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DarkSteven -> RE: Suggestion for CM (10/5/2013 2:40:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TnCuck4Mistress

I think everyone is misunderstanding me here... Your real information would never be open to other members other then have a text or image on your profile saying verified. Anyone that has an issue with that is the type of person I would avoid because they are clearing hiding something or are doing something wrong.


I'd have several issues with it.

1. I would never release my info to collarme. The staff is stretched thin anyway, and I wouldn't trust them to keep my info secure as an additional task. The volunteer staff right now does not need to be tremendously computer capable, so the chance of a security breach is pretty good.
2. It would be pretty easy to provide false info to get around this safeguard.
3. The rate of voluntary compliance would be pretty low. Most would be too lazy or too afraid of data breach.

Avoid me all you want. I'm hiding my personal ID, and have a right to. No, despite what you say, I am not doing anything wrong.




TigressLily -> RE: Suggestion for CM (10/5/2013 2:45:26 PM)


^ Ah, there you are--you must have felt your ears (eyes?) burning. It's the Absolutely Dumbest Things, which qualifies all the more. (Your timing couldn't be more apropos http://www.collarchat.com/m_4559477/mpage_1/tm.htm.)

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jlf1961 -> RE: Suggestion for CM (10/5/2013 2:50:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TigressLily


^ Ah, there you are--you must have felt your ears (eyes?) burning. It's the Absolutely Dumbest Things, which qualifies all the more. (Your timing couldn't be more apropos http://www.collarchat.com/m_4559477/mpage_1/tm.htm.)

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TigressLily -> RE: Suggestion for CM (10/5/2013 2:59:33 PM)


Why, do you have a problem with that? Wasn't directed at you. All in good fun, to lighten up the mood--or to cut to the chase.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Do people on this site have a problem with sarcasm?



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jlf1961 -> RE: Suggestion for CM (10/5/2013 3:01:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TigressLily


Why, do you have a problem with that? Wasn't directed at you. All in good fun, to lighten up the mood--or to cut to the chase.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Do people on this site have a problem with sarcasm?



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Sorry, I read it wrong.

In my defense on the pepper thing, I actually use a pinch of ghost chili powder in my chili.




TigressLily -> RE: Suggestion for CM (10/5/2013 3:08:39 PM)


Not to get off topic, but I saw your opening post and it reminded me of the time I gave my son a Devil Spit Pickle at a Famous Dave's rib place, since he loves pickles. Not knowing it would set his mouth on fire. To this day, he still accuses me of having done that on purpose.

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freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Suggestion for CM (10/5/2013 3:17:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven


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ORIGINAL: TnCuck4Mistress

I think everyone is misunderstanding me here... Your real information would never be open to other members other then have a text or image on your profile saying verified. Anyone that has an issue with that is the type of person I would avoid because they are clearing hiding something or are doing something wrong.


I'd have several issues with it.

1. I would never release my info to collarme. The staff is stretched thin anyway, and I wouldn't trust them to keep my info secure as an additional task. The volunteer staff right now does not need to be tremendously computer capable, so the chance of a security breach is pretty good.
2. It would be pretty easy to provide false info to get around this safeguard.
3. The rate of voluntary compliance would be pretty low. Most would be too lazy or too afraid of data breach.

Avoid me all you want. I'm hiding my personal ID, and have a right to. No, despite what you say, I am not doing anything wrong.

I'm with DS on this.

Also, just because other members can't see it, the mere fact that you have to supply that sort of info makes it vulnerable to any security breach. And that means your personal info is available to anyone that does steal it.

OP seems too have a very narrow and blinkered idealogy as to how safe the info is once it's given.
And just because they don't have issue with their details being used against them doesn't mean that the vast majority of users share the same PoV.

It wouldn't be the first time that money is stolen from credit cards and bank accounts, have your credit rating plummet through the floor so you can't get credit or have a mortgage any more or even be trusted to rent something because your rating is just shit because of the stolen info being used by crooks.
What if those companies won't replace your credit/debit cards and sue you for the outstanding balance?
What if the mortgage company forcloses because they now consider you a very bad risk?
What if you suddenly get fired from your job because you have now been exposed to the world as a pedofile spending $$'s on kiddie porn sites?
Repairing your credit rating can take years to rebuild. It's not just a case of replacing your credit cards.




