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graceadieu -> RE: No worries about the shutdown (10/1/2013 1:23:41 PM)
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
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ORIGINAL: graceadieu
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic
This IS our legislative process, Graceadieu. The White House and Reid/Pelosi will blame, the media will repeat, and the Obamabots will bleat the chants they are given, but the House holds the power of the purse, and they are doing the job they were sent to do. Elections have consequences. Who was it that said that?
As someone who believes we would be much better off as a society with less government involvement in our daily lives, what I hope we get from this are a hell of a lot of people who realize that life goes right along without it.
Elections do have consequences. The President and the Dem majority in the Senate were elected to enact the Democratic agenda, which they have attempted to do.
Both houses of Congress voted to pass this law. The President signed it. It passed. That's the normal legislative process in this country. Some of the GOP wanted it repealed, so they tried the normal routes. They held, what, 41 votes in the House to try and repeal it, and failed every time. That's, well, a little ridiculous, but also part of our legislative process. They even took it to the Supreme Court, who ruled it constitutional. That's also part of our governmental process.
The Republicans could not get the law voted down, and they could not get it repealed, and they could not get it declared unconstitutional, using the processes our Constitution and Founding Fathers laid down. So instead, they held the functioning of the federal government hostage, shutting the government down because the Senate wouldn't stop the law. That's not part of our legislative process. At all. By any means.
And, guess, what, repeal is also part of our legislative process. Just because it passed and won it's only Constitutional challenge doesn't guarantee it's here to stay. It can still be repealed.
Representatives are elected every 2 years. Why? To thwart attempts at government not following the will of the People. States were, initially, electors of Senators, so the States were also represented within the Federal Government, but that was changed. Even the US Constitution can be changed. What's more, since the House was set up to be more indicative of the will of the People, the purse strings were given to the HoR. This is not some radical departure from the Constitutional workings of government. This is how our Government was intended to work. Having Senators and Representatives that wouldn't get together and negotiate some sort of compromise wasn't intended, but the various maneuvers were.
I do believe Obamacare will have to weather some more Constitutionality challenges, too.
Sure, it can be repealed. I did mention that attempting to repeal (by having a vote) is part of our normal legislative process. If the House wants to keep trying to do that, even another 40 times, it can. It's a waste of time and taxpayer money, but they can do it. If, next fall, some of the D Senators get replaced with Rs, and they still want to repeal it in 2015, maybe they will. That's totally fine. I mean, I hope they don't, but it would be part of the normal functioning of government.
But trying to hold hostage the functioning of our government and the paychecks of millions of people in order to force their political opponents to vote against the will of the legislature and their constituency is madness and anarchy and not at all part of our civil governmental process.
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