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ORIGINAL: DarqueMirror

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Its all about your tights.. all about what you want.. fuck your kids, right? Fuck anyone's kids... its all about you....

Ummm moron? Did you miss the many posts I've made where I said I don't and won't have kids? Go on...make another assumption. Raving cunts are good at that...logic on the other hand...not so much.

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The Florida statues on self defense were written decades ago, to match the US Supreme Court's ruling setting the new standard... 'a reasonable fear of imminent death or great bodily harm'. That's the standard the jury was told to apply. Not SYG, not child abuse, not dueling, not any of the media's hype.

Those legislators aren't there any more, how is kicking out the current group and passing an unconstitutional law from a mob going to help?

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

I would think amending the Florida Statutes that enabled this mess would be a start... Then I'd do my best to kick the radicals that passed the law from office and get responsible legislatures to govern the state.

Butch

It would make them feel better. And the goal for some was to undermine self defense all along.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
I dont stalk you like you do me. I dont give a fuck about your many posts that I scroll by because you are such an idiot on many political topics. I sure as hell am glad I dont live in your neighborhood with your inept attitude on the protection of children.

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Just say the conceal and carry laws are the only cause for the reduction in violent crime… that is a stretch but just say it is. Is this reduction worth the loss of life from gun accidents that ridiculously far outnumber incidents of citizens protecting themselves directly with guns?

I ’m not sure it is… In my town I can only remember two cases of direct gun use by citizens to end or prevent a crime in the last few years yet there have been dozens of children killed and maimed by the guns of so called responsible gun owners. I’m not sure if that is the point tazzy is trying to make but it is a valid one I am making and it is something to think about anyway.

I hate turning this thread to the usual gun control even if it is pertinent because it is useless to do… But the SYG law in Florida would be the logical target of those dissatisfied with this verdict…we shall see.

Butch

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
I dont stalk you like you do me. I dont give a fuck about your many posts that I scroll by because you are such an idiot on many political topics. I sure as hell am glad I dont live in your neighborhood with your inept attitude on the protection of children.

Riiiiight. Stalking...on a public message board. LoL Try another one oh-illogical-one.

I'm very glad I live nowhere near someone who wants to trample on others' rights.

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Just say the conceal and carry laws are the only cause for the reduction in violent crime… that is a stretch but just say it is. Is this reduction worth the loss of life from gun accidents that ridiculously far outnumber incidents of citizens protecting themselves directly with guns?

I ’m not sure it is… In my town I can only remember two cases of direct gun use by citizens to end or prevent a crime in the last few years yet there have been dozens of children killed and maimed by the guns of so called responsible gun owners. I’m not sure if that is the point tazzy is trying to make but it is a valid one I am making and it is something to think about anyway.

I hate turning this thread to the usual gun control even if it is pertinent because it is useless to do… But the SYG law in Florida would be the logical target of those dissatisfied with this verdict…we shall see.

Butch

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Irresponsible but legal gun owners....

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Two Milwaukee men -- each with a state permit to carry a concealed weapon -- traded dozens of shots in a rolling shootout through two sides of town and down a freeway, the kind of scenario concealed-carry opponents feared would turn road rage incidents deadly.

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Pst... I already did. And, I find it extremely relevant since you decided to open this line of debate on an unmoderated thread. [;)]

*I* opened it? Bullshit. Ken made the outrageous claim that when concealed carry was illegal "everyone survived" which is bullshit because you don't survive when you've been murdered.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Its all about your tights.. all about what you want.. fuck your kids, right? Fuck anyone's kids... its all about you....

Ummm moron? Did you miss the many posts I've made where I said I don't and won't have kids? Go on...make another assumption. Raving cunts are good at that...logic on the other hand...not so much.

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We trample on rights all the time... because the rights of others also matter.

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Funny thing about all this? I never thought, beyond the fact that NW says they should never carry weapons while on patrol, that Z was wrong to have his gun.

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Just say the conceal and carry laws are the only cause for the reduction in violent crime… that is a stretch but just say it is. Is this reduction worth the loss of life from gun accidents that ridiculously far outnumber incidents of citizens protecting themselves directly with guns?

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And you've been wrong from the beginning. The facts of the case from the beginning have indicated Zimmerman was not "on patrol" as neighborhood watch at the time. He was coming home from the store, same as Martin.

All the NW bullshit has been a smokescreen from day 1.