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whtsub4blckdom -> Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (9/14/2013 9:00:24 PM)



Truly dominant men... men who are alpha males, are harder to come by. It's easy to find some guy who wants to own you. Its not so easy to find a man who owns himself. A man who dominates their own lives first, and themselves. Not just some guy who calls himself a Dom. Do you compel obedience in others? Are you a masters of your life and your surroundings? Or just a little boy to insecure to handle a woman in any situation other than her obedience?

By definition, a dominant man is not possessive, because possessiveness is a sign of insecurity, which is a sign of submissiveness.




JeffBC -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (9/14/2013 9:04:00 PM)

Honestly? You seriously just posted that? It's not that I don't sympathize with the viewpoint because I very much do. I'm just not nearly narcissistic enough to think that "my way" equates to any sort of "true way". I'm also not egotistical enough to want to define reality for the entire rest of humanity. Honestly, you sound pretty damned dominant to me if we want to play label games.




getoutnow -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (9/14/2013 9:13:21 PM)

Yes, these guys do exist.

Much like myself who do not need women. We are more than capable of looking after ourselves. We only need women for companionship and more.

Some of us are Dom in our prospective careers because we are top of the food chain and then Dom in our lives because we have our respective shit together. Again don't need a woman to fix us, we aren't broken nor missing a "half".

But I looked at your profile and I did snigger. Good luck in searching. You definitely need it.




Whiplashsmile4 -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (9/14/2013 9:20:53 PM)

The Possessive nature of humanity is neither a sign of insecurity or security...




whtsub4blckdom -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (9/14/2013 9:28:33 PM)

Hey... I am just starting my first post. Give me a break. Thank you for your replies. I am new to this lifestyle. I know what i want... and yes it will probably take me forever to get it. However I won't settle for someone who wants control over me. I will be submissive to a man that has control over his life and treats his submissive as a gift... because that is what we are :)




Whiplashsmile4 -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (9/14/2013 9:37:25 PM)

First of all the control anybody has over their own lives is a bit of an illusion. In regards to somebody having their life together, what specific aspects are you focused upon? There are some wealthy people with very little to no control over themselves...or rather come with a lot of issues. This whole matter becomes rather subject and relative when you come to see humanity in it's true glory! Just saying.




peppermint -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (9/14/2013 9:38:24 PM)

The Dominants I know don't need to read something to discover their "role." They know who they are. They do not need to be this "role" you have decided they must fill. They don't need roles and pretend. They just are.

Either you are compatible or you are not. No biggie thing. However, remember that this is a relationship. It might take you months or years to find the person you seek.




Whiplashsmile4 -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (9/14/2013 9:40:30 PM)

A truly strong person is not looking for somebody to complete them, nor be some so called missing part or better half. They stand on their own solid. They tend to not be brainwashed into CoDependent emotionalism as well.




NiceAnimal -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (9/14/2013 9:54:23 PM)

I would tend to think the classical alpha male is neither secure, or indeed dominant.

That, rather, he is constantly trying to prove his worth to others. In the animal kingdom, the classical alpha male would have social power. In the modern human world, its entirely different, such people have no power. Here charm, oratory skill, confidence, vision, intelligence and the possession of wealth represent influence. Physical confidence and confidence generally are still useful qualities of course, but not in themselves a kind of social power. Not that these people described nessasarily possess true social power, or self true self esteem.

On a philosophical level, real world power is ultimately about being the most unaffected, or the most committed or willful. In this, those who want recognition, are the weakest, so the key is both vision/drive and detachment from outcomes.

And thusly, the roles of submission and dominant, become confused - to utterly surrender, is what allows one to be truely dominant, by no longer resisting any outcome, one is able to pursue ones goals, without losing will.

Of course here is where I find a lot of what is traditionally called dominance to be ...amusing. The constant reliance on approval or acceptance or outcomes is clear weakness, as is pride.




sunshinemiss -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (9/14/2013 10:07:47 PM)

To the original poster,
If you want to be respected, you must earn it. Here and everywhere. Let's look at your post, shall we?

