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Arturas -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/14/2013 1:54:15 PM)
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ORIGINAL: RacerJim
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ORIGINAL: Powergamz1
The judge followed balancing guidelines on whether those select excerpts might be too inflammatory, versus offering nothing useful.
Martin didn't have a gun that night, so texts about wanting a gun would provide nothing in the way of valid evidence.
Martin didn't steal anything in the subdivision that night, so rumors about earlier thefts hundreds of miles away, proved nothing relevant to Zimmerman.
Whatever evidence of Martin punching people may have existed, was redundant in the face of evidence from that night *already* supporting the conclusion that he punched Zimmerman.
The other stuff about being kicked out of school, etc. Zimmerman had no way of knowing any of that, so it couldn't have influenced his fear for his life claim.
We don't really 'know' anything about Martin's character... for all we know, had things ended differently, he could have gone on to become a model citizen, or a gang leader, or anything in between.
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ORIGINAL: RacerJim
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ORIGINAL: dcnovice
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Some of you may recall that President Obama, who identifies as a black man, felt particularly close to this case because if he had a son, that son would have been a useless piece of shit like Trayvon Martin.
This sentence actually tells us much more about your character than about Trayvon Martin's.
Your comment actually tells us you can't handle the truth about Trayvon Martin's character, which the Judge felt would be so detrimental to the prosecution's case that she precluded the jury from learning about it during the trial.
The Judge allowed the prosecution to enter into evidence specific parts of Zimmerman's background as evidence of his "cop wannabe" state of mind that night, but didn't allow the defense to enter into evidence specific parts of Martin's background as evident of his "gansta wannabe" state of mind that night. I fail to see any balance in that. Useful would have been the same from each side or nothing at all.
That Martin did not have a gun that night does not nullify the fact that he wanted one, therefore pertaining to his state of mind that night.
That Martin did not steal anything in the subdivision that night does not nullify the fact that he had stolen before AND matched the description of those (black teenagers/young adults) who had recently been arrested for stealing in the subdivision, therefore would have been relevant to Zimmerman's state of mind that night.
The prosecution attempted to convince the jury that Zimmerman threw the first punch, therefore Martin's history of punching people would not have been redundant.
The other stuff about his being kicked out of school, his gangsta and racist tweets and photos, etc., etc. Zimmerman indeed had no way of knowing any of that, but since the prosecution attempted to portray Martin as a sweet and innocent little 17yo boy hunted down and murdered by a racist cop wannabe adult it certainly could have bolstered the defense's portrayal of Martin as a "gangsta wannabe" racist thug.
We know enough about Martin's character to know he wasn't the gentle, innocent, kind, sweet little boy that the media and prosecution portrayed and pictured him to be...for all we know, had things ended differently, Martin could have been arrested, tried, convicted and imprisoned for 1st Degree Murder.
Exactly. He believed he could simply jump out of the bushes and assault an older white man not realizing in the real world he can get hurt doing that. So, little boys, black or white, go home and don't play gang banger with the neighborhood watch or any adult because that Walmart ammunition went somewhere and it's not in your pocket with the skittles and the nude underage girl photos.
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