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OsideGirl -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (10/4/2013 4:12:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist
"is that all you got Master?"


FYI: From experience I can say that phrase is among the worst as safe word phrases......




NoBimbosAllowed -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (10/4/2013 8:33:35 PM)

to whtsub4blckdom:

you aren't using an actual userpic of yourself, or you created (I'm am relatively sure), so the use of the word "true" is a bit unfair. You have untruly represented yourself, visually.

However, so has JeffBC, so you can happily throw THAT in his/her face ANY time they get uppity with you. [;)]




sunshinemiss -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (10/5/2013 5:05:36 AM)

nm




Kirata -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (10/5/2013 6:25:27 AM)


Wouldn't it be best to just say "No" and hope they go away?

K.




NoBimbosAllowed -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (10/5/2013 8:43:09 PM)

No. because the simple use of the word "no" is....


...no....


deterrent.




JeffBC -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (10/6/2013 6:48:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: NoBimbosAllowed
However, so has JeffBC, so you can happily throw THAT in his/her face ANY time they get uppity with you. [;)]

Uh.... that in fact is myself and Carol. Your detective skills need some work.




TNDommeK -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (10/6/2013 12:30:59 PM)

I stopped reading when I saw "submission is a gift"




NoBimbosAllowed -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (10/6/2013 8:06:31 PM)

"Uh.... that in fact is myself and Carol. Your detective skills need some work."

not treally, as it's a silhouette of less than 20% of you, and about 30% of Carol. So, no.




AthenaSurrenders -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (10/6/2013 10:24:48 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: NoBimbosAllowed

to whtsub4blckdom:

you aren't using an actual userpic of yourself, or you created (I'm am relatively sure), so the use of the word "true" is a bit unfair. You have untruly represented yourself, visually.

However, so has JeffBC, so you can happily throw THAT in his/her face ANY time they get uppity with you. [;)]




quote:

ORIGINAL: NoBimbosAllowed

"Uh.... that in fact is myself and Carol. Your detective skills need some work."

not treally, as it's a silhouette of less than 20% of you, and about 30% of Carol. So, no.


It's a picture featuring him AND a picture he created, so by your own criteria, he is not 'untruly representing himself, visually'.

Why does the amount of body shown make a difference. Do we require full body shots now? I guess they also require good lighting, and total nudity to make sure no one is hiding anything under their clothes. Oh, and best post a side and back picture too, in case one of us is hiding a vestigial tail.

Let's be honest here - you assumed that because it's a stylized photo and well-taken he must've picked it up from a website. Easy mistake to make.




NoBimbosAllowed -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (10/6/2013 10:34:28 PM)

NNNNNNNNNNNo. That's not why In posted what I did. Frankly he fact that the couple is honest about the picture is lovely but that does not change the fact that said picture could pretty much be ANYBODY, as opposed to your pic and your eye, if that is you.

If I was someone who did not work with images and published images professionally, yes, you'd have caught me out. But if you want me to be honest, I will be: the opinion on pics of published people is totally different and comes from a totally different pace that some dipshit with an iPhone and access to instagram.

When it comes to a certain generic quality in photos, frankly they not only could "be" of anyone, they could be BY anyone, but all photos since the introduction of photos into broadsheet newspapers have been for ONE reason: semiotic effect. Get the desired reaction and desired response from the viewer/reader/audience. And this site is very much, especially in this subsection of the forum, a newspaper broadsheet. And Jeffo knows full well what reaction and what liitations to said reaction that pic provides and also does not provide. Just like the women using pics of other people in their profiles and any other point the OP or anyone else might choose to make. Unless a photo has something UNIQUE to the username, readily recognizable as such, it may as well be one more softcore-porn pic swiped and added to the user-pic roster.

The effect is what matters not the semantics used to justify the effect.

so no, in honesty, you are incorrect about why I posted what I did. Just as anyone who might have assumed that my own user pic has been 'swiped' from someone else would be incorrect.




SerWhiteTiger -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (10/7/2013 12:51:39 AM)

Well, that's a big hypocritical mess.




NoBimbosAllowed -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (10/7/2013 2:49:26 AM)

I can see how'd you'd think so, but no, not really. To the casual observer a pic either looks "casual" and honestly a depiction of the user or it appears swiped. No admittedly Jeff's pic is his own (to use the possessive of the couple, 'their own') but I'd bet the effect on anyone else looking at it is to think it looks exactly like the same pics used by alt.com or bondage.com or any other site's ad. And there is nothing, at all, in Jeff's pic to say "this is us" even if you know it IS them. You have a tiger pic, yet I know you are not a Tiger from The Life of Pi chatting here. The way it is presented changes the entire context of how your photo is received. Because there is no way you are presenting yourself as a 'candied up' version of a bdsm person who may or may not be as good looking as their photo.