SerWhiteTiger -> RE: Suggestion for CM (10/5/2013 4:13:55 PM)

This is more in response to the other thread, but 0% of attractive profiles are fake. The fakes don't put enough work into their profiles to be attractive. Maybe if you're shallow enough to only care about the picture though.




subvers1ve -> RE: Suggestion for CM (10/7/2013 2:35:00 AM)

I must say as someone fairly new here, I have started to wonder about the authenticity of some profiles (quite a lot actually) but I have nothing to compare them to lol

That said I'm not particularly hoping to meet someone off here (although I wouldn't turn down the opportunity) events and clubs I suspect provide a much better likelihood of success




NoBimbosAllowed -> RE: Suggestion for CM (10/7/2013 3:04:15 AM)

great replies, Tiger Lil, and please bear in mind that in the other thread I am merely debating. Pretty much, here, all I can say is "yeah, yes" and "civil war rein-actors? WTF?"

one of the problems I see here is that the people with the most to gain from asking other members to front up ID info are the people who themselves might be a bit fake.

People that might be wanting to interact with people for a short time and then it turns out that they render 'professional' services of some sort.

And who'd like to make sure that people dealing with them might be well and truly able to take interaction from the casual/social to 'something else'.




DarkSteven -> RE: Suggestion for CM (10/7/2013 5:30:49 AM)


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ORIGINAL: subvers1ve

I must say as someone fairly new here, I have started to wonder about the authenticity of some profiles (quite a lot actually) but I have nothing to compare them to lol

That said I'm not particularly hoping to meet someone off here (although I wouldn't turn down the opportunity) events and clubs I suspect provide a much better likelihood of success

Here are a few typical things in a fake profile:

A single pic, of a gorgeous woman, obviously posed.
Someone seeking something vague like “a good and honest Master.”
Poor writing and spelling. (This by itself bothers me. If I were looking for a sub, I'd want someone who cares about her work.)
Willingness to relocate.
Use of “Am a…” instead of “I am a…”
Either no discussion of the lifestyle at all, or equating D/s with kinky sex.
Focus on trivia (some discuss the kinds of food they've prepared).
No selection criteria, such as "I prefer ages 35-55".

If you want to see a real profile for comparison, just pick anyone in the forum and view his or her profile.




TigressLily -> RE: Suggestion for CM (10/7/2013 6:55:49 AM)


Any helpful hints re male sub profiles as opposed to female profiles or those of Doms, per your listing? The ones I bother to view aren't fake so much as plain unappealing.

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Here are a few typical things in a fake profile:

A single pic, of a gorgeous woman, obviously posed

Always a good idea to be wary of those, for sure. Even if it's a natural pose, could still be a stolen pic.
(Most of the ones I see are of nude body shots done in all sorts of weird-*ss poses. Not fake, just atrocious.)


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Someone seeking something vague like “a good and honest Master.”

(Almost any Domme will do as long as she's a female--straight, lesbian, bi, it doesn't matter.)

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Poor writing and spelling. (This by itself bothers me. If I were looking for a sub, I'd want someone who cares about her work.)

Yeah, it's always nice if they can put sentences together without butchering the English language. (I don't count this against foreigners though. The simple fact that they're in a foreign country is already a deal breaker for me.)

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Willingness to relocate.

More so with a female profile, but not so suspect within the States. Definitely anyone in a foreign country, not so much due to phoniness with males, as much as the lure of a green card and an American benefactor. Particularly the slaves who are hoping they can barter their services for a live-in housing situation.

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Use of “Am a…” instead of “I am a…”

How so, DS? I sometimes drop my pronouns.

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Either no discussion of the lifestyle at all, or equating D/s with kinky sex.

Come on, virtually all the males on this site do, whether it's explicitly stated within their profile or not. But yes, it does show some class when the emphasis isn't on the fetishes/kinks. Which is rare, indeed.

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Focus on trivia (some discuss the kinds of food they've prepared).

Do you mean there's excess trivia? TMI? How does that raise a red flag, necessarily?

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No selection criteria, such as "I prefer ages 35-55".

For female profiles, that's an excellent clue.
(With male profiles, most of them don't seem to care and deliberately want to keep as many options open as possible).



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DarkSteven -> RE: Suggestion for CM (10/7/2013 7:13:50 AM)

TigressLily, I sent you a PM with examples.




peppermint -> RE: Suggestion for CM (10/7/2013 7:33:17 AM)


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ORIGINAL: TnCuck4Mistress

Hello,

Its just a thought & why should anyone have a problem with it unless they are not who they claim to be. I have nothing to hide myself.


