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SerWhiteTiger -> RE: Strange that this never hit the forum.... (8/27/2013 12:40:18 AM)
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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
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ORIGINAL: SerWhiteTiger
I can't believe anyone would honestly suggest that children are so hopelessly gone that they must be extinguished. Also, he said to televise it to other children so that they learn from it.
Look, I worked in law enforcement, and I will say this, the penal system does nothing but warehouse the little bastards. It does not "teach them a lesson" nor does it rehabilitate.
The percentage of violent youthful offenders that actually get their act together and change is almost negligible.
And yes, I said televise it, or have every punk with a history of violence witness it in person. I am not saying it will cause them to repent, but it will show them what the fuck they have to look forward to.
I am sick to death of people saying that these teenagers are just "misunderstood," or any other excuse.
Besides, the death penalty is supported in the bible, for those christians against the death penalty.
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Ecclesiastes 8:11
Because the sentence against an evil deed is not executed speedily, the heart of the children of man is fully set to do evil.
Exodus 21:12
“Whoever strikes a man so that he dies shall be put to death.
These gang bangers and street thugs are beyond redemption. You aint going to turn them around and set them on the road to being good, law abiding individuals. They are little more than animals, preying on the weak, sick and elderly. In other words they are predators, and predators of this sort do not change, they get worse.
Solution is simple, eliminate the threat. And forget the cruel and unusual punishment crap, execute these animals in the most painful, torturous way possible.
You're putting a lot of words into my mouth.
I realize that the penal system is completely and totally useless as a way to rehabilitate these children. You're suggesting something that is a change to the system (televised execution). I am simply wondering, if we're looking for a better solution, maybe something other than televised execution might be the answer. Televised execution might be an improvement to the current situation, but it seems pretty draconian. They're children. Maybe there isn't a better solution. I dunno. Shouldn't we at least be looking?
I never claimed these children were misunderstood.
I've never been any kind of religious.
And then, after we go through all of that, we come to your true point of view, which is that these children are beyond redemption. I'm not saying they aren't. I don't claim to know. It's pretty callous not to look for other solutions though. OTOH, I can understand how working in law enforcement would make you pretty callous to these types of people. I do wonder if televised execution might actually make things worse and not better though. You're thinking about the other gang bangers and street thugs when you suggest this and not considering the 4 year olds whose retarded parents actually let them watch a televised execution, making them callous and uncaring towards the murder of others. If these children are beyond redemption, we need to be focusing on the younger children before they become beyond redemption, and there is simply no way that televised execution has a positive effect on those younger children.
How does executing them in the most painful and torturous way possible do anything other than entertain sadists? You call them animals. Do you also think that a feral dog should be killed in the most painful and torturous way possible?
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