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RE: question about Tribute - 4/17/2004 2:24:24 PM   
ShadeDiva


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ORIGINAL: LadyBeckett
track by now. I'm going to go re-do my profile and install a paypal link


Just remember now ...*smile* PayPal *will* freeze your account if you do so and someone reports you for it. (knows you were just kidding, lol)

It *is*, however, against PayPal, StormPay and most payment centers T.O.S. and rules these days to be used for ANY adult transactions *especially* when in regard to *tributes*, *gifts*, *domination*, *sex*, *sessions*, *scenes*, *service*, etc. And yeah they know all the words and terms by now, the tribute thing pretty much seared that knowledge into their companys collective brains.

Soooooooooooo yanno - you don't like the issue, and you see someone touting PayPal or the like and you want to do something about it? Report em and the link or profile and site you saw it on. They will freeze their account, and if they get enough reports, they will ban the person completely. And btw, when they freeze the account, that means every cent they have in there is frozen right along with it - sends a pretty hefty little message.

The *only* way there will be less of them is when there are less avenues for them to collect money with and they start learning that when a company says its against their TOS they MEAN it, and if they blithly go around breaking thoise rules, they WILL get nabbed for it, they will start looking for better ways to earn cash - like *gasp!* working! lol.

Just thought folks might not be aware that indeed using PayPal for that is in direct violation for what PayPal allows it's services to be used for, and that they *do* take it seriously, and they *will* act on it.

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RE: question about Tribute - 4/17/2004 4:39:45 PM   
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(Is that laughing? Maybe LOL is better.) Maybe if I looked Ok in a skirt someone would pay me too.:) Hey, I didn't think of that. I can bilk money from lonely guys and stay annoymous behing the internet. Hey, can I get a Mistress's permission to use her picture for Iwilldominateu.

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RE: question about Tribute - 4/17/2004 4:45:28 PM   
iwillserveu


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You must've posted the same time as me.

The problem with attacking them via paypal is that will just open up another method. (Just because I can't think of a good one doesn't mean they don't exist.) Like damning a river. The water flows around the obstruction.

Same thing for the "war" on drugs.

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RE: question about Tribute - 4/17/2004 5:30:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SternMistress

I can't imagine why a decent dominant would spend her days looking for and approaching subs to ask for money.
Ask yourself this -
Shouldn't a Dominant have more dignity than this?
As a pro, I would never, ever, approach a sub.
My own feeling is that I should let subs/slaves/sissies know I'm here. No more.
I do have a living to make, but not at the expense of my dignity and integrity.
My advice to subs would be delete any mail from a so called domme who approaches you in this way.



<resounding applause>

That goes for the flakes that ask for tribute for a telephone consultation before they will consider a real appointment with you. Even if they WILL eventually meet you (and the prognosis for this is not good) their dignity and integrity are questionable. They are probably not worth the trouble to meet anyway.

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RE: question about Tribute - 4/25/2004 5:50:11 AM   
ShadeDiva


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ORIGINAL: iwillserveu
The problem with attacking them via paypal is that will just open up another method


Actually - quite the opposite.

I spoke to many PayPal representitives about thier struggle dealing with the moneydomme trend - it was something that intrigued me, exactly how where they dealing with all those compliants?

They were SWAMPED. They literally had to open another department to handle the endless complaints of I was hacked and she took all my money, and I didnt buy that! Their fraud complaints were through the roof - mostly because the majority of these types have no ethics or morals and yes will empty someone's account in the blink of an eye.

The companies with major banks behind them couldn't handle the load - pure and simple - and they buckled under that along with the other issues that adult transactions carry with them. Sure a few of them are cropping up to take their pace, but they don't have nearly the same stability the original payment services had. I've seen about a half dozen blink into existence and just about as quickly blink out of existence.

This is a limited trend - and they are doing quite a bit themselves to hasten their trend all by themselves due to their own actions. In two years this won't be such a huge thing as it plays itself out - it's nearly there as it is. Most of the PSO's that flooded it are headed back to where the money is, they know it's been played out. And it has. So many folks doing strip shows and sex shows and calling it domination has created a bevvie of guys that really do think that IS what domination IS - and the very creatures they created are what they can't stand, ironic isn't it? The upshot of that is those types of guys ain't the paying kind really, they are just looking for pud pulling material or free abuse, they get those girls to spew loads of abusuve langiage at them just like want, and the chicks that do it are too clueless to see they are feeding the guys the exact thing they came to get in the first place. Perverta or whatever from what I could tell from the quotes that weren't deleted seems to be on that same mindset - bitchy and abusive equates dominance.