As other ladies here have said, if I have to prove who I am I'll be gone. I have worked very hard to make sure I leave a fairly untraceable trail on the internet. I certainly will not give some internet site the information on a legal ID. Big corporations and banks do get electronically broken into. Things I like to hide are my real name, phone number, and address. Strangers on the internet have no rights to any of that.






Liliput -> RE: Suggestion for CM (10/7/2013 9:06:17 AM)

I have been having nothing but bad luck connecting with those I have met on here. Either they will act as if they are interested and then it goes no farther than texting. I met someone I thought was the ral deal last week and we seemed to hit it off very well, we seemed to have many common interests. We were supposed to meet on Saturday for dinner and conversation and to see if there was chemistry between us. I spent allot of money preparing for our date. I got a mani/pedi, new sexy underclothes (just in case) and a cute skirt and new sandals. Last Text I received from him was " I will see you at 5:30" Then I never heard from him again. I went to the place where we were supposed to meet and he never showed up and still I haven't heard from him since. Of coarse something terrible could have happened to him and I hope not, I hope he just turned out to be yet another FAKE asshole. I just have a feeling that this is what this guy does repeatedly to other submissives, Plays like he has common interests with you, claims he wants to take you here and there and spend all of this time with you, claims he has a feeling that you are "The one" blah blah blah then deliberately stands them up because he just dont have a life of his own and nothing better to do. I can understand breaking a date or deciding not to meet someone, I have done it myself a few times for different reasons but I always let them know in advance and dont tell them to meet me somewhere then dont show up. Man I wish those dogs would fall off the earth!!




kalikshama -> RE: Suggestion for CM (10/7/2013 10:21:54 AM)

Sweetie, this isn't unique to CM :)

I think you might get some good advice if you start a thread about this in Ask a Submissive. I'll chime in there, but don't want to derail this thread as it's not an issue with "fakes" but with rude behavior from people one meets online.




KYsissy -> RE: Suggestion for CM (10/20/2013 2:43:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

TigressLily, I sent you a PM with examples.


Was mine in that email? It is probably terrible and i have not touched it since i made it so it would probably serve as a fine examplr of a bad profile.
But on the other hand, i keep getting messages from cute lil 20 something Dommes from far away places so maybe I am doing something right.




KYsissy -> RE: Suggestion for CM (10/20/2013 2:47:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Liliput

I have been having nothing but bad luck connecting with those I have met on here. Either they will act as if they are interested and then it goes no farther than texting. I met someone I thought was the ral deal last week and we seemed to hit it off very well, we seemed to have many common interests. We were supposed to meet on Saturday for dinner and conversation and to see if there was chemistry between us. I spent allot of money preparing for our date. I got a mani/pedi, new sexy underclothes (just in case) and a cute skirt and new sandals. Last Text I received from him was " I will see you at 5:30" Then I never heard from him again. I went to the place where we were supposed to meet and he never showed up and still I haven't heard from him since. Of coarse something terrible could have happened to him and I hope not, I hope he just turned out to be yet another FAKE asshole. I just have a feeling that this is what this guy does repeatedly to other submissives, Plays like he has common interests with you, claims he wants to take you here and there and spend all of this time with you, claims he has a feeling that you are "The one" blah blah blah then deliberately stands them up because he just dont have a life of his own and nothing better to do. I can understand breaking a date or deciding not to meet someone, I have done it myself a few times for different reasons but I always let them know in advance and dont tell them to meet me somewhere then dont show up. Man I wish those dogs would fall off the earth!!


Gawd that sux!!! Something wrong in the world when a pretty girl gets stood up. If only i lived in Michigan ...... And was dominant.




DsCouple23 -> RE: Suggestion for CM (11/12/2013 9:04:03 AM)

On another note, before i start my day. I would say roughly 75% of Slave profiles are fake, thats where i discover the largest amount of fakes. Submissives, i would say 50%. Much less probability.
Also if they have a clear face pic, or are very attractive- 90% chance of being fake, sub or slave. What i do is go through and just hide all the fakes... theyre easy to spot. It cuts down on messages i write, cuts down on waste of time. Within the first conversation, i can figure out if they are fake or not usually. Sometimes it takes up to 1 week. Overall, i have met about 5 people off of this site in about 1 year's time. All Sub's. I've never even chatted with a "real" verified slave off of CM. What's interesting is, on the male side, if you are a male sub, there is an ABUNDANCE of these men, hence, it becomes a pick and choose for female dominants, and women on the whole.

