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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 10:56:01 AM   
tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

No but it should place the responsibility on the state, not Zimmerman.


They hired a private security firm.


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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 10:57:54 AM   
BamaD


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People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 10:58:40 AM   
Powergamz1


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Status: offline 		That's your racist language. And you've made it eminently clear that you think it is funny to post racist rants here, and then deny you posted them repeatedly, and then try to weasel out of your own words with denial.

Bottom line, is that you are still promoting racism. The people calling you out, are working against racism.


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


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ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

Already done, with direct links the last time you lied and claimed you never posted anything about 'fucking illegals'.
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4494465

Must be getting stuffy under that hood, hmmm?

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


quote:

ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

Sure, we know, whenever you post something, you never said it... it's a given, right?

Just like your 'fucking illegals' desperation ploy.

You'll say anything to keep your racist game going.




I posted something, but never said that. You should be able to credibly cite that I did say that, which I did not.

You may also credibly cite where I said anything about 'fucking illegals', you have blown a fuckin head pipe there, and you are confusing your cretinous hallucinations with reality.

Now you say a great deal of really ignorant shit, and you lie comfortably, but can never quite buttress your claims, watery moonbeams of madness that they are.





Ah!!!!! You are fucking profoundly mentally disabled. I did not know.

'fucking illegal throats' is 'fucking illegals'. What language is that?

Shithouse Lawyering 101. Learn to speake Englische as she is goodley spokene.








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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 11:00:00 AM   
tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Still their responsibility


Nope, they didnt enter a contract with the company, Z did.

http://www.businessinsider.com/ais-security-sues-george-zimmerman-2012-12

< Message edited by tazzygirl -- 7/15/2013 11:02:20 AM >

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 11:01:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

The topic is the possibility of federal criminal charges against Zimmerman

And you want to go on record as assuring us that Zimmerman was sued and lost?

You'll make up any lie, to further that racist agenda, won't you?


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


quote:

ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

So you think that federal criminal charges of violating someone's civil rights, are the same thing as a 'civil' case?

What shithouse did you get that from?


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

OJ won the criminal case, but lost the civil case. He aint the onliest one done that.



No genius ex FEDERAL cop. He was sued by the family of one of his alleged victims for being the cause of death and lost.



No, the topic of the post you answered was "OJ won the criminal case, but lost the civil case" You either can't fucking read or you don't know the difference between a "Civil Trial" and a "civil rights trial". I'll give you a hint genius.
One of the 2 is criminal and one isn't with totally different rules of evidence.
If course FEDERAL cop would have known that wouldn't he?



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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 11:02:13 AM   
BamaD


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Status: offline 		Then it is the security company that is suing him? 
If he hired them then of course it is his responsibility.

< Message edited by BamaD -- 7/15/2013 11:05:20 AM >

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 11:04:38 AM   
Powergamz1


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Status: offline 		So, as I predicted, those vigilantes who are unhappy that Zimmerman won't be getting stabbed to death in prison soon, have shifted to recycling every disproven lie about the case from day one, trying to fan the flames that the judge and jury extinguished.

At this level of intensity, I really do have to wonder if any of them are being paid to stay here 24/7 and keep the crosses burning.





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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 11:06:15 AM   
tazzygirl


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Telling me to take Midol wont help your butthurt.
RIP, my demon-child 5-16-11
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Dont judge me because I sin differently than you.
If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 11:06:25 AM   
Powergamz1


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Status: offline 		No, this is the post I answered before someone else conflated civil rights and civil trial.

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4497607


Keep on lying and projecting, maybe they'll reward you with your assistant Grand Wizard robes.


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


quote:

ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

The topic is the possibility of federal criminal charges against Zimmerman

And you want to go on record as assuring us that Zimmerman was sued and lost?

You'll make up any lie, to further that racist agenda, won't you?


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


quote:

ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

So you think that federal criminal charges of violating someone's civil rights, are the same thing as a 'civil' case?

What shithouse did you get that from?


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

OJ won the criminal case, but lost the civil case. He aint the onliest one done that.



No genius ex FEDERAL cop. He was sued by the family of one of his alleged victims for being the cause of death and lost.



