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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 10:52:44 PM   
tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: DarqueMirror


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Its all about your tights.. all about what you want.. fuck your kids, right? Fuck anyone's kids... its all about you....


Ummm moron? Did you miss the many posts I've made where I said I don't and won't have kids? Go on...make another assumption. Raving cunts are good at that...logic on the other hand...not so much.


I dont stalk you like you do me. I dont give a fuck about your many posts that I scroll by because you are such an idiot on many political topics. I sure as hell am glad I dont live in your neighborhood with your inept attitude on the protection of children.

By all means, keep your rights...

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 10:55:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

The Florida statues on self defense were written decades ago, to match the US Supreme Court's ruling setting the new standard... 'a reasonable fear of imminent death or great bodily harm'. That's the standard the jury was told to apply. Not SYG, not child abuse, not dueling, not any of the media's hype.

Those legislators aren't there any more, how is kicking out the current group and passing an unconstitutional law from a mob going to help?

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

I would think amending the Florida Statutes that enabled this mess would be a start... Then I'd do my best to kick the radicals that passed the law from office and get responsible legislatures to govern the state.

Butch



It would make them feel better. And the goal for some was to undermine self defense all along.

I have no problem with self defense as long as it is an affirmative defense. The Florida rule makes a mockery of the very concept.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 10:56:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just say the conceal and carry laws are the only cause for the reduction in violent crime… that is a stretch but just say it is. Is this reduction worth the loss of life from gun accidents that ridiculously far outnumber incidents of citizens protecting themselves directly with guns?

I ’m not sure it is… In my town I can only remember two cases of direct gun use by citizens to end or prevent a crime in the last few years yet there have been dozens of children killed and maimed by the guns of so called responsible gun owners. I’m not sure if that is the point tazzy is trying to make but it is a valid one I am making and it is something to think about anyway.

I hate turning this thread to the usual gun control even if it is pertinent because it is useless to do… But the SYG law in Florida would be the logical target of those dissatisfied with this verdict…we shall see.

Butch


< Message edited by kdsub -- 7/13/2013 10:58:44 PM >

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 10:58:02 PM   
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I dont stalk you like you do me. I dont give a fuck about your many posts that I scroll by because you are such an idiot on many political topics. I sure as hell am glad I dont live in your neighborhood with your inept attitude on the protection of children.


Riiiiight. Stalking...on a public message board. LoL Try another one oh-illogical-one.

I'm very glad I live nowhere near someone who wants to trample on others' rights.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 10:58:19 PM   
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I could be wrong though, maybe they will just wait till later to abuse their petty power.



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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 10:59:32 PM   
tazzygirl


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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:00:31 PM   
Powergamz1


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Just say the conceal and carry laws are the only cause for the reduction in violent crime… that is a stretch but just say it is. Is this reduction worth the loss of life from gun accidents that ridiculously far outnumber incidents of citizens protecting themselves directly with guns?

I ’m not sure it is… In my town I can only remember two cases of direct gun use by citizens to end or prevent a crime in the last few years yet there have been dozens of children killed and maimed by the guns of so called responsible gun owners. I’m not sure if that is the point tazzy is trying to make but it is a valid one I am making and it is something to think about anyway.

I hate turning this thread to the usual gun control even if it is pertinent because it is useless to do… But the SYG law in Florida would be the logical target of those dissatisfied with this verdict…we shall see.

Butch




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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:00:42 PM   
tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: DarqueMirror


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
I dont stalk you like you do me. I dont give a fuck about your many posts that I scroll by because you are such an idiot on many political topics. I sure as hell am glad I dont live in your neighborhood with your inept attitude on the protection of children.


Riiiiight. Stalking...on a public message board. LoL Try another one oh-illogical-one.

I'm very glad I live nowhere near someone who wants to trample on others' rights.


We trample on rights all the time... because the rights of others also matter.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:03:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Just say the conceal and carry laws are the only cause for the reduction in violent crime… that is a stretch but just say it is. Is this reduction worth the loss of life from gun accidents that ridiculously far outnumber incidents of citizens protecting themselves directly with guns?

