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I have no idea how competent as a police chief this person is but I can say that he does a very convincing impersonation of a psychopath. He seems to have serious anger management issues too.

So the question for me would be: is this lunatic a suitable person to be a police chief? And the only answer to that question is: Definitely not.

QFT

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ORIGINAL: Aylee
But it looks like from the articles that they were weapons he purchased and fired at a range in Texas while on vacation. All perfectly legal things.

It said "Kessler said he purchased the ammunition and gun with his own money, among the many items he has funded for the police department."

He was using their gun and ammo, regardless of whether he bought them. And is it legal to fire a fully automatic gun at a gun range?

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...what does the town charter and the state constitution say about political affiliations and employment? Because it looks like the angst is NOT over the profanity but instead of semi-political rant he was making. (Okay, it may have been an all political rant.) I thought that there were some protections in regards to civil service and political affiliation.

It can be argued that he was making a terrorist threat.

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Nothing like freedom and common sense in his arguments eh?

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Nothing like freedom and common sense in his arguments eh?

He actually provides a better caricature of a "gun nut" than any "libtard" could create.

And let's not forget the homophobia underlying his view that taking it in the ass is a major insult.

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Nothing like freedom and common sense in his arguments eh?

He actually provides a better caricature of a "gun nut" than any "libtard" could create.

And let's not forget the homophobia underlying his view that taking it in the ass is a major insult.

Did I miss something??

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Constitutional protection of a public employee’s speech depends on whether he was both (1) speaking about a matter of public concern, and (2) speaking as a private citizen. If the answer to either question is “no,” then the employee has no appreciable First Amendment claim.

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That is an interesting point.... the lawsuit they hinted at. It sounded like the Chief is all for it, but the lawyer isnt sure.

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Hmmmm .... "the right person" .... such a shame Sarah P is already spoken for .... and (as I understand them) her religious beliefs prohibit adultery and other "sins against Nature". Otherwise it would be a perfect match!

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Constitutional protection of a public employee’s speech depends on whether he was both (1) speaking about a matter of public concern, and (2) speaking as a private citizen. If the answer to either question is “no,” then the employee has no appreciable First Amendment claim.

How was he speaking as a private citizen when he pointed out he was the chief of police?

Was he punched in and on duty"


4th video down. In full uniform... note the hat.... also note he says "full uniform".... the gun is part of his uniform. Is this still free speech?

Towards the bottom of that link....

According to local media, Kessler also sits on the school board and has formed his own “militia.” We did check out Kessler’s personal website that promotes his own Constitutional Security Force (CSF). Anyone interested in becoming a member must pledge a loyalty oath. It reads:

CSF OATH
I WILL NEVER BETRAY OUR COUNTRY, OUR INTEGRITY, OUR CHARACTER, OUR HONOR
I WILL ALWAYS HAVE THE COURAGE TO HOLD MYSELF AND OTHERS ACCOUNTABLE FOR OUR ACTIONS,
I WILL UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION, OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR COUNTRY IN WHICH WE SERVE, I WILL NEVER SPEAK ILL OF OUR FOUNDING FATHERS, I WILL NEVER DISARM AMERICAN CITIZENS, I WILL NEVER UNLAWFULLY DETAIN AMERICAN CITIZEN, I WILL RESPOND TO THE CALL IF I AM EVER NEEDED TO RESIST TYRANNY THAT SEEKS TO DESTROY OUR REPUBLIC

Whats not to like about that?

The mayor seems to have been unaware of this video when she gave a ringing endorsement.

So was she or wasnt she?

~FR

I said I would post my thoughts on this.

I agree, that he is entitled to his own opinions. I agree the town cannot dictate his beliefs.

The guns he purchased he donated to the town. They are no longer his private property. The title "Chief" he does not own, the town does. He has use of it while in office. Eventually someone else will have the use of it.

Neither does the town, it is an office, just like being a citizen in american is an "office" though as an american you have no rights of an officer as a citizen.

Are you sure he has no connection to ownership? got that paperwork handy?

I think my whole issue is centered around his use of the title in those videos. Someone pointed out how comfortable a liberal would feel being protected by this man. Im not sure too many would.

As far as the video's going viral.... that was his intention. His group wants the recognition... what better way than to place such an incendiary video accompanied but the title he holds in trust?

Wow a video that can burn shit down? Where can I try one?

And where is that trust now?

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he identifies a huge swathe of people he has sworn to protect as retarded and beneath his contempt. He is a disgrace to the position he holds.

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"Free speech" is commonly misunderstood. It holds that the government cannot restrict speech of private individuals. It has exceptions for loudness and obnoxiousness (being a public nuisance) and intent to harm (such as yelling "Fire" in a crowded movie theater).

In the example chosen, the police chief is not a private citizen. He is the public face of a municipality that presumably has rules concerning how its officials present in public. It's standard that employers, public and private, would discipline employees who deliberately break rules about how they present. He does not have to agree with his department's views, but he cannot do so publicly.

He seems too dense to understand that or care. The moron even has his website (http://chiefkessler.com/) in which he claims to have pushed legislation (how the hell can a police chief make laws?) that does nothing more than affirm the second amendment.

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 I think his behaviour in infantile, embarrasing and generally ghastly. I think it brings the police force into disrepute and on that basis alone he should be fired. Quite apart from the fact that he identifies a huge swathe of people he has sworn to protect as retarded and beneath his contempt. He is a disgrace to the position he holds.