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Neanderthals Talked Like Us - 7/23/2013 4:17:25 AM

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A very interesting article and great side articles on Neanderthal Man:

Neanderthals Talked Like Us

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RE: Neanderthals Talked Like Us - 7/23/2013 11:02:55 AM

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Thank you so much for sharing that.

I wanted to be an anthropological paeleontologist. I've held a pice of Neanderthal bone in my hand. And it rates as quite simply one of the coolest experiences of my life.

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RE: Neanderthals Talked Like Us - 7/23/2013 11:49:46 AM

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I held a human brain in My hand once. It was kinda rubbery-bouncy and stank of formaldehyde..

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Thank you so much for sharing that.

I wanted to be an anthropological paeleontologist. I've held a pice of Neanderthal bone in my hand. And it rates as quite simply one of the coolest experiences of my life.

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RE: Neanderthals Talked Like Us - 7/23/2013 12:06:39 PM

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I talk to Neanderthals; and their progeny all the time, it is; at the very least, not at all exciting.

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RE: Neanderthals Talked Like Us - 7/23/2013 1:27:20 PM

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I live just half an hour from Neanderthal, we have visited often and I am thinking about doing my internship there.

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RE: Neanderthals Talked Like Us - 7/23/2013 1:46:43 PM

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Neanderthals Talked Like Us

They still do, if the forums are any indication.

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RE: Neanderthals Talked Like Us - 7/23/2013 2:55:10 PM

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Blast. I was going to do that joke.

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RE: Neanderthals Talked Like Us - 7/23/2013 2:59:26 PM

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Bo has a Paleolithic spearhead or hand knife that he found in Barton Creek one day. UT confirmed it at being 5,000 years old. Sucker is still sharp.

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RE: Neanderthals Talked Like Us - 7/23/2013 3:02:20 PM

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"Like us" is relative, back then I doubt we even talked like us...

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RE: Neanderthals Talked Like Us - 7/23/2013 3:46:34 PM

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PoliteSub probably did, though admittedly he was probably still only a toddler back then.

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RE: Neanderthals Talked Like Us - 7/23/2013 5:42:53 PM

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"Like us" is relative, back then I doubt we even talked like us...

Really? You mean they didn't say "bless your heart", or call everyone "sugah", or "yall"?

I'm so disappointed.

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RE: Neanderthals Talked Like Us - 7/24/2013 5:47:30 AM

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I found an interesting, but short snippet showing possible evidence of the progression of language out of africa over 100,000 years ago... I wonder if the number of distinct phonemes correlates to the incorporation of more advanced linguistic/conceptual tools? So that the more streamlined and elegant the communication is made by progressive development, the fewer distinct phonemes it requires to articulate/express the same complexity...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1377150/Every-language-evolved-single-prehistoric-mother-tongue-spoken-Africa.html

Because you'd think it would be getting more complex over time not less...

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RE: Neanderthals Talked Like Us - 7/24/2013 9:42:48 AM

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Fascinating, ty.

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RE: Neanderthals Talked Like Us - 7/24/2013 3:42:23 PM

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I think some of those Neanderthals are STILL talking, on the other side of this site

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RE: Neanderthals Talked Like Us - 7/24/2013 4:08:01 PM

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So am I to understand that the Neanderthals used to speak TEX MEX english?

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RE: Neanderthals Talked Like Us - 7/24/2013 5:20:38 PM

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For some reason, I got this mental image: (note, read this in a snooty, RP English accent)

Caveman #1: "I say, Gort, that is a smashing saber-tooth loincloth you're sporting! Pray tell how you came to acquire such an exquisite piece of kit?

Caveman #2: "But of course, my dear boy! I was with the hunting party on that last mammoth hunt. Dreadful bit of business that was, Snert was gored and Og was trampled, and dash it all, but that bloody mammoth managed to slip our trap! Fortunately, I waited until after the hullabaloo died down and this smashing great cat came by to dine upon our poor cave-mates. Bip and bop, and here I am in my new togs!"

Caveman #1 "Smashing."

Caveman #2 "Indeed."

(edited to correct text-apologies to readers from the Isles-I really don't know the lingo there

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RE: Neanderthals Talked Like Us - 7/25/2013 7:44:29 AM

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Blast. I was going to do that joke.

Well, it's not really a joke.

Let us not forget that in round numbers and that most academia have told us that Cro Magnon spoke, i.e., communicated more specifically and thus with greater tactical performance that ultimately spelled the end of Neanderthal. I am not so sure as Neanderthal was around for at least 150,000 and maybe as long as 500,000 years while Cro Magnon is but a pup at not yet 40,000 years old.

As we should understand by now, among the Homo Sapiens, Neanderthal and Cro Magnon their interbreeding was the world's first miscegenation even though it took us some 5000 more centuries for us to come up with a word for it. Get my drift ?

We are ALL Neanderthal. Here

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RE: Neanderthals Talked Like Us - 7/25/2013 7:58:53 AM

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I found an interesting, but short snippet showing possible evidence of the progression of language out of africa over 100,000 years ago... I wonder if the number of distinct phonemes correlates to the incorporation of more advanced linguistic/conceptual tools? So that the more streamlined and elegant the communication is made by progressive development, the fewer distinct phonemes it requires to articulate/express the same complexity...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1377150/Every-language-evolved-single-prehistoric-mother-tongue-spoken-Africa.html

Because you'd think it would be getting more complex over time not less...

Fascinating article regarding the probable place of the origination of spoken language.
I disagree with one conclusion though. The number of phonemes isn't necessarily indicative of the complexity.
A language could have 200+ phonemes (sounds) and each one is its own word. This would give the entire language something just over 200 words.
Another language could have only 40 or so phonemes but the language has evolved so that the phonemes are combined in a multitude of ways to give 100,000+ words. This is more complexity.
It's like mixing the 3 primary colors to obtain a nearly limitless palette when you are bored with just using your box of 64 crayolas.

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RE: Neanderthals Talked Like Us - 7/25/2013 9:25:54 AM

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RE: Neanderthals Talked Like Us - 7/25/2013 9:57:12 AM

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For some reason, I got this mental image: (note, read this in a snooty, RP English accent)

Caveman #1: "I say, Gort, that is a smashing saber-tooth loincloth you're sporting! Pray tell how you came to acquire such an exquisite piece of kit?

Caveman #2: "But of course, my dear boy! I was with the hunting party on that last mammoth hunt. Dreadful bit of business that was, Snert was gored and Og was trampled, and dash it all, but that bloody mammoth managed to slip our trap! Fortunately, I waited until after the hullabaloo died down and this smashing great cat came by to dine upon our poor cave-mates. Bip and bop, and here I am in my new togs!"

Caveman #1 "Smashing."

Caveman #2 "Indeed."

(edited to correct text-apologies to readers from the Isles-I really don't know the lingo there )

Considering that, according to Hollywood, Neanderthals were brutish, then there is no way they spoke with a British accent, or the Queen's English (how in the hell did she get ownership over a freaking language?)

Now considering that Americans are considered 'uncivilized' by most of the world, and Texans are considered uncivilized by the rest of Americans, (considering the rest of America considers Pork to be good barbeque which is just plain wrong and goes against the teachings of the bible.) it stands to reason Neanderthals spoke Tex-Mex English.

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