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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:14:03 PM   
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Saying it had nothing to do with the case is denying the very reason Zimmerman was found not guilty... it is the very law he built his defense on and the same law that allowed him to kill another human being and walk away a free man... Pretty logical to me.

Butch

You clearly paid no attention to the trial.
The Zimmerman defense team never used SYG.
They used self defense which is different.
Had SYG been involved there would have been a special hearing for it with no jury.
Had he won on SYG there would have been no trial.
It is impossible to retreat with someone sitting on top of you so SYG would not have been a factor.
Other than these trivial points it was all about SYG.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:15:45 PM   
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Children dont have the right to grow up without being harmed by the stupidity of the adults that surround them?


Not according to you they don't. They can be aborted up to and after birth.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:15:45 PM   
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On what channel did you see something different happen?

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Saying it had nothing to do with the case is denying the very reason Zimmerman was found not guilty... it is the very law he built his defense on and the same law that allowed him to kill another human being and walk away a free man... Pretty logical to me.

Butch



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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:16:43 PM   
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Children dont have the right to grow up without being harmed by the stupidity of the adults that surround them?


Not according to you they don't. They can be aborted up to and after birth.


ROFL.. way to try and misrepresent my position on abortion... completely nonfactual... rather cute fantasy you have there though.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:19:17 PM   
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Nope. You just lied.

I simply made fun of you for being so afraid even though violent crime is way down from the peak rates.


Riiiiiight. Claim I lied when you're the one who made the outrageous claim that everyone survives when concealed carry is illegal. Are you sure you aren't female?

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:20:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

Then why did the judge say exactly the opposite of what you just said? She gave the 'reasonable fear for his own life' charge, and said that 'duty to retreat' didn't apply.

On what channel did you see something different happen?

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Saying it had nothing to do with the case is denying the very reason Zimmerman was found not guilty... it is the very law he built his defense on and the same law that allowed him to kill another human being and walk away a free man... Pretty logical to me.

Butch



Was that stupid judge agreeing with me again?

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:20:50 PM   
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I wanted to sincerely thank you. The knowledge that you will not procreate makes me feel better.


Awwww. A feeble attempt at an insult. Cute kiddo. Run along now.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:21:19 PM   
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Are you sure you aren't female?


jealous much? You do seem to have an issue with "gashes" and "cunts". Not getting enough for yourself? Or do you simply want to have one of your own? You know, they do have sex change operations now.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:22:38 PM   
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And you've been wrong from the beginning. The facts of the case from the beginning have indicated Zimmerman was not "on patrol" as neighborhood watch at the time. He was coming home from the store, same as Martin.

All the NW bullshit has been a smokescreen from day 1.


As Captain, i hold him to a higher standard. If you cant follow your own rules, why the fuck are you even bothering? Might want to go back and see the post I made about those NW rules.. was a long list... he broke many.. as NW captain, no less.


Can you not read? He broke *no* rules. He was driving down the street as a private citizen on personal errands. He was not acting as a neighborhood watch in any capacity.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:24:35 PM   
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ROFL.. way to try and misrepresent my position on abortion... completely nonfactual... rather cute fantasy you have there though.


You started talking about right to grow up, not me.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:25:33 PM   
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And you've been wrong from the beginning. The facts of the case from the beginning have indicated Zimmerman was not "on patrol" as neighborhood watch at the time. He was coming home from the store, same as Martin.

All the NW bullshit has been a smokescreen from day 1.


As Captain, i hold him to a higher standard. If you cant follow your own rules, why the fuck are you even bothering? Might want to go back and see the post I made about those NW rules.. was a long list... he broke many.. as NW captain, no less.


Can you not read? He broke *no* rules. He was driving down the street as a private citizen on personal errands. He was not acting as a neighborhood watch in any capacity.

A mere technicality (note sarcasm font)

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:26:28 PM   
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Can you not read? He broke *no* rules. He was driving down the street as a private citizen on personal errands. He was not acting as a neighborhood watch in any capacity.