Just yanno that sort of thing has a serious burn out factor.

Their clock is ticking. They most likely don't see it, but it is. Pretty soon there simply won't be any way for them to collect - and as such they will bail for better marks. Just like the beasties - if there isn't anything to feed off, they will move on to better hunting grounds.

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RE: question about Tribute - 4/25/2004 7:15:23 AM   
iwillserveu


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Status: offline 		Oh i agree, but when PayPal acts however it acts then "creditfriend" opens up. Like attacking Napster only opened the road for Kaaza.

Besides they'd have to outlaw P.O. Boxes. (If anyone actualy thinks that is a good route, a vengeful, ripped-off sub can stake out a P.O. box easily.)

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RE: question about Tribute - 4/26/2004 12:29:53 AM   
ShadeDiva


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Status: offline 		That's only because credit friend hasn't learned yet, and they will have three times the trouble PayPal did.

After all you have to realize that with four major payment services disallowing those tranasactions, the customers that were spread out across four or more companies are now converging on one. Most fold in a few months, tops. Banks notice that kind of thing, and WILL stop funding such doomed aspects of business. And unless you have financial institutions backing you, you can't succeed dealing with that thing.

I don't think they are remotely the same to Napster and Kazaa, lol. As for opening the road, there are several debates to that. I don't automatically credit the first people to come out with something as *opening the door* for others. The fact is, SOMEONE *has* to be the first, and it's a luck of the draw on that one. Someone HAS to be second, and so on. Just becase an author might have written a book and got it published before anyone else thought to, doesn't make them the people that *opened the door to whatever* in my opinion, it merely makes them the first to get a book of that vein published - nothing more.

If it happened - it was going to happen - no matter what. Whoever's behind the door when it opens isn't necessarily the person that was knocking, just happened to be the closest vehicle at the time that it decided it would come into being. Kinda how I see it, anyway.

Back on topic, I personally won't report such abuse because it would be a personal agenda thing, and not done from an ethical standpoint. I do know it's effective, I've watched how it affected that slice of humanity for a while now. Just, I have internal things that prevent me from doing so. But I'm more than happy to point that avenue out to others. lol.

~ShadeDiva

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RE: question about Tribute - 4/26/2004 8:06:37 AM   
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I don't dominate by phone or keyboard, but I have known women who do.
I have also known quite a few women who have worked as exotic dancers, webcam girls and phone sex operators. All but one of those categories receive remuneration for providing a service....without any physical contact. Like anything else there would be no market if there were no buyers......period.

Next....Maybe I have lived a sheltered life or something, but I have never had a man tell me he was taken advantage of in this manner. I have not heard of hacked accounts, or maxed out credit cards based on his contact with a "no contact" sex worker. I am certain it happens from time to time, but I doubt it is the epidemic being hailed here.

What is more common....and most likely...is a man pays for a service, RECEIVES his service, and then cancels the charge....or claims fraud. He uses her to meet his needs, then basically stiffs her for her pay. Because he doesn't want his wife to see the bill, or because he is just unethical....he reverses the charges.

This is something that happens ALL THE TIME. I agree that people who EXTORT or STEAL should be prosecuted and eliminated from our ranks. But to say the industry or the practice of exchanging money for a fantasy service is the problem......is simply the wrong target. How's about we save our indignation and judgement for those that abuse others...on both sides of the equation.

There are legitimate people in the sex industry.

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RE: question about Tribute - 5/7/2004 11:39:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, this is an interesting topic. I have scanned, so forgive if I repeat or reiterate. I am a Pro Domina...I am also seeking to set up My own D/s household now with live-ins. There are specific reasons I have not been able to do this before, and have not had live-ins for years. HOWEVER!
I have heard from subs/slaves on this site who have said they are requested to make payment to even speak with a Domme. ***NOT*** If you are that foolish, then I guess you deserve it! I do state clearly in My profile what I am seeking and My focus at this time. That does include contract and slave ownership, and that includes control of all, including your money/assets!! ( I do protect also on your end regarding money/assets).
But, I personally, do not browse profiles, although I see a great many since anytime I send an email reply the site pops Me back to the home page and there is a new profile! I do not contact anyone..Except perhaps another Dom/Domme, or once, a slave who had some disappointing news posted in a journal (just to give a few words of encouragement, mind you). So anyone who is interested in Me, is certainly not charged for a correspondence or even, if it gets that far, a phone call. If you are interested in Me, you have to find Me and contact Me.
Financial Domination is a part of the lifestyle. It can be part of your style or not, as you choose. But don't blame a Domme if that is part of hers. Just know that a true Domina should not charge you just for exploration of a real time relationship. After agreements are struck, and all is clear, it is up to you. And yes, I do charge for cyber and real time training. There is a contract for that too. Would you take college classes, and expect to get them for free? I put a lot of time and effort into My curriculums. Should I not be recompensed for that? So if it is real training you are seeking, real time or on the net, think of it as tuition. Check out the Domina to the best of your ability. Make sure you are going to get the training you need and want. There are many different areas that can be covered.
That's all for now. I do have a tendency to go on for too long. But I guess I just love to hear Myself talk! *Smiling Wink*




