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MissToYouRedux -> RE: The cock and your throat (8/28/2013 5:54:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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I don't care for oral sex performed on me. IDK.. feels like what I imagine a snail sliding over my tenderbits


Frigging hell I wish I'd never read that. :-(


No worries. It's not a universal perception. [:D]




MistressDarkArt -> RE: The cock and your throat (8/28/2013 6:07:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Englishrose24

Your partner needs to LEARN to eat out.
Having your pussy devoured is part of life. No female should be without.



It's my preference to be without, despite having (had) several partners who would do that gladly (and skillfully) if it made me happy.




CelticPrince -> RE: The cock and your throat (8/28/2013 7:54:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss


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There are subs that enjoy receiving the ejaculate as a multifaceted fulfilled action. I would submit that those that do a happy to view it as a gift for many reasons.

CP


That is just the thing that selfish guys tell themselves. Go on, keep telling yourself that.


sunshine,

I have been called a few thing in my life by my sub relationships, but selfish is not one of them; and the observation comes from discussion groups that I have participated in.

CP


I wouldn't call you 'selfish' if you only play out this fantasy of your 'semen as a gift' with women who happen to want to partake in that little piece of self-illusion, what I WOULD call you is 'self-absorbed', 'arrogant' 'rude' and 'entitled'.

Not because there are subs out there who like the idea of a mans semen as a "gift he surprises her with" but because you when sexyred very clearly stated that she does NOT view oral as a 'gift' a man bestows on her, but instead sees it as an favor that needs to be returned, and a thing that both parties perform on each other as an equal exchange, you rudely replied by stating: "Then one can assume he has never surprised you with the gift of his seed!"

You thereby not only assumed that she's never sucked a guy to completion, but arrogantly presumed that you are entitled to force your view of "semen as a gift" on her for no other reason than that she happens to be a submissive female, despite the fact that she specifically states she doesn't adhere to your view.

You may not be selfish, but you sure as fuck are self-absorbed enough to presume that the views you hold are the ones everybody needs to adhere to EVEN when they've already VERY clearly stated that they don't.




Ull,

Well so much for my presuming that you would apply objective "logic" to my posts. Your comments are tan gentle to the point of the original point of conversation and I suspect that you take argumentative positions simply because your answering a dominant and you consider yourself as representative of submissiveness.

I never presume anything serious about someone unless their comments are so off the wall that they contribute nothing to the thread and thus Goddess of Logic I would encourage you to take a similar approach........just a suggestion of course.

CP 




MistressDarkArt -> RE: The cock and your throat (8/30/2013 7:38:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince


Well so much for my presuming that you would apply objective "logic" to my posts. Your comments are tan gentle to the point of the original point of conversation and I suspect that you take argumentative positions simply because your answering a dominant and you consider yourself as representative of submissiveness.

I never presume anything serious about someone unless their comments are so off the wall that they contribute nothing to the thread and thus Goddess of Logic I would encourage you to take a similar approach........just a suggestion of course.

CP 


I'd like to contribute something to the thread. I believe the word you were fishing for is 'tangential'. [8|]




CelticPrince -> RE: The cock and your throat (8/31/2013 6:23:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressDarkArt


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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince


Well so much for my presuming that you would apply objective "logic" to my posts. Your comments are tan gentle to the point of the original point of conversation and I suspect that you take argumentative positions simply because your answering a dominant and you consider yourself as representative of submissiveness.

I never presume anything serious about someone unless their comments are so off the wall that they contribute nothing to the thread and thus Goddess of Logic I would encourage you to take a similar approach........just a suggestion of course.

CP 


I'd like to contribute something to the thread. I believe the word you were fishing for is 'tangential'. [8|]



MDA

Good eye! The wonders ofletting spell check do what it wants!

CP




UllrsIshtar -> RE: The cock and your throat (9/1/2013 12:32:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

Ull,

Well so much for my presuming that you would apply objective "logic" to my posts. Your comments are tan gentle to the point of the original point of conversation and I suspect that you take argumentative positions simply because your answering a dominant and you consider yourself as representative of submissiveness.

I never presume anything serious about someone unless their comments are so off the wall that they contribute nothing to the thread and thus Goddess of Logic I would encourage you to take a similar approach........just a suggestion of course.