Completely against the NW rules. Completely in violation of his role as NW Captain for the subdivision. Had anyone else broken such a rule within their own role as leader, they would be immediately fired. Had I done so as a nurse, and caused the death of someone, completely against my role as a nurse, I would be held responsible. I feel no reason to hold him "blameless" on breaking the rules simply because he insisted he wasnt "on patrol".

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:27:48 PM   
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ROFL.. way to try and misrepresent my position on abortion... completely nonfactual... rather cute fantasy you have there though.


You started talking about right to grow up, not me.


I did.... grow up... not be born.. and my abortion stance is up until viability... 3 year olds are quite viable... unless you failed that part in biology.


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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:30:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD
A mere technicality (note sarcasm font)


She loves technicalities. Haven't you seen the other thread? Not technically a fetus, not technically a baby, not technically alive. KILL IT QUICK!!

Funny, she's so up in arms over owning guns "responsibly," but not fucking "responsibly."

Apparently to her, responsible people lock up their guns, but use abortion at will as a form of birth control.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:32:23 PM   
tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: BamaD
A mere technicality (note sarcasm font)


She loves technicalities. Haven't you seen the other thread? Not technically a fetus, not technically a baby, not technically alive. KILL IT QUICK!!

Funny, she's so up in arms over owning guns "responsibly," but not fucking "responsibly."

Apparently to her, responsible people lock up their guns, but use abortion at will as a form of birth control.



At will? Hardly... again you are so fucking clueless its hilarious.

Abortion after death is what you are advocating as an "accident" as evidenced by all the posts I made in regards to children dying as a result of irresponsible gun owners.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:34:02 PM   
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Can you not read? He broke *no* rules. He was driving down the street as a private citizen on personal errands. He was not acting as a neighborhood watch in any capacity.


Completely against the NW rules. Completely in violation of his role as NW Captain for the subdivision. Had anyone else broken such a rule within their own role as leader, they would be immediately fired. Had I done so as a nurse, and caused the death of someone, completely against my role as a nurse, I would be held responsible. I feel no reason to hold him "blameless" on breaking the rules simply because he insisted he wasnt "on patrol".


So you're saying a neighborhood watch captain can't drive to the store. You're ridiculous.

They are not cops (as you folks love to point out). They are not "on duty" 24 hours a day. He is allowed to be and act as a private citizen and that includes carrying his gun concealed while running errands.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:34:59 PM   
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The other threads with Zimmerman as the topic, or any other topics, still face normal moderation.

For which I have a renewed appreciation.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:36:45 PM   
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At will? Hardly... again you are so fucking clueless its hilarious.


You're the one who quibbled over two weeks of viability and then refused to provide a better solution.


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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:37:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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Can you not read? He broke *no* rules. He was driving down the street as a private citizen on personal errands. He was not acting as a neighborhood watch in any capacity.


Completely against the NW rules. Completely in violation of his role as NW Captain for the subdivision. Had anyone else broken such a rule within their own role as leader, they would be immediately fired. Had I done so as a nurse, and caused the death of someone, completely against my role as a nurse, I would be held responsible. I feel no reason to hold him "blameless" on breaking the rules simply because he insisted he wasnt "on patrol".


So you're saying a neighborhood watch captain can't drive to the store. You're ridiculous.

They are not cops (as you folks love to point out). They are not "on duty" 24 hours a day. He is allowed to be and act as a private citizen and that includes carrying his gun concealed while running errands.


Not at all. NW watch plainly states... you do not follow. Period. NW watch isnt JUST for those on patrol but for the whole community. Its taught to all members of the community. You do NOT follow. Since he was in charge of the NW there.. he should have followed his training. Instead, you want to whine and let him off that hook. he is not guilty.. per the jury. Per public opinion, for following the way he did, he will never be forgiven.

Public opinion is a bitch of a jury.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/13/2013 11:38:57 PM   
tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
At will? Hardly... again you are so fucking clueless its hilarious.


You're the one who quibbled over two weeks of viability and then refused to provide a better solution.




Viability is what science says it is... per the courts.

Not some arm chair warrior who is praying he didnt get his last fuck knocked up and may have to pay child support.

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