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RE: question about Tribute - 5/7/2004 7:26:49 PM   
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Then again, I am of the opinion that tributes are like gifts, and as such, by definition can not be asked for, demanded for or commanded to be given, as that would then make that a *tithe* since if you disobeyed the command there is most likely to be *some* consequence of *some* sort. Tributes/gifts are things that would be given without seeking, threatening or demanding, because the giver *wishes* to do something nice *of their OWN accord* as an extra little surprise, just because they think it might make the person smile or lift their spirits or brighten their day, etc.


Just a little side note from the cesspool of useless information in my mind

While tribute nowadays does mean something given voluntarily as due or deserved as a gift to show respect, gratitude or affection, in olden times ( think vikings) it was a payment made as a mark of submission or pacification ( as in please take this gold mr viking instead of burning our town and raping our women and sheep and killing all the men ), usually paid once a year - and usually paid under threat of axe and sword. So if you go by the older definition then these *koff* Dominas are correctly using the term.

That being said, if you aint gettin somethin of value for your money - dont spend it

remember caveat emptor



Here's a nice thought though - there's gotta be a way that all these *koff* Dominas can be steered into connecting only with all the HNG's - kinda poetic justice on both sides

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RE: question about Tribute - 5/11/2004 8:20:56 PM   
laguna


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ORIGINAL: sarbonn

Being owned doesn't have to cost money. Hell, you don't even have to know you're owned to be owned.

One evening, I was about to go out to get something to eat, and the woman I had been submitting to came over and happened to show up as I was leaving, and she was concerned that I was going out without her knowing about it. I mentioned that she never mentioned wanting to control or own me. That changed VERY fast. Apparently, she had told all of her friends about her new slave she was going to be collaring; she just kind of forgot to mention it to me.

Ah, those were great days....



Laughing... Ya know, I'm glad to hear this. At least now I know I'm not the only clueless one out there. I remember those days too. :)

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RE: question about Tribute - 5/12/2004 3:45:08 PM   
NubianPimpette


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Status: offline 		I find this topic rather interesting and I thought that what was said in this post was right on the money. A tribute was supposed to be exactly what it was. A sign of submission and servitude. If any boy wishes to serve a Mistress and tribute Her as a show of His love, Sincerity or whatever it is then whats wrong in that? I personally do not subscribe to the idea that when a boy tributes he has to get something back in return. Why do I have to work overtime to make him feel that he has had value for his money. I am lifestyle as opposed to pro even though the opportunity to be pro has came up. I am not interested in having some unknown person come to Me, "tribute" $200(or whatever it is) and create his fantasy with the sembelence that this is TPE. I hope I dont offend anyone as that is not My intention but it seems a little well tacky to Me and reeks of getting paid for a service. If thats what makes any Domme happy then Im glad but it doesnt make Me happy so I stay away from it. I have received tributes from boys simply as a thankyou for My time(And I spend a lot of time on My actual boys). I also have pets that do not tribute who have that idea of ANY tribute takes away from the beauty of D/s. Thats fine too. I do not handle all My boys in the same way. I do not depend on them for My livlihood as that looks like just a little too much co-dependancy for Me.
Anyway I wanted to answer the original post even though I am probably beating a dead horse.


A. does every Mistress and Goddess require cash up front for lifestyle play, and ongoing financial payments to be Owned?

Not every lifestyle does and not every lifestyle doesnt. you pick the Domme that best suits you. Some boys like to pay ongoing payments. Some Dommes like it too. if you dont like it then roll on to the Domme that will play with you for love of the Life. I have lost count of the amount of boys that have emailed Me with requests to be My cuckold I dont play with them. Its easy. As I always tell any new pet..you have one decision to make once W/we have discussed everything and that is to serve or not to serve. Thats a valuable choice that you have in your hands. Use it well.