First, your name - your handle "whtsub4blckdom" already tells us you don't expect respect for yourself. I'm just some white sub for any old black dom. I understand that you are new, and perhaps you will learn this lesson right away ... and change your name. If not, you are announcing that you are available for anyone - as long as she or he is black and self-identifies as a dom. Good luck with that.


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Truly dominant men... men who are alpha males, are harder to come by. It's easy to find some guy who wants to own you.


Perhaps it is easy to find a guy who SAYS he wants to own you.

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Its not so easy to find a man who owns himself. A man who dominates their own lives first, and themselves. Not just some guy who calls himself a Dom. Do you compel obedience in others? Are you a masters of your life and your surroundings? Or just a little boy to insecure to handle a woman in any situation other than her obedience?


These are fair questions that you are smart to think about when you have a date with a fellow. I would advise you to realize there are a myriad of OTHER choices.

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By definition, a dominant man is not possessive, because possessiveness is a sign of insecurity, which is a sign of submissiveness


While this may be YOUR definition, it doesn't even come close to MY definition. I *want* a man who is possessive. I *want* a man who wants to protect me and who values me and who expects me to look to him. (These are part of *my* definition of possessive. Note that I'm not dissing YOUR way; I'm simply saying mine is different.)

You may be new to the boards, and you may be new to "the lifestyle", but you're no kid. You are 30 years old. You're just talking about dating. That's it.

I noticed a couple of things about your profile. First, the post here is actually a journal entry. That seems to be where this belongs anyway. Secondly, your profile seems kind of hostile and defensive with all the ... well there are too many to mention. My grandma always said you get more flies with honey than with vinegar. Your current profile will simply chase away the good men.

Good luck,
sunshine




Gauge -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (9/14/2013 10:37:37 PM)

So for your first post you start off by asking if there are TRUE dominants on this site. Do you realize that you are merely one poster out of about 50 this week to ask the very same question? Between all the "FAKES AND PHONY" posts and the "TRUE SUB" or "TRUE DOMINANT" these types of posts are starting to sound like fingernails on a chalkboard. And while your question may be a valid one, there are many ways to ask this question without pointing fingers at everyone and exclaiming loudly, "MY OPINION IS TRUTH!"

Please define a true dominant. If you say it is one that is in control of their life, fine... when they get hit by a bus, were they not a TRUE dominant? I mean, come on... hit by a bus... they lacked the control to stop the bus. And if you think that wanting to possess a woman is a sign of weakness just because your submission is so far and above anything else about you, that a male dominant should be groveling at your feet worshiping your subliness... yeah, not my definition. I don't know if you have read any profiles here or not, but go page through some of the forum regulars profiles and then tell me that some women think that a male wanting to possess a female is a sign of weakness. In YOUR eyes it may be, but not in theirs. This is always the problem with sweeping generalizations being driven by ill formed opinions, you wind up falling on your face and skinning your nose in the process.

So, how about you start again? Maybe try and get to know some people on the forums rather than coming here and insisting that your way of seeing things is far superior to what we think is right for ourselves. BDSM cannot be pigeonholed into any one category because there are far too many different permutations of individual preferences and beliefs. In fact, that is the very reason they make chocolate and vanilla ice cream, some people do not like chocolate... they are freaks, but there it is.





metamorfosis -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (9/14/2013 10:52:08 PM)

Seconding the suggestion to change your name. You're not a sub, OP, you are one big list of demands.




LadyPact -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (9/14/2013 10:57:33 PM)

OK. You're new. Yet, you're going to tell us how it's done? Would you care to give some other examples of areas of life where the person who hasn't tried something until now, but they tell other folks how it should go?

To answer your question, yes, there are some men on this site that I'd definitely say were Dominant. It's not because they checked the label box, either. Not all of them buy into the "submission is a gift" stuff or discuss concepts like they got all of their impressions from either Castle Realm, Fifty Shades, or The Story of O. It's because they know what they are talking about from their real life relationships.

Now that I answered your question, perhaps you'll do the same. If you don't want somebody who has control (also called authority, also known as power, also known as one person's will over another) exactly what are you submitting to?




