I actually don't even own a gun anymore. So that kinda shoots down yet another of your accusatory theories doesn't it?

quote:

Don't hide behind accidental deaths to try and take away my fucking rights you non-topic-following cunt.


Its all about your tights.. all about what you want.. fuck your kids, right? Fuck anyone's kids... its all about you....

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 10:47:48 PM   
DarqueMirror


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quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

quote:

CHLs did not kill those kids. And making CHLs illegal would not save future kids.


Cant secure them? Dont own them.


Tell that to the criminals. Oh wait...they don't listen do they?

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 10:49:21 PM   
tazzygirl


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Status: offline 		half a million guns are stolen each year. How many are sold to criminals privately who cant get them any other way beyond the stupidity of gun owners who dont give a fuck? That would really start to crack down on criminals getting guns. But, lets not do that because you MIGHT be inconvenienced.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 10:49:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		I did not consider that Zimmerman committed murder, I was thinking he was guilty of manslaughter.

It is done now. You people screamed when O. J walked, so we scream when Zimmerman walked.

Besides the prosecution botched this case from the get go. Inept is not the word I would use to describe their efforts, amateurish is close.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 10:50:31 PM   
DarqueMirror


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Its all about your tights.. all about what you want.. fuck your kids, right? Fuck anyone's kids... its all about you....


Ummm moron? Did you miss the many posts I've made where I said I don't and won't have kids? Go on...make another assumption. Raving cunts are good at that...logic on the other hand...not so much.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 10:50:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's a valid opinion. With your clarification, you are now talking about the 'initial aggressor' stuff that descended from the old code duello.

I agree, there should be something in place to keep a person from running up to someone, slapping them and running around the corner, and then shooting the person who was just slapped when they give chase.


Here again we hit the problem that no one on this planet can reasonably know if Zimmerman goaded the attack and then shot, except Zimmerman... and he's not talking.

Unless we dismantle our justice system to remove bedrock protections like 'innocent until proven guilty', or adopt the Chinese model or the Inquisition, I don't see how your goal can be achieved.

And please understand that SYG wasn't simply created out of the blue in 2004... a bunch of legislators didn't sit down and decide to come up with a free-for-all.

SYG (and shall issue permit laws) are a direct *reaction* to the old racist Jim Crow and anti-Chinese laws that were designed to keep the poor and minorities from defending themselves against lynch mobs.

In the good old boy bad old days, those who weren't in power were required to retreat to the wall in the face of deadly force. A young man like Martin could have been legally shot in the back while leaving the store with his beverage and candy, as long as someone thought maybe he hadn't paid for them. An Hispanic like Zimmerman would never have gotten a CCW permit.

That's the USA I grew up in.

What you see as leading to tragedies, I see as leading away from lynchings, and adding to tragedies via the previously mentioned consequences. Nothing happens in a vacuum.


I'm all ears for a workable fix.


quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

I consider self defense defending myself my family and my property when I am minding my own business not when I am minding someone else's. Basically that is what this law enabled and Zimmerman was aware of this law when he went looking for trouble with a gun.

I've nothing against using a weapon for defense when trouble comes looking for me but it should not be used in the way Zimmerman used it legal or not... Now I am fully aware this is just my opinion and you will never agree with me... So be it.

Butch




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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 10:50:36 PM   
tazzygirl


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Status: offline 		I figured Z would get off... Im not surprised.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 10:52:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

I did not consider that Zimmerman committed murder, I was thinking he was guilty of manslaughter.

It is done now. You people screamed when O. J walked, so we scream when Zimmerman walked.

Besides the prosecution botched this case from the get go. Inept is not the word I would use to describe their efforts, amateurish is close.



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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 10:52:27 PM   
DarqueMirror


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I figured Z would get off... Im not surprised.


I am. I'm shocked they found 6 women able to use logic instead of emotion to come to the correct decision.

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