Termyn8or
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The best and the brightest are from America, with a few from Asia. But nothing impressive from elsewhere.
UUUMMMMM, that MAY be true now but if you look back at the really major accomplishments, most inventors in the US were either first of second generation off the boat.
See what a couple of generations here does to people ?
Incidentaly about those brightest, there have not really been many inventions in the last 50 years. Almost all innovation now is simply better methods of applying what inventions already exist. In fact much of it is a rehash. I can name MANY that are in your car right now, and other places.
Why people came here is another matter. Many came after WW2 because the wimpy, puppet asshole US government gave their countries away to Russia and thus the Soviet bloc. MacArthur wanted to keep going and he should have ben allowed. there would have been no cold war. But as I have found recently, the US wanted into WW2 and that is why a certain sequence of events happened the way they did. The US is also complicit in the holocaust, because the President refused to allow the Jews to come here. You know what happened then. Millions of them whacked. With the population of the US back then there was plenty of room, a scant few million when we have a hundred million more now. This all indicates that the cold war was good for them, almost as if it was planned.......
But I digress. There were quite a few immigrants from Europe even before WW2, and not all indentured servants. These were people of means, and they could and did afford the fare. They were innovators, inventors and such, and came because the US was still expanding at the time and they saw Europe as stagnating. I am not sure about the intellectual property laws in Europe back then but even then I would bet those of the US were stronger. Of course that has all changed now and that is why no matter from where, these innovators do not desire to come to the US. (I have known MANY immigrants in my time so don't even start)
And finally, we have wrecked the place so badly by not having demonstrations and the like for so many generations it is too late to go back. People seem to have these notions of Europe, that because you need a license for a TV set in England that they are not free. Well nobody is. The only thing the people are failing to fight right now is immigration. People in Europe are, as a whole, much better represented than we. Many have what's called proportional democracies, in which the loser with a good deal of popular support but not a majority, still has power rather than being swept to the sideline like the confetti on the floor.
What's more their representatives are more responsive to the citizenry simply because they have LEARNED that government exists at the consent of the governed. Maybe they did not write it down per se because there was no need. It was common sense. Too many heads have rolled in the past.
The only real heads that have rolled in the US were Lincoln and Kennedy, and both of them were killed by subversive elements, not a popular uprising. In fact they may have been two of the most popular Presidents ever. While FDR bought support by selling the country into debt slavery, the other two did not. And they got killed for it. That should illustrate how long the US has really been ruled by what would have to be termed gangsters.
Everything they taught you about the US is a lie. in fact I can make a pretty good case that England purposely let the colonists win the war of independence, and that 1812 and wwhatever were just for show, or to get rid of misfits. They probably had enough common sense to know that they could never hold the colonies against those colonies' will. They had experience at empire building and I figure that indicates that they knew how to pick their battles.
And it paid off because there was a chance that in merry old England THEY might be speaking German right now if not or those "traitors" in the colonies.
The only problem in Europe as far as any percieved freedom goes is the anti-Semitism laws and holocaust denial laws. A guilt complex does not last fifty years. Those laws were bought and paid for by someone and I doubt it was the Mormons. There are a couple of other problems, like gun control. The fact is that they have less crime because the society is different. Part of it is most people respect the laws and each other much more than in the US. Before the guns were taken away, they never had anywhere near the crime rate we have had.
But they will. As long as those subversive entities convince them to allow excessive immigration they will inherit the problems that we inherited, chiefly because of slavery. Many countries had slaves in the past, the US just seems to be one of the more recent examples. We are still suffering the consequences, though those who perpetrated that abomination suffered not.
You better believe in that spirit in the sky shit because if not, there are alot of people today who need to be slow tortured to death, boiled in bacon grease and such. They are referred to now as the one percent.
The fact is the US is embroiled in a class war and the upper crust is winning. In Europe there seems to be a truce. The rich make money off of the poor, but they know healthy and happy poor are better workers. Lately things are getting worse there as well as the insatiable addiction for power goes unmitigated. Those afflicted literally want every last shilling, penny, whatever though they don't realize once they have it the game is over. The power addiction is also very acute, they want to control every blade of grass. It's just that a different history has resulted in a slightly different type of weapons in the class war.
It will never end until one of the classes is completely gone. Sure they are winning. They are winning so well that there are 99 of us to each of them.
I believe I am quite qualified to classify the one percent as being afflicted (not suffering of course) with an addiction. An irrational, insatiable desire. What is the definition ?
Nobody on this planet is free unless they are completely cut off from civilization. sounds nice but try it sometime.
They get taxed the shit out of, but they get something for their money. the TV tax pays for oversight of the broadcasters. The petrol tax pays partly for medical. That means tha tin a car wreck, a broken arm doesn't result in a fucking six million dollar lawsuit. Things like that indicate that even though they have not codified "freedom", they have enough common sense to have it and use it wisely. It is a whole different world.
They laugh at us. They cannot believe we put up with this government and all the shit they do to us and allow all these companies to do whatever they want. they won't but most of our food, in fact some of it is banned. In fact a bunch of countries outlawed Monsanto's GMO shit and the EU is rtrying to override them in that decision. They should have never joined the EU or the Eurozone, there should also be no GATT, NAFTA or any of this shit. the soverein=gnty of almost every nation is being eroded. The rest are either sending or recieving bombs.
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RE: Who are more free... Americans or Europeans - 
I think it depends on what kinda life you want.. and if money is most important to you or if lifestyle is.. 
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