Jeff's pic on the other hand AIN'T that.

So no, it's not hypocritical, any more than saying some hipsterwank with a Galaxy Note who takes a snap of a piece of art then scrawls over it with a stylus does not get to call themselves an 'artist'.

As any museum curate will say and has said for decades, the context in which a photo is viewed changes the nature of the photo itself entirely. Whether some hipsterwank 'gets' that or not is immaterial, but YOU get it, Ser.




MrRodgers -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (10/7/2013 3:30:00 AM)


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ORIGINAL: whtsub4blckdom

Hey... I am just starting my first post. Give me a break. Thank you for your replies. I am new to this lifestyle. I know what i want... and yes it will probably take me forever to get it. However I won't settle for someone who wants control over me. I will be submissive to a man that has control over his life and treats his submissive as a gift... because that is what we are :)

What would call or say or think of a man who back in the day you met say, in a bar or at a party and didn't have a label on his forehead (profile) saying he was dominant and you were just seduced, your submission was inspired and then got you alone just to ravish you ?

Would he be a twru dom ?




AthenaSurrenders -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (10/7/2013 5:56:47 AM)


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ORIGINAL: NoBimbosAllowed

I can see how'd you'd think so, but no, not really. To the casual observer a pic either looks "casual" and honestly a depiction of the user or it appears swiped. No admittedly Jeff's pic is his own (to use the possessive of the couple, 'their own') but I'd bet the effect on anyone else looking at it is to think it looks exactly like the same pics used by alt.com or bondage.com or any other site's ad. And there is nothing, at all, in Jeff's pic to say "this is us" even if you know it IS them. You have a tiger pic, yet I know you are not a Tiger from The Life of Pi chatting here. The way it is presented changes the entire context of how your photo is received. Because there is no way you are presenting yourself as a 'candied up' version of a bdsm person who may or may not be as good looking as their photo.

Jeff's pic on the other hand AIN'T that.

So no, it's not hypocritical, any more than saying some hipsterwank with a Galaxy Note who takes a snap of a piece of art then scrawls over it with a stylus does not get to call themselves an 'artist'.

As any museum curate will say and has said for decades, the context in which a photo is viewed changes the nature of the photo itself entirely. Whether some hipsterwank 'gets' that or not is immaterial, but YOU get it, Ser.


So your complaint is that Jeff's photo isn't original enough. That's not the same as misrepresentation. Misrepresentation is when you make out that you are something you are not. And if you did know them, I think you would recognize Carol from that picture. A person's silhouette is very distinctive, hence why people have them made of their family members.

Even if a person did think the photo came from a photo site, that doesn't make it misrepresentation. There's no deception going on here. He's not trying to make you believe anything that is untrue through his use of that photograph.

I don't see how him using a photograph of himself and his wife, which he took himself, is somehow worse than using a cartoon drawing, a photo of a tiger, or a picture of one eye in a mask.

The question of art is not relevant.
Your arguments are meandering ever-further from the initial point. It sounds like elaborate back peddling to me. What's wrong with 'oops, my bad'?




egern -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (10/7/2013 8:32:23 AM)


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ORIGINAL: whtsub4blckdom

By definition, a dominant man is not possessive, because possessiveness is a sign of insecurity, which is a sign of submissiveness.




Insecurity is submissiveness?? I wonder if anyone will bite on that ;-)




egern -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (10/7/2013 8:33:36 AM)


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ORIGINAL: whtsub4blckdom



Truly dominant men... men who are alpha males, are harder to come by. It's easy to find some guy who wants to own you. Its not so easy to find a man who owns himself. A man who dominates their own lives first, and themselves. Not just some guy who calls himself a Dom. Do you compel obedience in others? Are you a masters of your life and your surroundings? Or just a little boy to insecure to handle a woman in any situation other than her obedience?




Seriously, it seems to me that what you want is an icon, not a person.




egern -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (10/7/2013 8:34:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: JeffBC

I'm also not egotistical enough to want to define reality for the entire rest of humanity. Honestly, you sound pretty damned dominant to me if we want to play label games.


Not that being dominant has to mean that you are egotistical ;-)




egern -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (10/7/2013 8:36:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4

The Possessive nature of humanity is neither a sign of insecurity or security...



But not something all humankind feels either..




moktaladon -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (10/7/2013 8:37:04 AM)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman




egern -> RE: Are there any TRUE dominants on this site... or is everyone just trying to get laid? (10/7/2013 8:38:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4

First of all the control anybody has over their own lives is a bit of an illusion. In regards to somebody having their life together, what specific aspects are you focused upon? There are some wealthy people with very little to no control over themselves...or rather come with a lot of issues. This whole matter becomes rather subject and relative when you come to see humanity in it's true glory! Just saying.



And well said.




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