CP 


So wait... first my answers aren't valid because I'm answering from a Domina's perspective, and now they aren't valid because I consider myself a representation of submissiveness?

When I've already clearly stated on this thread (and stated over and over again on these boards, even back when I was still serving as a TPE slave) that I don't consider myself to be "submissive" at all... not in the least, not in the slightest.

Dude, instead of so eagerly trying to stick labels on me that would allow you to dismiss my posts, maybe you should start by reading what I'm actually saying (and if you must label, me, then at least label me into a group that actually applies to me).

You were incredible rude to sexyred. You should apologize.

The fact THAT you were rude and presumptuous is what triggers this thread to divert from the topic you wanted it to be.

And if you didn't want replies (like mine) from women who don't consider blowjobs a divine gift they're receiving from the dude in question, you should have specified that in the OP.




CelticPrince -> RE: The cock and your throat (9/3/2013 6:49:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar


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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

Ull,

Well so much for my presuming that you would apply objective "logic" to my posts. Your comments are tan gentle to the point of the original point of conversation and I suspect that you take argumentative positions simply because your answering a dominant and you consider yourself as representative of submissiveness.

I never presume anything serious about someone unless their comments are so off the wall that they contribute nothing to the thread and thus Goddess of Logic I would encourage you to take a similar approach........just a suggestion of course.

CP 


So wait... first my answers aren't valid because I'm answering from a Domina's perspective, and now they aren't valid because I consider myself a representation of submissiveness?

When I've already clearly stated on this thread (and stated over and over again on these boards, even back when I was still serving as a TPE slave) that I don't consider myself to be "submissive" at all... not in the least, not in the slightest.

Dude, instead of so eagerly trying to stick labels on me that would allow you to dismiss my posts, maybe you should start by reading what I'm actually saying (and if you must label, me, then at least label me into a group that actually applies to me).

You were incredible rude to sexyred. You should apologize.

The fact THAT you were rude and presumptuous is what triggers this thread to divert from the topic you wanted it to be.

And if you didn't want replies (like mine) from women who don't consider blowjobs a divine gift they're receiving from the dude in question, you should have specified that in the OP.


Ull,

Damn, it is very difficult to attempt to address negative comments from someone that knows zip about you. In a attempt to be as accurate as possible I tried to look at you from the viewpoint of your profile. It cannot be found!!! That is strange for someone whose mind/mouth/fingers appear to be in a know all mode.

It seems also that you choose to alter prior prose posts to suit your current position. When I first read this post you referred to yourself as a "Domina" but now that is gone. Stating that tripped my memory of one of your early replies when I made a wrong assumption that you were a fem "D" based on caps and your sub line Goddess of Logic.


You quickly replied that you were no such thing and inferred that you were a strong submissive. In checking back I see that has been erased also.

So what are you?

Now a few words on your drawing a bead on me on the basis of my comment to Red. Can you show me how that line would suggest that I personally subscribed to that belief? It was no more than throwing out there another issued subscribed by some both "D" and "s". I let your prior comments slide so as to not let the thread lapse into a fight,   but this last bit on elusive commentary from you deserves a reply.

One more point that you made that states the female is always in control when she is engaging in using her mouth on a cock is utter nonsense if  it is a dominant cock. Methinks in total your contributions are reflective on not so much in the age/experience zone as you would like folks to think.

Ull, I have walked the path for longer than you have been on earth, and I have never had a submissive that would not happily rejoin me if the opportunity arose. Not a brag, just fact!

CP




UllrsIshtar -> RE: The cock and your throat (9/3/2013 8:19:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

It seems also that you choose to alter prior prose posts to suit your current position. When I first read this post you referred to yourself as a "Domina" but now that is gone. Stating that tripped my memory of one of your early replies when I made a wrong assumption that you were a fem "D" based on caps and your sub line Goddess of Logic.


You quickly replied that you were no such thing and inferred that you were a strong submissive. In checking back I see that has been erased also.

So what are you?



I never told you I was a "strong submissive" that's an utter lie. I such as fuck never said I was a "Domina" as I don't even use that term.
I explained to you that the subtitle wasn't chosen by me, but by other users. You can't fill in your own subtittle, the moderators do that for you. It's impossible for me to change it myself (not that I'd want to either).