I ’m not sure it is… In my town I can only remember two cases of direct gun use by citizens to end or prevent a crime in the last few years yet there have been dozens of children killed and maimed by the guns of so called responsible gun owners. I’m not sure if that is the point tazzy is trying to make but it is a valid one I am making and it is something to think about anyway.

I hate turning this thread to the usual gun control even if it is pertinent because it is useless to do… But the SYG law in Florida would be the logical target of those dissatisfied with this verdict…we shall see.

Butch


Even though it had nothing to do with the case? Some logic.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:03:54 PM   
DomKen


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Irresponsible but legal gun owners....

http://www.twincities.com/wisconsin/ci_23652611/milwaukee-pair-men-concealed-carry-permits-engage-shootout
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Two Milwaukee men -- each with a state permit to carry a concealed weapon -- traded dozens of shots in a rolling shootout through two sides of town and down a freeway, the kind of scenario concealed-carry opponents feared would turn road rage incidents deadly.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:05:22 PM   
tazzygirl


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Status: offline 		But, its their right to do that!

Just like its their right to leave a gun out for a child to find!

Its their right, dammit!

Dont you see that?

The people who get hurt are just accidents!

They didnt mean to kill them!

/sarcasm

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:05:46 PM   
DomKen


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ORIGINAL: DarqueMirror


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Pst... I already did. And, I find it extremely relevant since you decided to open this line of debate on an unmoderated thread.


*I* opened it? Bullshit. Ken made the outrageous claim that when concealed carry was illegal "everyone survived" which is bullshit because you don't survive when you've been murdered.

Nope. You just lied.

I simply made fun of you for being so afraid even though violent crime is way down from the peak rates.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:06:36 PM   
OrionTheWolf


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ORIGINAL: DarqueMirror


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Its all about your tights.. all about what you want.. fuck your kids, right? Fuck anyone's kids... its all about you....


Ummm moron? Did you miss the many posts I've made where I said I don't and won't have kids? Go on...make another assumption. Raving cunts are good at that...logic on the other hand...not so much.



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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:06:51 PM   
kdsub


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Status: offline 		Saying it had nothing to do with the case is denying the very reason Zimmerman was found not guilty... it is the very law he built his defense on and the same law that allowed him to kill another human being and walk away a free man... Pretty logical to me.

Butch

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:06:57 PM   
tazzygirl


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Status: offline 		Funny thing about all this? I never thought, beyond the fact that NW says they should never carry weapons while on patrol, that Z was wrong to have his gun.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:07:27 PM   
DarqueMirror


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We trample on rights all the time... because the rights of others also matter.


Not according to you they don't.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:09:13 PM   
DarqueMirror


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Funny thing about all this? I never thought, beyond the fact that NW says they should never carry weapons while on patrol, that Z was wrong to have his gun.


And you've been wrong from the beginning. The facts of the case from the beginning have indicated Zimmerman was not "on patrol" as neighborhood watch at the time. He was coming home from the store, same as Martin.

All the NW bullshit has been a smokescreen from day 1.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:09:49 PM   
DomKen


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Just say the conceal and carry laws are the only cause for the reduction in violent crime… that is a stretch but just say it is. Is this reduction worth the loss of life from gun accidents that ridiculously far outnumber incidents of citizens protecting themselves directly with guns?

Violent crime is down dramatically in Illinois and we only just were forced by a judge to implement concealed carry. Just in case any one really wants to make that claim.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:09:51 PM   
tazzygirl


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Status: offline 		Children dont have the right to grow up without being harmed by the stupidity of the adults that surround them? Wow, learn something new everyday. let me call CPS and inform them they can pack up and go home. Some DM dude insisted that only his rights should prevail making it perfectly fine that the adults in a child's life can be so stupid as to leave a loaded gun within easy access.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:11:12 PM   
tazzygirl


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And you've been wrong from the beginning. The facts of the case from the beginning have indicated Zimmerman was not "on patrol" as neighborhood watch at the time. He was coming home from the store, same as Martin.

All the NW bullshit has been a smokescreen from day 1.


As Captain, i hold him to a higher standard. If you cant follow your own rules, why the fuck are you even bothering? Might want to go back and see the post I made about those NW rules.. was a long list... he broke many.. as NW captain, no less.

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Telling me to take Midol wont help your butthurt.
RIP, my demon-child 5-16-11
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