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joether -> RE: Shots fired (10/4/2013 12:17:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TNDommeK
Does anyone else find anything fishy about the whole mental health issue. It seems that anything that has to do with politics and guns or violence involves a mentally unstable person.


Yeah, they don't know much about her, yet know she has a mental illness. That struck me as odd. Maybe the car actually went out of control due to the driver or the vehicle failing and she panic. Could happen to anyone. Shock does that to people. What evidence does anyone have that she has a mental health illness? What evidence do the reporters have that she had a mental illness that would have impaired her judgment?

Worst still, is that everyone accepts it without question. Gosh, how conditioned have we become? Someone does something nutty....POOF....they must have a history of mental illness. If that was the case, than the entire Republican/Tea Party in Congress should be locked up and given therapists for the next few years.





Kirata -> RE: Shots fired (10/4/2013 1:42:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: joether

Maybe the car actually went out of control...

And maybe you didn't watch the video.

K.




Lucylastic -> RE: Shots fired (10/4/2013 2:21:53 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


Classy...

K.


[image]local://upfiles/235229/6E7B6E0F74E24EF7969B849D05D42F06.jpg[/image]

what hash tag were they under K?

Even classier
[image]http://www.digitaljournal.com/img/8/9/2/5/9/3/i/1/5/8/p-medium/tim_griffin.jpg[/image]
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/10/04/republican-capitol-hill-shooting-president/
but also usatoday yanno before anyone shoots the messenger...[8|]
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/10/03/capitol-shooting-griffin-democrats-violent-rhetoric/2917113/


oh and checkout stormfront if you want some real classy stuff...
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t997436-6/
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t997436-7/#post11583101
oh hell any of the pages will do




Kirata -> RE: Shots fired (10/4/2013 2:31:13 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

what hash tag were they under K?

I don't use Twitter. I don't even know what a "hash tag" is. I just captured part of a page I saw somewhere.

I'll skip the Stormfront links, if you don't mind. [:)]

K.




Politesub53 -> RE: Shots fired (10/4/2013 3:59:05 AM)


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

I keep hearing about how trashy the Daily Mail is, but they completely missed the Obama Love Child angle.


Just a heads up re the Mail.

I am disgusted by the Mails attack on the late father of Ed Milliband, current leader of the Labour Party.

The problem is they do post some very good journalistic pieces but then revert to posting stories that are undignified to say the least. Millibands father supported communism, the Mail ran a story that he hated Britain. The truth is he fled the Nazis, came here and joined the armed forces.




Kirata -> RE: Shots fired (10/4/2013 4:36:58 AM)


~ FR ~

Investigators have found indications that the woman who led authorities on a chase from the White House to the Capitol before she was shot to death by police thought that President Barack Obama was stalking her... ~Source

Michelle Obama is rumored to be asking private sources about her husband's "golfing". [:)]

K.










Lucylastic -> RE: Shots fired (10/4/2013 4:38:29 AM)

so you did go to stormfront after all.
yeah I should have put in a smiley here... sorry K< I didnt mean to assert, more of a *wink wink* thing
[;)][;)]




Kirata -> RE: Shots fired (10/4/2013 4:41:33 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

so you did go to stormfront after all.

No, the link is US News.

K.




thishereboi -> RE: Shots fired (10/4/2013 5:05:54 AM)

Ok, so you posted two sets of comments and seem to think the second set is even classier than the first. So lets compare. The first has the standard left insults covered, The first one alone covers racist, gun toting idiots. The next two seem to be hoping more people die. Yea that's classy alright so lets move to the next three that you thought were even classier. The first one says I am in the cloakroom. Now maybe that means something else but I don't have my secret decoder so you will have to help out with that. The second one says the shooter was arrested and house floor activity has stopped. Still not seeing the problem. The third one is probably the worse. Tim actually called Obama the president. And then he asked them to stop the violent rhetoric. Sorry still not seeing it. Perhaps your point was made in some comments in your multiple links but I am only going by what you posted here. Maybe you could explain what you saw in those 4 comments that was anywhere near the first 3.




Yachtie -> RE: Shots fired (10/4/2013 5:13:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

Maybe you could explain what you saw in those 4 comments that was anywhere near the first 3.


What's the problem with the first three? [;)]


/sarcasm




Lucylastic -> RE: Shots fired (10/4/2013 5:24:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

Ok, so you posted two sets of comments and seem to think the second set is even classier than the first. So lets compare. The first has the standard left insults covered, The first one alone covers racist, gun toting idiots. The next two seem to be hoping more people die. Yea that's classy alright so lets move to the next three that you thought were even classier. The first one says I am in the cloakroom. Now maybe that means something else but I don't have my secret decoder so you will have to help out with that. The second one says the shooter was arrested and house floor activity has stopped. Still not seeing the problem. The third one is probably the worse. Tim actually called Obama the president. And then he asked them to stop the violent rhetoric. Sorry still not seeing it. Perhaps your point was made in some comments in your multiple links but I am only going by what you posted here. Maybe you could explain what you saw in those 4 comments that was anywhere near the first 3.



wow quite the lil rant on there....
im sorry but the pics kirata posted were from "some page" of twitter idiots
My link was from a republican rep, from arkansas, blaming the gun fire on dems violent rhetoric.... playing the blame game from a representative of the house before anything was known *the gunman didnt have a gun, and police shot her*... except he was laying on the floor of the cloakroom.
with a link to the information
not just numpties on the www pissed off over the government shutdown
Sorry if you cant handle a different angle and obs didnt read the links from the assholes at stormfront.

