UllrsIshtar
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btw.. what logical fallacy did I succumb to in my last post (or post before that). I ask because for me it really is one of those "I HATE when that happens!". I have a tendency to be Miss Cocky Girl when it comes to logic and objectivity, although granted I don't always think things all the way through when I'm doing stream of consciousness type posting. I don't necessarily scrutinize my words for flawed arguments.
IF you claimed that "keeping the material gain proves that the motive for engaging in the act is the material" that's a logical fallacy. It's not really clear from your post if you're advocating that train of thought, or if you're merely suggesting that "if it's not about the material gain, then one of the things you could/should do with the material gain is donate it to charity", which is a valid statement, though it entirely depends on whether or not the person even wants to donate to charity, regardless of where they acquired the funds.
The fact that keeping the material gains is no indication whatsoever of whether or not the material gains are the whole point of the exercise, is because it doesn't address the motive.
If I knit a sweater to give as a present to somebody for Christmas, because I know that's what they want, than the producing of the sweater is the goal/motive of my knitting, and the fact that I happen to enjoy knitting is secondary.
If I enjoy knitting, and therefore produce a bunch of random knitted items that I either give away because I have no use for them, or keep because I do have a use for them, then the goal/motive of my knitting is the knitting in and of itself, and the material gains that I either keep or give away as a result of that are merely a byproduct of me doing something for the fact that I enjoy doing it.
Me keeping my knitwear doesn't imply that the reason I knitted is because I wanted/needed/desired having yet another scarf.
It's the same with financial domination, for me personally. The fact that I keep the stuff I get from it doesn't imply that the stuff in and of itself is the goal. Like with Akasha, I don't need some random online dude's funds to buy me the stuff they buy me. My household income is sufficient to buy any random thing I've gotten through financial domination on a whim, without even thinking about the expense.
If I really wanted the dress/shoes/make-up that bad, I could have simple bought them with a single mouse click, spending less than 5 minutes of the selection and buying process, without causing myself any hardship at all.
Getting the same process through financial domination is a much more time involving, resource eating process. It takes finding a guy, getting to know him sufficiently to desire to dominate him, building that domination relationship, putting in the time and effort to understand his finances, putting in the time and effort to start controlling him in various ways including financially, chatting online and talking on the phone to build and maintain that relationship... by the time you add it all up, I've spend dozens of hours a week on this guy, for something that yields me a payoff of maybe a couple hundred bucks a week at the most if he doesn't have tons of expendable income (which most don't in this economy).
At the amount of time I've put in at that point, I could have gotten myself that same pair of shoes (or whatever) a dozen times over, and still had money left for more AND time left over to spend on other, more productive pursuits..
The whole 'sending random strangers your wishlist and watching the presents roll in' tactic doesn't work*. To build a reliable findomme relationship with somebody that amounts in a regular payoff over the long run takes time, effort, and relationship. Unless the guy is so rich that he's got the expendable income to send you thousands of dollars worth of goods and money every month, having a normal day job that pays relatively well is far more lucrative.
* In fact, it works so poorly that I, as a standard tactic, send my wishlist to any guy who mails me without reading my profile and in whom I am not interested at all because of that. I've found that if I send nothing back, I keep getting repeat mail over and over again, trying again. If I say 'thanks but no thanks' I get called names.
Sending a wishlist with the command 'here, tribute me to show you're worthy of my time and effort' on a first mail is THE best way to ensure you never hear from the guy again, and he instantly blocks you. I've found it THE best tactic to ensure I'm not bothered, or called names, by guys who can't even bother to read my profile, or send an interesting opening mail. Surprisingly sending a wishlist and the demand for 'insta tribute' gets me less name calling than sending a 'thanks but no thanks'.
< Message edited by UllrsIshtar -- 8/1/2013 1:15:31 PM >
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