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RE: Bored in Oklahoma - 9/5/2013 12:40:05 AM   
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Im not arguing with him. In fact, I would say he would agree with me. Seems its now three of you who have issues with hard data.

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RE: Bored in Oklahoma - 9/5/2013 12:40:45 AM   
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To deny that the overwhelming majority of white on black crime in the past 100 years has been racially motivatd is to ignore the facts and is asanine and decietful.


Past 100 years? I dont think I can say that isnt true. History is a bitch, and the 60's were not exactly a nice time for many black people.

Still Thompsox

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RE: Bored in Oklahoma - 9/5/2013 12:45:00 AM   
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I say hate crimes are disgusting no matter who does them you say black hate crimes aren't as bad because they only commit them at twice the rate of white people when they would have to commit them at five time the rate as whites to catch up on gross numbers.

You are reading something into my posts that simply is not there, was never even remotely implied, nor even tried to encourage anyone else to see. I said, based upon numbers, whites commit more racially motivated crimes, and blacks are more often the victims of those crimes. No where did I say either committed lesser crimes in terms of them being less evil or sinister.


And yet you claim that white on black is the main problem




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RE: Bored in Oklahoma - 9/5/2013 12:49:49 AM   
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A topic that was never once addressed, and has no place in the discussion of hate crimes. A good deed negates a bad one? Really? 20 white people can help 20 black people, and only 1 white person kills a black person because of his skin color, and the death is negated because of the good deeds of others? Really?


I was drawing a parallel you can no more say anything about white people in general from either the good or the bad
And please point out where I said it canceled out hate crimes

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RE: Bored in Oklahoma - 9/5/2013 12:53:20 AM   
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Please explain how in the last figures you quoted whites alone committee more hate crimes that you first set had committed by whites and Hispanics combined

If you figures are to be believed Hispanics commit a negative number of hates crimes

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RE: Bored in Oklahoma - 9/5/2013 12:57:59 AM   
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You seem to insist that because they are not equally represented based upon total population, that white hate crimes arent "really as bad" as black hate crimes in numbers. I find that laughable.

Just because you read it that way doesn't mean it is what I said.
Particularly since I have repeatedly said that one is too many and that ALL hate crimes are vile and disgusting.

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RE: Bored in Oklahoma - 9/5/2013 12:59:49 AM   
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Please explain how in the last figures you quoted whites alone committee more hate crimes that you first set had committed by whites and Hispanics combined

If you figures are to be believed Hispanics commit a negative number of hates crimes


I did... go back and look at the bolded parts again.



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RE: Bored in Oklahoma - 9/5/2013 1:00:21 AM   
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A topic that was never once addressed, and has no place in the discussion of hate crimes.

They forgot to notify me that you had been given the authority to decide what examples I can an cannot use

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RE: Bored in Oklahoma - 9/5/2013 1:01:59 AM   
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Please explain how in the last figures you quoted whites alone committee more hate crimes that you first set had committed by whites and Hispanics combined

If you figures are to be believed Hispanics commit a negative number of hates crimes


I did... go back and look at the bolded parts again.



Yep you went back to the original figures when caught posting trash

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RE: Bored in Oklahoma - 9/5/2013 1:03:05 AM   
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No one posted trash. I cited sources every step of the way... If you cant read a source, dont blame me. You lied, got caught in your lie, then are trying to slam me because you didnt fucking read what you were given.

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RE: Bored in Oklahoma - 9/5/2013 1:04:42 AM   
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They forgot to notify me that you had been given the authority to decide what examples I can an cannot use


Ok.. then your examples are fucking useless and have no place in a discussion with me on this topic. And I damn well have the right to decide what I am going to discuss.

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RE: Bored in Oklahoma - 9/5/2013 3:50:53 AM   
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Given that the number of hate crimes committed by a group four times as large holds a lower ratio position than the much smaller group, what does that say? Put another way, it's interesting that a group, being 4x larger, commits nearly half as many hate crimes as the smaller.




Yep still convoluted.

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RE: Bored in Oklahoma - 9/5/2013 3:53:05 AM   
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LOL... and the FBI said more whites are the perpetrators. Numbers dont lie.... twisting them into some warped statistical analysis does.


Its the denial of racism that gets me, anything to prove that aint the case M`lud.

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RE: Bored in Oklahoma - 9/5/2013 3:54:55 AM   
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WHO COMMITS HATE CRIMES?

out of all the hate crimes committed in the US, white people commit the most.

If a man with 8 white rabbits and 2 brown rabbits, all of which produce the same amount of waste, repeatedly insists that "white rabbits make the most shit," we might be inclined to suspect that he harbors some ill feeling toward white rabbits, because the reason there is more white-rabbit shit is because there are more white rabbits, not because "white rabbits make the most shit".

K.




Just what we need to clear the issue up, another shit post.

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RE: Bored in Oklahoma - 9/5/2013 6:42:12 AM   
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No one posted trash. I cited sources every step of the way... If you cant read a source, dont blame me. You lied, got caught in your lie, then are trying to slam me because you didnt fucking read what you were given.

And what lie does your delusion say I told
A Calling someone a liar violates TOS
B Using your own source I have demonstrated that while the definition of lie does not include liar the definition of liar is one who tells lies

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RE: Bored in Oklahoma - 9/5/2013 6:44:25 AM   
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You cannot understand any thing if it doesn't agree with you

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RE: Bored in Oklahoma - 9/5/2013 6:45:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

WHO COMMITS HATE CRIMES?

out of all the hate crimes committed in the US, white people commit the most.

If a man with 8 white rabbits and 2 brown rabbits, all of which produce the same amount of waste, repeatedly insists that "white rabbits make the most shit," we might be inclined to suspect that he harbors some ill feeling toward white rabbits, because the reason there is more white-rabbit shit is because there are more white rabbits, not because "white rabbits make the most shit".

K.




Just what we need to clear the issue up, another shit post.


So you made one


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RE: Bored in Oklahoma - 9/5/2013 7:03:19 AM   
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To deny that the overwhelming majority of white on black crime in the past 100 years has been racially motivated?


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What happened 100 years ago is irrelevant


Only to the most peurile moron.
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Todays figures turn it around


The spin you wish to attach does but not the facts.

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RE: Bored in Oklahoma - 9/5/2013 7:08:15 AM   
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If two groups are equally disposed toward violence and hate, we would expect to see them represented among criminal offenders at rates reflecting their percentage of the population. In other words, given a population that is 72.4% white and 12.6% black, we would expect to find that criminal offenders are about 72.4% white and 12.6% black.


This would be true if and only if there social/economic parity between the two groups which we all know is not the case,thus this analogy is not valid.

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What point is there to be made by insisting that whites commit more crimes in such a context? And most especially, what point is there to be made by insisting that whites commit more crimes when in fact white offenders are under-represented in virtually every crime category except drunkeness.

Perhaps it migt beuseful to compare like with like. Here you have shifted from crimes of "violence and hate" to public drunkeness.

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Take your 'eeeevil white people' shit and shove it.


How many white people have been lynched by blacks in the past 100 years?

K.







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RE: Bored in Oklahoma - 9/5/2013 7:10:27 AM   
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[quote]The issue here is that some think that all crime that is black on white is racially motivated.


I disagree. All black on white crime isnt racially motivated.


Perhaps a quick refresher in english grammar.




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