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Edwynn -> RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN (7/15/2013 11:22:42 PM)
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ORIGINAL: BamaD
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ORIGINAL: Kana
(Attempted kidnapping? Really?),what factual evidence are you basing the contention that Z confronted and tried to subdue M on?
Zimmerman's 911 call. "These assholes always get away," as Zimmerman breathes heavily, and the quite audible footsteps along with the commensurate respiration are indisputable evidence of pursuit.
Pursuit has either nefarious or LE meaning behind it, one or the other.
A red sweatshirt-wearing skinhead mumbling nefarious intent would not evince "LEO" to most citizens, certainly not me or anyone I grew up with.
If you are a LEO, then it's called being held for questioning or being under arrest. If you are not a LEO, then it's attempted kidnapping.
That's just how it works.
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Problem one at no point did Zimmerman express any intent to apprehend or hold Martin. Thus it was following not pursuing. Problem two Had he done so it would have been citizens arrest unless he drug Martin away and imprisoned him.Holding someone for the police is not kidnapping That is just how it works.
First, you say that Z had no intent of holding M, then you say that if were were to hold him for the police, then he was in the right.
The fact is that Z knew full well that the police were on the way, and Z was NOT the police, and had no right to 'hold' him, even though evreyone arguing Z's case say that Z was not making any attempt at all to pursue or hold.
You're not the first to say it:
"Zimmerman absolutely did not do it, but he had every right to do it anyway, what he did just up to the incident."
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