SerWhiteTiger -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (9/14/2013 11:30:49 PM)

There used to be true dominants here, but I ate them. Tasty like candy.




MadameMarque -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (9/15/2013 4:32:33 AM)


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ORIGINAL: SerWhiteTiger

There used to be true dominants here, but I ate them. Tasty like candy.


hahaha...What?! They didn't taste like a Dom-ly thick, blue-rare beef loin steak? Oh, well. Thank Heavens they didn't taste like chicken.




SweetAnise -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (9/15/2013 4:50:31 AM)

To the OP sometimes I think some folks (including me sometimes) are just to sensitive for words and just like hollering at people. I for one do believe your first post was unsettling, but it sounds like your angry with the type of male "dominants" who have contacted you and you are looking for validation for those feelings. But it is true everyone has their own definition of what a dominant and submissive is for them. You simply need to stick to what works for you. You DO NOT have to change your nickname if you don't want too...you could...if you feel this will help you gain better attention, but realize this is the internet. There is a lot of sh*t out there. Just be careful and safe. Join some local groups and read up on some stuff. There are TRUE dominants out there and one out there for you.




KYsissy -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (9/15/2013 5:16:46 AM)

I suspect the OP has received an avalanche of emails from guys who like the concept of being a dom because they see that as a way to have BJs on tap and this thread is a reflection of her frustration.

You will receive lots of emails that will go nowhere. It will take time to find a good partner.
In my case, it happened after I pretty much gave up and connected with a woman who was not looking either.
The stars must have aligned .




RedMagic1 -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (9/15/2013 6:15:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: whtsub4blckdom
Truly dominant men... men who are alpha males, are harder to come by. It's easy to find some guy who wants to own you. Its not so easy to find a man who owns himself. A man who dominates their own lives first, and themselves. Not just some guy who calls himself a Dom. Do you compel obedience in others? Are you a masters of your life and your surroundings? Or just a little boy to insecure to handle a woman in any situation other than her obedience?

By definition, a dominant man is not possessive, because possessiveness is a sign of insecurity, which is a sign of submissiveness.

A female friend of mine, who is quite intelligent but only so-so pretty, has dated some extremely wealthy men. She once said to me, "Red, after a man dates enough, looks don't matter anymore. Men like happy girls." And she's happy and loves her life.

Does your writing sound happy? When you walk into a room, do you radiate joy? Because that's what the man who has everything is looking for. So, maybe, you aren't seeing those men because they aren't looking for you.




SunTzuSwe -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (9/15/2013 7:15:53 AM)

I second Red on that one. Looks only matter so much, personality is key in every aspect. And yes, imho words like "true" are usually a sign to just move on, discussions or profiles based on "true" rarely contribute in any positive or meaningful way. From my experience, the most dominant males I know rarely if ever introduce themselves as dommes. They don't have to...
Sure there are some serious and good dommes here, but it's very much in the eye of the beholder. Like previous posters have noted before me, it's just dating with a little extra flavor.




JeffBC -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (9/15/2013 7:24:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4
A truly strong person is not looking for somebody to complete them, nor be some so called missing part or better half.

Well the color me a weak-assed person then. Although, in the interests of fairness I ought to tell you that very few people would say that of me. Most of them... friends and enemies alike... would laugh at that description.

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ORIGINAL: SunshineMiss
While this may be YOUR definition, it doesn't even come close to MY definition. I *want* a man who is possessive. I *want* a man who wants to protect me and who values me and who expects me to look to him. (These are part of *my* definition of possessive. Note that I'm not dissing YOUR way; I'm simply saying mine is different.)

*chuckles* Out of all the BDSM labels that float around in our marriage the one that actually feels right is "mine"... it feels right in a vanilla context too and I mean it literally. In point of fact, I want to literally own a human being. That sounds at least reasonably possessive to me. I'll be sure to tell the CEO (large company) that I'm meeting this week that he should please handle me with kid gloves because I'm so "submissive". It'll be a great joke as an ice-breaker.




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