Imagine this.

You are an average looking woman who gets an average amount of attention from men in the real world.

You sign up for CM, put a few non face pictures that showcase the best parts of you...

All of a sudden, you get bombarded with messages. Even though the profile says you are "submissive"

You get a ton of messages from:
1. Submissive men of all ages, begging you to do different things
2. Dominant men of all ages (lots of these too, competition is fierce)
3. A moderate amount of messages from Female Dominants.

All of a sudden you have 10 pages of messages in the 1st hour! If I was a girl (and my girl had a profile on here before, i went through the history), i would pick and choose to the 10000th degree.

Why?

Because you can.

I think anyone that thinks otherwise is lying to themselves.

As long as someone understands all of this... they have a shot wrangling a "submissive", getting a slave is in my opinion much more difficult, less supply, tons of demand.
Also profiles without pictures tend to be more real than those with pictures.

Thoughts anyone?




HoneyBears -> RE: Suggestion for CM (11/12/2013 12:56:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DsCouple23

On another note, before i start my day. I would say roughly 75% of Slave profiles are fake, thats where i discover the largest amount of fakes. Submissives, i would say 50%. Much less probability.
Also if they have a clear face pic, or are very attractive- 90% chance of being fake, sub or slave. What i do is go through and just hide all the fakes... theyre easy to spot. It cuts down on messages i write, cuts down on waste of time. Within the first conversation, i can figure out if they are fake or not usually. Sometimes it takes up to 1 week. Overall, i have met about 5 people off of this site in about 1 year's time. All Sub's. I've never even chatted with a "real" verified slave off of CM. What's interesting is, on the male side, if you are a male sub, there is an ABUNDANCE of these men, hence, it becomes a pick and choose for female dominants, and women on the whole.

Imagine this.

You are an average looking woman who gets an average amount of attention from men in the real world.

You sign up for CM, put a few non face pictures that showcase the best parts of you...

All of a sudden, you get bombarded with messages. Even though the profile says you are "submissive"

You get a ton of messages from:
1. Submissive men of all ages, begging you to do different things
2. Dominant men of all ages (lots of these too, competition is fierce)
3. A moderate amount of messages from Female Dominants.

All of a sudden you have 10 pages of messages in the 1st hour! If I was a girl (and my girl had a profile on here before, i went through the history), i would pick and choose to the 10000th degree.

Why?

Because you can.

I think anyone that thinks otherwise is lying to themselves.

As long as someone understands all of this... they have a shot wrangling a "submissive", getting a slave is in my opinion much more difficult, less supply, tons of demand.
Also profiles without pictures tend to be more real than those with pictures.

Thoughts anyone?

The fact that you are a couple prompted this response about your observations.
We are also a dominant/switch couple (but not interested in finding a third).
When I had a CM domme profile, I soon discovered males calling themselves slaves meant basically two things in the 80-90% range.
One is those intent on finding a fetish delivery system in exchange for room and board. 1-2 primary fetishes or kinks.

The other was that they should have listed themselves as subs rather than slaves because they had never had a Mistress before.
While you say fake, I lean more toward considering these subs inexperienced newbies.
Meaning the limit of their experience is watching FemDom porn for wank fodder. Fantasyville.
These are the ones most likely to flake off or be no-shows for that first intro or inspection meeting.
The experienced slaves send out long, drawn-out form letters in minute detail. Pfft.

I cannot comment on results for female subs or slaves, which is what you both are seeking,
other than what bi/lesbian friends have told me (about bi/lesbian subs).
More than 50% of male subs are not for real, more like 75-80%, since many are married or seeking on-line kicks.
(This does not make much of a difference to fin-dommes or pro-dommes, but it does to most other dommes.
After all, BDSM is more of a business to them as opposed to a private lifestyle.
I have no issue with those who operate a business under the guise of D/s
other than do not act like you [in general] are not a BDSM provider delivery system.)

Most often, I had no idea what these off-the-wall subs looked like,
other than photos of body parts which should have been kept under wraps.
About a third of those I asked (1%?) balked at sending a facial pic.

Do not lose heart. It is a sifting process, and there is no way around it.
I did not find my lover (straight male switch/80-85%sub) here, but that does not mean you will not have better results.
By the way, you are a MF couple but your avatar does not reflect that. [&:]

Edited: A good number of female profiles - whether sub/slave, domme or switch -- straight/bi/lesbian -
are not those of actual females but of males, I have learned from others.




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