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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 9:45:55 AM   
mnottertail


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Status: offline 		Legally speaking a magistrate is one who sits in the stead of a judge but who only has a small area of expertise that they can deal in, be it child support, warrants, or some other small area.

They cannot take any case that is in the system.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 9:47:28 AM   
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Another one of the many lies fomented by the StormFront crowd. In Virginia a magistrate is the same as a justice of the peace elsewhere... zero judicial authority, and even less than zero in another state.


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Zs daddio was some judge or something like that.


For people screaming justice for tm- the jury has spoken. Get rid of the DA who could have made charges that would have stuck.


There were no charges that would have stuck. Are you saying you wanted the DA to plant evidence or something?

Chuckles.Well,they fired the whistleblower who came forward to the defense with the "discovery concerns."

There's another lawsuit coming out of this case.
More state funds spent.
Man,the people who really love this case are the lawyers and media-it's the gift that keeps on giving

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 9:51:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		It's been proven that the police did an exemplary job of treating this case like a textbook homicide.
If they simply high fived Zimmerman and let him play with the lights and sirens on the way home (as the virulent racists keep pretending), then where did all the evidence collected that night and used at trial come from?

No, what this was, was a blatant attempt to media lynch a brown skinned man. Fatty Arbuckle redux, stopped only by 6 jurors who gave their word to uphold the letter and spirit of the law.

And the internet vigilantes are howling at being denied the prospect of Zimmerman being killed in prison.

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1-This wasn't about race. The only ones who made it about race were the media and politicians. In other words, racists taking advantage of a tragedy to advance personal agendas,most re gun control,SYG and race.


Im not so sure about it not being about race. Dont get me wrong, I dont think Z decided to do what he did simply because T was black. I do have to wonder about how the police treated this case initially though.

What?They investigated.They did not find proof that a crime had been committed.Thus, they didn't charge. A decision that,now that we've squandered millions on a trial,looks wise in hindsight and was vindicated by a jury.

Did they make mistakes?
Sure. But that happens on every case. No crime work is 100% perfect.In this case, the CSI people really shouldn't have wrapped the body in plastic, that violates crime scene protocols 101 (Ruins any DNA,skin scrapings etc...because it traps the moisture within the plastic,compromising everything).But other than that,their fieldwork was fine.
I'd say it was a whole helluva lot more racist for the city council to be breathing down the cops backs forcing them to lay bad charges on Z than anything Z may have done.

And let's not forget whose racists comments made the trial.From what we know,the most racist person in this whole deal was TM.

ETA-It's funny watching the racists move the goalposts.First it was that Z was racist. Once it was repeatedly proven he's a latin (Possibly with black roots),now it's not Z that's the racist,it's the system. What's the next line of defense-it's Obama who's the racist? Or maybe Holder...



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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 9:52:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		Chuckles.Well,they fired the whistleblower who came forward to the defense with the "discovery concerns."

Looks like he has a very good case.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 9:52:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Kana


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ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

Another one of the many lies fomented by the StormFront crowd. In Virginia a magistrate is the same as a justice of the peace elsewhere... zero judicial authority, and even less than zero in another state.


quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Zs daddio was some judge or something like that.


For people screaming justice for tm- the jury has spoken. Get rid of the DA who could have made charges that would have stuck.


There were no charges that would have stuck. Are you saying you wanted the DA to plant evidence or something?

Chuckles.Well,they fired the whistleblower who came forward to the defense with the "discovery concerns."

There's another lawsuit coming out of this case.
More state funds spent.
Man,the people who really love this case are the lawyers and media-it's the gift that keeps on giving

Based on that last, makes you wonder why this case has lurched on all this time. Or even why it became such an issue in the first place.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 9:53:26 AM   
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There's another lawsuit coming out of this case.
More state funds spent.
Man,the people who really love this case are the lawyers and media-it's the gift that keeps on giving


There is one pending against Z for security costs.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 9:54:07 AM   
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From CNN livefeed:
"Di Maio says he believes Zimmerman's nose was broken and that either Zimmerman or someone on scene could have popped it back into place. Di Maio says that if it was just swelling on Zimmerman's, it shouldn't have gone down in only four hours."


Thats my problem. I highly doubt paramedics would have reset his nose, the liability would be too great. Could he have reset it himself? Maybe... it would be extremely painful. And it would have been noted.


The EMTs didn't report setting it, and Zimmerman's hands were cuffed behind his back as soon as the first cop got there.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 9:54:42 AM   
BamaD


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Status: offline 		There's another lawsuit coming out of this case.
More state funds spent.
Man,the people who really love this case are the lawyers and media-it's the gift that keeps on giving

Based on that last, makes you wonder why this case has lurched on all this time. Or even why it became such an issue in the first place.