B. am i doing something wrong? (please ask whatever clarifying questions you wish, Goddesses, i will answer as soon as possible)

Do you think you are doing anything wrong?

C. what should i reasonably do here

Do as you have done. Ask questions etc.

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RE: question about Tribute - 5/12/2004 4:08:51 PM   
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A. does every Mistress and Goddess require cash up front for lifestyle play, and ongoing financial payments to be Owned?

Not every lifestyle does and not every lifestyle doesnt. you pick the Domme that best suits you. Some boys like to pay ongoing payments. Some Dommes like it too. if you dont like it then roll on to the Domme that will play with you for love of the Life. I have lost count of the amount of boys that have emailed Me with requests to be My cuckold I dont play with them. Its easy. As I always tell any new pet..you have one decision to make once W/we have discussed everything and that is to serve or not to serve. Thats a valuable choice that you have in your hands. Use it well.


B. am i doing something wrong? (please ask whatever clarifying questions you wish, Goddesses, i will answer as soon as possible)

Do you think you are doing anything wrong?


NubianPimpette,

A. No

B. No.

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RE: question about Tribute - 5/12/2004 11:22:28 PM   
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Welcome aboard indeed

That said, prepare to be thrown into the deep end of the pool


quote:

reeks of getting paid for a service.


No real offense taken,nor do i necessarily think that you were advocating this position, but I just thought I would point out that if you find getting paid for a service offensive ('reeks') then you really should never go to a salon to get your hair or nails done, or pay someone to do your yardwork, or consult a lawyer, or eat at a restaurant, or any of a million other things where people are paid for performing a service.

Nothing wrong with honest pay for honest work.

That said, my tuppence on this is still that these women do NOT provide any service, let alone an honest one - I mean, even straight hookers at least give value for money - and not just bilge spouting out of their mouths.
(stepping down from soapbox)

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RE: question about Tribute - 5/13/2004 11:13:11 AM   
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Hello matthewslave,

Before I address your questions, let me say that this is My opinion and as is often stated in the Lifestyle, YMMV (your mileage may vary) which means there may be those out there who disagree with Me.

A. No. There are as many different types of Dommes/Mistresses/Goddesses out there as their are submissives. Not all of them require money just like not all of them would require a submissive/slave to be castrated.

B. I don't know what you're doing, but likely it's not anything "wrong". I personally know Dommes who are into financial submission. According to them, it's really difficult to find a submissive with the same kink if you will. Suggestion: Try searching for Dommes in your area with like interests if possible.

C. Ultimately, what you choose to do has to be decided by you. My advice is that you be as well informed as possible before making that choice. If you believe that financial submission is something you're interested in, then pursue it. If you don't feel it's something you're interested in, then politely and respectfully decline.

The key to finding a partner who will match you is open and thorough communication. If you run into a potential partner who unwilling to communicate with you or unwilling to take the time to see if your needs match, to Me, that's a red flag and time to move on.

Again, this is just My opinion and YMMV.

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RE: question about Tribute - 5/14/2004 1:22:15 AM   
ShadeDiva


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ORIGINAL: UtahGoddess
Next....Maybe I have lived a sheltered life or something, but I have never had a man tell me he was taken advantage of in this manner.


I have. Too many times to count. And yeah, it's pretty common depending on where you haunt. Hell I still get approached daily with offers to "financially ruin" (UGH!) or "financially control" them, like I'd be interested in that level of control with a complete stranger - sheesh.

quote:

ORIGINAL: UtahGoddess
I have not heard of hacked accounts, or maxed out credit cards based on his contact with a "no contact" sex worker. I am certain it happens from time to time, but I doubt it is the epidemic being hailed here.


Well tell it to PayPal, and StormPay. lol. And to all the guys that got bilked. It *does* happen, and on a daily basis. No exaggeration, sadly, no exaggeration in the least.

quote:

ORIGINAL: UtahGoddess
What is more common....and most likely...is a man pays for a service, RECEIVES his service, and then cancels the charge....or claims fraud. He uses her to meet his needs, then basically stiffs her for her pay. Because he doesn't want his wife to see the bill, or because he is just unethical....he reverses the charges.