No, the topic of the post you answered was "OJ won the criminal case, but lost the civil case" You either can't fucking read or you don't know the difference between a "Civil Trial" and a "civil rights trial". I'll give you a hint genius.
One of the 2 is criminal and one isn't with totally different rules of evidence.
If course FEDERAL cop would have known that wouldn't he?





< Message edited by Powergamz1 -- 7/15/2013 11:09:52 AM >

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 11:08:18 AM   
tazzygirl


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Status: offline 		Oh yes, I am paid thousands of dollars a day just to sit here and stir up your racial anger. Im doing a damn good job too. I deserve a raise!

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Telling me to take Midol wont help your butthurt.
RIP, my demon-child 5-16-11
Duchess of Dissent 1
Dont judge me because I sin differently than you.
If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 11:08:31 AM   
BamaD


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< Message edited by BamaD -- 7/15/2013 11:09:22 AM >

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People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 11:10:20 AM   
mnottertail


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

That's your racist language. And you've made it eminently clear that you think it is funny to post racist rants here, and then deny you posted them repeatedly, and then try to weasel out of your own words with denial.

Bottom line, is that you are still promoting racism. The people calling you out, are working against racism.


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail


quote:

ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

Already done, with direct links the last time you lied and claimed you never posted anything about 'fucking illegals'.
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4494465

Must be getting stuffy under that hood, hmmm?

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail


quote:

ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

Sure, we know, whenever you post something, you never said it... it's a given, right?

Just like your 'fucking illegals' desperation ploy.

You'll say anything to keep your racist game going.




I posted something, but never said that. You should be able to credibly cite that I did say that, which I did not.

You may also credibly cite where I said anything about 'fucking illegals', you have blown a fuckin head pipe there, and you are confusing your cretinous hallucinations with reality.

Now you say a great deal of really ignorant shit, and you lie comfortably, but can never quite buttress your claims, watery moonbeams of madness that they are.





Ah!!!!! You are fucking profoundly mentally disabled. I did not know.

'fucking illegal throats' is 'fucking illegals'. What language is that?

Shithouse Lawyering 101. Learn to speake Englische as she is goodley spokene.









You are the only one posting racist rants, impugning people based on your extremely pathetic language understanding, looks like less than third grade.

Weapons grade stupid shit ain't gonna get you up out of the bottom of the two holer.

But I will give you an overview. Fucking (a word which was freely used in polite society at its inception and meant then what it does now) came to be vulgar (which is interesting, based on what vulgar actually means).

illegal (that was based on your foolish cant that prosecutors may not prosecute with zeal)

throats.........ok, that is; but you are going to have to look this word up; a 'colloquialism'.

I will give you some examples and hope you catch on, but I fear you lack the mental capacity:

Common colloquialisms for lawyers include but are not limited to:

ambulance chaser
esquire
mouthpiece
necktie
throat
briefcase
skirt


and so on.

Try to piece it together, I know you can do it, quit diddling your pud, it may help clear your mind sufficiently to form a simple English concept that has escaped you somewhere about first grade......

fucking illegal throats.


Lawyers, mirable dictu, are not a race, and that is secondary to your inability to understand simple English.

Piece it together wihout spewing your usual cretinous racist asswipe. Racist.




< Message edited by mnottertail -- 7/15/2013 11:11:52 AM >

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 11:12:33 AM   
tazzygirl


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quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

Your first post kind of assumed info I didn't have.  Now I have to agree with you,  damn.


Sucks, dont it?


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Telling me to take Midol wont help your butthurt.
RIP, my demon-child 5-16-11
Duchess of Dissent 1
Dont judge me because I sin differently than you.
If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 11:17:18 AM   
Hillwilliam


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Status: offline 		So you quote one person's post and CLAIM you were actually answering someone else's post that was put up 6 pages ago.

Nice fuckin try. Did they teach you squirming and changing our stories in the academy? You seem to be really good at it.

OK, there are now 3 possibilities.

You're Ignorant

You're illiterate

You're a really sorry liar.


quote:

ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

No, this is the post I answered before someone else conflated civil rights and civil trial.

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4497607


Keep on lying and projecting, maybe they'll reward you with your assistant Grand Wizard robes.