I also never altered my posts to suit my position.

And I told you exactly what I am:


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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar


I was given that moniker by other posters on this forum, because of my tendency to drag formal logic into arguments, and because "Ishtar" which happens to be my name, is the Sumerian Goddess of a whole hoist of things.

I don't call myself "Goddess", nor would I ever want people to seriously address me as such, but considering this is a kink board and there are a bunch of woman who use the honorific "Goddess" to denote Domme status, I understand your confusion (though it's the first time I've realize the subtext could cause that type of confusion).

For future reference, I'm a female who has in the passed served as a TPE 24/7 slave for about 2 years, I currently the closest kink denomination that would fit me is "sadist bottom, who only dates Dominant men as primary partners, but enjoys topping casually".

Not at a "Fem D".


Stop putting words in my mouth.

Just for you I'll unhide my profile temporarily. There you will find the same text that that profile has bore for over 3 years now:

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forget about the little "Dominant" label that this CM profile so openly wears. It doesn't fit me, not completely at least, but then again none of the CM labels really do. However, I had to pick one, so I guess that this one is going to have to be it. None of the labels are a perfect fit for me, though they all apply to me to some degree in relation to specific parts of my life and personality. The reason I've opted for the "Dominant" label over the other ones available is that any addition to our household will strictly relate to me in that fashion.



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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

Now a few words on your drawing a bead on me on the basis of my comment to Red. Can you show me how that line would suggest that I personally subscribed to that belief?



Red said she doesn't consider a blowjob a gift, but something she does to get oral in return. She also said that what she's thinking when she blows a guy is "I'm going to get fucked".

You then said that "you must have never had the gift of his seed".

That was rude, because she already stated that she does NOT view oral as a gift.


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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

One more point that you made that states the female is always in control when she is engaging in using her mouth on a cock is utter nonsense if  it is a dominant cock.


Another blatant lie.

I NEVER said that the female is always in control. Show me where I said that.
What I said is that if you know what you're doing a man can't control his ejaculation (what he can control is his hips, your head, your speed, and so on). But with a guy laying back doing nothing, the ejaculation -or the delay thereof- is something a woman controls. Trust me, if I'm sucking cock (NOT being face fucked, but sucking cock) and I don't want you to come, you ain't going to. Period. No way, no how.

That isn't even close to saying the female is "always" in control.

Stop twisting my words around, and misrepresenting them to say what you THINK I said and learn to fucking read.




sexyred1 -> RE: The cock and your throat (9/3/2013 8:39:36 AM)

Actually, to set the record straight since you keep bringing me into this, I don't engage in blow jobs in order to get oral in return. That would suggest that I did not enjoy giving blow jobs.

I do it because I want to and because my partners love it.

I never have needed or wanted to trade sexual acts to get oral back. I don't even see where you interpreted what I said as that.

I never had a partner who didn't love giving me oral, whether or not there was a blow job involved.

I just meant I don't consider sex acts, semen or submission as gifts, so his reply to me was ridiculous.




M3rel -> RE: The cock and your throat (9/7/2013 2:57:39 AM)

I always just try to get as much in my mouth without hurting him inadvertently with my teeth I love to swallow whole
And I really dislike someone going down on me unless it is more about torture




MistressL2you -> RE: The cock and your throat (9/7/2013 3:55:36 AM)

after reading some of the replies to this I sat back and laughed, it is more than obvious that there are a lot of "vanilla or otherwise" people who have no clue about oral pleasure and what power it gives you. I personally don't get along with a dominant male unless I am taking control of his cock with my mouth. And we all know most males think through their cock. If you know what you are doing you can bring him to his knees or take him to the highest spot, and then drop him without giving him total pleasure. And a good cock sucking can control this for as long as she wants. Oh you seriously have to enjoy what you are focusing on it will become just a boring chore and neither of you will enjoy it. It isn't about the motion, if you think it is you don't know what you are doing. A talented tongue is the key, a talented tongue will open any door, or slam it shut at the right time.

I have met males that leave so much to be desired with their oral skills. And the kicker is they claim to be so good, put your mouth in my crotch and prove it.




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