No it explains why.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 9:54:57 AM   
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Looks like he has a very good case.


Depends on the terms of his employment.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 9:56:08 AM   
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The EMTs didn't report setting it, and Zimmerman's hands were cuffed behind his back as soon as the first cop got there.


So, medically speaking, based upon the 2 photos of Z from that night, what happened to the swelling.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 9:57:01 AM   
BamaD


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Status: offline 		There is one pending against Z for security costs.

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Being acquitted should kill that one. 

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 9:57:55 AM   
Kana


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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There's another lawsuit coming out of this case.
More state funds spent.
Man,the people who really love this case are the lawyers and media-it's the gift that keeps on giving


There is one pending against Z for security costs.

Wait till he unleashes his suits. They are gonna be vast and plentiful.
All those people who tweeted threats.The celebs/news agencies that gave out his private info.The NBC editing.The Sanford politicians forcing the prosecutors to try a case they knew was shit. Not to mention that if O'Mara pursues and wins against the prosecution for withholding evidence, they can potentially lose their prosecutorial shield,which doesn't cover them in cases of malicious misconduct.Meaning they could also be personally liable,just like the duke lacrosse cat was/is.
Fuck-seeing how he's technically a minority, Z has a case that Sanford and the Feds have violated HIS civil rights...

Oh yeah,George, he ain't never gonna work again...

The fired police chief can sue.Perjury charges are flying. The list just goes on and on.It's a lawyers wet dream

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 9:58:28 AM   
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http://judgepedia.org/index.php/Virginia_Magistrates




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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Legally speaking a magistrate is one who sits in the stead of a judge but who only has a small area of expertise that they can deal in, be it child support, warrants, or some other small area.

They cannot take any case that is in the system.



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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 9:59:20 AM   
BamaD


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Do they say he can't reveal when his boss does something illegal?

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 9:59:32 AM   
tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

There is one pending against Z for security costs.

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Being acquitted should kill that one. 


Why would an acquittal kill the cost of security?

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 10:00:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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The EMTs didn't report setting it, and Zimmerman's hands were cuffed behind his back as soon as the first cop got there.


So, medically speaking, based upon the 2 photos of Z from that night, what happened to the swelling.


Well, you see, the nose fairy waved her magic wand.....

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 10:00:44 AM   
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Wait till he unleashes his suits. They are gonna be vast and plentiful.
All those people who tweeted threats.The celebs/news agencies that gave out his private info.The NBC editing.The Sanford politicians forcing the prosecutors to try a case they knew was shit. Not to mention that if O'Mara pursues and wins against the prosecution for withholding evidence, they can potentially lose their prosecutorial shield,which doesn't cover them in cases of malicious misconduct.Meaning they could also be personally liable,just like the duke lacrosse cat was/is.
Fuck-seeing how he's technically a minority, Z has a case that Sanford and the Feds have violated HIS civil rights...

Oh yeah,George, he ain't never gonna work again...

The police chief can sue


And this thread will lurch on forever...

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 10:01:07 AM   
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Wait till he unleashes his suits. They are gonna be vast and plentiful.
All those people who tweeted threats.The celebs/news agencies that gave out his private info.The NBC editing.The Sanford politicians forcing the prosecutors to try a case they knew was shit. Not to mention that if O'Mara pursues and wins against the prosecution for withholding evidence, they can potentially lose their prosecutorial shield,which doesn't cover them in cases of malicious misconduct.Meaning they could also be personally liable,just like the duke lacrosse cat was/is.
Fuck-seeing how he's technically a minority, Z has a case that Sanford and the Feds have violated HIS civil rights...


All depends on how he is viewed. Defamation charges are stricter for public figures than for private citizens.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 10:02:23 AM   
Kana


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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Wait till he unleashes his suits. They are gonna be vast and plentiful.
All those people who tweeted threats.The celebs/news agencies that gave out his private info.The NBC editing.The Sanford politicians forcing the prosecutors to try a case they knew was shit. Not to mention that if O'Mara pursues and wins against the prosecution for withholding evidence, they can potentially lose their prosecutorial shield,which doesn't cover them in cases of malicious misconduct.Meaning they could also be personally liable,just like the duke lacrosse cat was/is.
Fuck-seeing how he's technically a minority, Z has a case that Sanford and the Feds have violated HIS civil rights...


All depends on how he is viewed. Defamation charges are stricter for public figures than for private citizens.

That usually applies more to people who try to become public figures (Athletes actors,musicians,politicians,royalty...),not those inadvertently thrust into the limelight.


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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 10:02:30 AM   
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Well, you see, the nose fairy waved her magic wand.....


And thats why so many were questioning that photo...

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