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HunterCA -> RE: ***Unmoderated Gun rights debate - Self Defense to 2nd Amendment *** (11/9/2013 4:15:12 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Yachtie
From the debate.
This exchange is the CON replying to a point made by PRO. I have edited as to understanding.
6:whereas open carry is much less scary [to the criminal, versus CC], as [the criminal] know who not to annoy
So my opponent is basically saying that seeing a person walk down the street with a gun is not scary. Well let me tell you something, i would be VERY scared. Concealed Carry laws DO threaten criminals more, but not in a necessarily good way. We aim to preserve life, do we not? Open carry laws PREVENT crimes before they happen, whereas CCL stop the crime in progress. When a criminal sees a person with a gun, he steers clear of said person, therefore causing no harm at all.
The good debater here, the CON, makes the PRO's side for him. He admits it. He'd be VERY scared. What's so hysterical is that he thinks he's refuting his opponent with his emotionalism.
The above is an example of how liberals argue. Is it any wonder he lost the debate?
First off I have to admit I'm weird about this. When I went to a real estate salesman to buy the property I'm on now, I gave him one instruction, "Find me a place the neighbors expect to hear guns from me." I met most of my neighbors because when they heard me shooting the figured I was friendly and came over to say hello. I have the local Game Wardens phone number and call him when local poaching is going on. I know when it's poaching because I know where all my neighbors shoot and if a shot come from somewhere else, and there are no open hunting season...or most especially it's night I know it's from someone not from around here doing something that he shouldn't be doing.
So, that illustrates three points. First, if I see someone open carrying, I'll usually go over and say hello and in my experience the person has always been friendly. But, that's my mind set. A predator would certainly have another mind set I agree.
Second, in the con's arguments it was always, well if you have a person carrying a gun, then this may happen which may cause that to happen and then all hell could break loose. So the guy was not even arguing anything in the real world with which I'm familiar. I handle guns every day. I shoot a lot. I have lots of friends who shoot a lot. None of any of Con's projected arguments are anything I've ever seen or heard about they were just worst case projections to make his argument seem to have weight.
Third, the point to carrying concealed is so the bad guy can't guess who is armed and turns his attention to stealing cars and burglarizing empty houses. The point is to turn the predator into a "property crime" bad guy rather than a "human predator" guy.
Just like when I see a guy carrying open, I'm always armed and I always treat everyone else as if they are armed. It's a much more civil society that way.
But, hey, I believe dueling should be legal so that those puny little metrosexuals who think a vehement response makes them look dandy to the girls would have to back up their point.
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