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


quote:

ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

The topic is the possibility of federal criminal charges against Zimmerman

And you want to go on record as assuring us that Zimmerman was sued and lost?

You'll make up any lie, to further that racist agenda, won't you?


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


quote:

ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

So you think that federal criminal charges of violating someone's civil rights, are the same thing as a 'civil' case?

What shithouse did you get that from?


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

OJ won the criminal case, but lost the civil case. He aint the onliest one done that.



No genius ex FEDERAL cop. He was sued by the family of one of his alleged victims for being the cause of death and lost.



No, the topic of the post you answered was "OJ won the criminal case, but lost the civil case" You either can't fucking read or you don't know the difference between a "Civil Trial" and a "civil rights trial". I'll give you a hint genius.
One of the 2 is criminal and one isn't with totally different rules of evidence.
If course FEDERAL cop would have known that wouldn't he?







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Kinkier than a cheap garden hose.

Whoever said "Religion is the opiate of the masses" never heard Right Wing talk radio.

Don't blame me, I voted for Gary Johnson.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 11:18:43 AM   
mnottertail


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Status: offline 		Those are not possibilities. Those are credibly and profusely cited.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 11:20:15 AM   
tazzygirl


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Telling me to take Midol wont help your butthurt.
RIP, my demon-child 5-16-11
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Dont judge me because I sin differently than you.
If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 11:22:49 AM   
mnottertail


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ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

No, this is the post I answered before someone else conflated civil rights and civil trial.




That someone else was you. Nobody else has.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 11:28:41 AM   
Powergamz1


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Status: offline 		Nice try. One little problem... the posts here are numbered, and time stamped... my conversation with Mastercaneman about the chances of a Zimmerman federal trial came *before* anything you are claiming I replied to.

Once again, reality doesn't put up with your shit.


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

So you quote one person's post and CLAIM you were actually answering someone else's post that was put up 6 pages ago.

Nice fuckin try. Did they teach you squirming and changing our stories in the academy? You seem to be really good at it.

OK, there are now 3 possibilities.

You're Ignorant

You're illiterate

You're a really sorry liar.



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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 11:46:37 AM   
MasterCaneman


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ORIGINAL: RacerJim


quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterCaneman

I believe the only reason the Feds are going to push a civil-rights case is to assuage the black community. Nothing more, nothing less, and irregardless of whether or not there really is a case. Like just about everything else about this, it's all smoke and mirrors to placate a population. While I am no fan of Obama, in this case I think he's made the correct call in pushing this. If a civil-rights case is found lacking by a black AG directed to do so by a black President, it will go far in keeping the chance of riots down.

Since DoJ's/FBI's own investigation did not find that Zimmerman had violated any of Martin's Civil Rights and the DoJ sent several people to Stamford FL to aid and abet "Justice For Trayvon" rallies and Zimmerman's arrest and prosecution, IMHO it's going to be kinda difficult for the Feds to push a Civil Rights case.


Which is why they're doing it. Like just about everything else, it's merely another means of soothing a population's butthurt. They're just going through the motions to make everybody feel better. Or buy time/future votes/moral authority/insert your choice of conspiracy theory here. Oh, and to make trial lawyers/media organizations/pundits yachtfuls of money.

< Message edited by MasterCaneman -- 7/15/2013 11:47:26 AM >

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/15/2013 11:51:06 AM   
DomKen


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ORIGINAL: Kana
Yeah.I'm tight with a Crime Scene Tech who is fascinated by this case.We've done a lot of talking. She's appalled at the use of plastic and a few more things (But nowhere near what she feels re the Italians police in the Amanda Knox case-OMG, she gets downright rabid about them,but I digress...). Otherwise, she doesn't see a ton of mistakes.

Ask your friend why basic investigative procedure was not followed. Specifically why a canvas of the entire subdivision was not performed. Which would have identified Martin immediately rather than letting his parents wonder for 3 days. They found a young man with a cell phone, candy and a drink. Even assuming they couldn't simply check the caller ID of the phone the evidence is crystal clear he was likely someone with a destination inside the subdivision. For no other reason than that I know the cops valued this young man differently than they did others.

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