No, actually that isn't the majority of what I was speaking about. I am speaking of flat out scamming and hacking and ripping people off. Hell these broads used to BRAG about it, and SHOW me how they did it like it was a freaking badge or some shit. When a guy is told to pay a chick to see her cam, or for a session that NEVER happnes, and you see that from this individual over and over and over, and multiply that situation by literally hundreds - what would you call it? I'd call it scamming and fraud, myself. And when someone gets a submissive to hand over their password to their PayPal to show them that they trust them and the first thing they do is run into their account and empty it and then a few weeks bragging about it - gee, I'd say that was unethical and simply stealing.

quote:

ORIGINAL: UtahGoddess
This is something that happens ALL THE TIME. I agree that people who EXTORT or STEAL should be prosecuted and eliminated from our ranks. But to say the industry or the practice of exchanging money for a fantasy service is the problem......is simply the wrong target. How's about we save our indignation and judgement for those that abuse others...on both sides of the equation.


I'd agree ... if you were speaking about just the sex industry in general and NOT about financial fetishes. And sure that happens from tim4e to time in that as well, but oh hell yes, there is easily far more abuse on the "worker's" end than there is on the "client's" end.

quote:

ORIGINAL: UtahGoddess
There are legitimate people in the sex industry.


Again, apples and oranges here. I was not speaking about the sex industry but instead about financial fetishes, which altough can be merged is usually a seperate little beastie unto itself. People that would never do any phone/cam sex will hop into that fetish realm easy as pie. Sure PSOs and CamGirls are peppered throughout it, but those types generally see it as a business transaction and view the submissive as a client that is looking for a service that they can provide. The scammers AREN'T. Big difference.

And besides, no one said at all that there weren't legit and ethical folks in the sex industry anywhere in this thread that I could see.

~ShadeDiva

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RE: question about Tribute - 6/11/2004 12:26:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Matthew, It's really very simple. Some women, and I am not calling them Dommes, think they have found a gold mine. Most ( I am not saying all) are banking on their age, usually twenties and early thirties, take a sexy pic of themselves, or smirk someone else with a great body. Send it out on the e-waves and wait for the eager beavers to come. Out of curiosity I looked at the Dominant womens profiles and noticed a real trend here. My advice is READ, very throughly what they put in the comments side. I use this line a lot, if it sounds to perfect to be true, IT IS. Look for the mind set, not the body build. Stay safe, and lock up your wallet before going forth to meet the lioness in her den. Sundew

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RE: question about Tribute - 6/15/2004 10:35:40 AM   
MystressAna


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I know pro dommes and one is a very close friend of mine. They don't comb lists like this for clients. Their clients come from referrals and from their web sites. They are very careful about who they session and how they discuss payment because what they do is illegal. I think what you have on your hands are scam artists. Lifestyle dommes don't ask for money.

As for what you can do differently, I suggest you join your local real life bdsm groups. Go to all the meetings and classes you can and make friends within the subs. The subs know who the good local tops are. And who to stay waaay away from for that matter.

Most importantly, take your time and go slow. Because you are new, you won't know what your needs are for awhile. Try to get a breadth of experiences with a variety of tops after you have seen them play and have checked references. In a few years you will really have a good handle on what you need and don't ever settle for less.
Good luck to you,
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RE: question about Tribute - 7/2/2004 9:43:02 PM   
MistressEvilynn


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Status: offline 		Hello as a mistress who has done financial domination I just wanted to put my few words in. I am not a pro domme I am a real time mistress who has had slaves for years. Financial domination isnt a life long free ride by any means its not a part of a slave giving tribute its just another fetish that some enjoy and others do not. I know I am going to get preach to soon but anyway. I have been a mistress for a while I am currently not seeking a slave at this time but I a lot of financial dominatrix arent pro dommes at least I am not. Its a form of bondage that some slaves enjoy and I enjoy it as well as a form of control this isnt for everyone all slave are different. As far as your talking about tribute that should be gifts and some small tokens of adoration I feel once the sub and domme have met without play and talked and decided that they are compatible. Like one mistress said if a mistress emails you asking for money watch out she just wants that. And you as a sub should use a little bit of common sense and think if I havent met this woman why should I send her anything.
Peace be with you....
MistressEvilynn

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RE: question about Tribute - 7/4/2004 8:29:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		As both a lifestyle and professional Domme, I NEVER contact anyone for business...they come to me. I have contacted subs on a personal level, however. I do not charge anything when I contact a sub.....if things continue between us I would, of course, expect flowers, candy, etc. , but certainly not cash. I find it vulgar and unnecessary. "domme's" like this give REAL Dommes a bad name!!

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