FFS
your poor innocent brain




thishereboi -> RE: Shots fired (10/4/2013 5:27:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

wow quite the lil rant on there....
im sorry but the pics kirata posted were from "some page" of twitter idiots
My link was from a republican rep, from arkansas, blaming the gun fire on dems violent rhetoric.... playing the blame game from a representative of the house before anything was known *the gunman didnt have a gun, and police shot her*... except he was laying on the floor of the cloakroom.
with a link to the information
not just numpties on the www pissed off over the government shutdown
Sorry if you cant handle a different angle and obs didnt read the links from the assholes at stormfront.

FFS
your poor innocent brain




Well if you don't like the page from the twitter idiots maybe you should check out some of the posts here. They could have been written by the same people.




Lucylastic -> RE: Shots fired (10/4/2013 5:27:49 AM)

[8|]




Yachtie -> RE: Shots fired (10/4/2013 5:45:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

My link was from a republican rep, from arkansas, blaming the gun fire on dems violent rhetoric....


Oh, he was wrong on the gunfire being a result of "dems violent rhetoric." No doubt about that. The gunfire, in this instance, had a different causality.




Lucylastic -> RE: Shots fired (10/4/2013 5:50:19 AM)

no shit




TheHeretic -> RE: Shots fired (10/4/2013 6:49:31 AM)

Who even thinks of stormfront as a source? That's just fucked up. I wouldn't give that site a visit on their count, even to grab a link and leave.

FYI - the wild-ass theory I heard, and identified as such to begin with, was LA afternoon drive time radio hosts playing around with wild-ass theories




leonine -> RE: Shots fired (10/4/2013 10:11:57 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


quote:

ORIGINAL: kalikshama

I keep hearing about how trashy the Daily Mail is, but they completely missed the Obama Love Child angle.


Just a heads up re the Mail.

I am disgusted by the Mails attack on the late father of Ed Milliband, current leader of the Labour Party.

The problem is they do post some very good journalistic pieces
?Name one?
quote:

but then revert to posting stories that are undignified to say the least. Millibands father supported communism, the Mail ran a story that he hated Britain. The truth is he fled the Nazis, came here and joined the armed forces.


Happily, because Milliband had the nerve - almost unique among politicians - to take them on head to head, they have ended up looking very bad. The online buzz has been recalling the Mail's record of enthusiastically supporting the Nazis right up to the start of WW2, and the Sunday Mail then made things twice as bad by sending a journo to gate-crash a Milliband family memorial service, for which the title's owner has had to apologise personally.

They've managed to make Milliband look tough and heroic, which the left-wing press couldn't have done if they tried with both hands for a week.




Lucylastic -> RE: Shots fired (10/4/2013 12:22:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Who even thinks of stormfront as a source? That's just fucked up. I wouldn't give that site a visit on their count, even to grab a link and leave.

FYI - the wild-ass theory I heard, and identified as such to begin with, was LA afternoon drive time radio hosts playing around with wild-ass theories

Someone who takes a non sourced pic about ugly lefties with the same pinch of uglyness as they do as stormfront show of ugliness, would you prefer i use a source of something like facebook, where there is just as much ugly as sf, on both sides??
Sorry to have injured sensibilities? im not.




Kirata -> RE: Shots fired (10/4/2013 3:12:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Someone who takes a non sourced pic about ugly lefties...

Well, I wasn't reacting to the ugliness in the clip. There's plenty of that on both sides. Both sides interpret the shutdown in a way that allows them to reason that the blame is the other side, and both sides think that the other side's reasoning is crap. On reflection, I guess I should have trimmed the photo. What caught my eye was the willingness of some people to just make shit up wholesale and assume it's reality because the idea appeared in their pristinely flawless minds. To wit, that the shooter was a gun-toting black-hating white TeaParty racist.

Except that there was no shooter, of course, and the individual was a black female. But hey, why wait for facts when you know you're right?

K.





Esinn -> RE: Shots fired (10/4/2013 8:10:20 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: TNDommeK

Does anyone else find anything fishy about the whole mental health issue. It seems that anything that has to do with politics and guns or violence involves a mentally unstable person.



They found 2 prescriptions. ABC seems to have sensationalized the story as of 1-2 hours ago reports are all over. The sources as of 49 seconds - 2 hours ago on typical "news clipping sites" are still 100% unable to verify the story she was a mental case. While I do not know she could have been on meds many of my friends have - with similar illnesses. And any fucker who is going to suggest they can turn into homicidal maniacs - needs your dildo in their ass.

What we know for sure - less sensationalized media reports. A working and otherwise sane mother (until the incident) was driving with her 1 yr old child in the car. Is it at all possible she could have accidentally slammed into the first barrier (have you seen the videos?) it looks legit, it could have been an accident. Sometimes us humans who fuck up "hardcore" we panic. Most humans are not trained to deal with such levels of stress or anxiety. Multiple men whip out and point guns at her, the vehicle and child while screaming. 9 shots were fired. All (ALL) initial reports she had a gun were 100% made up. "Fight or Flight" - it is hardwired into us. It look like momma bear chose flight with her child. Irresponsible, stupid, wrong - mmhmmm. Men were chasing her with guns bullet holes in her vehicles, helicopters on the way. had to be pretty fucking scary. I mentioned on linked in. I do not know if anyone has ever been shot at in a "non-war zone" by LE or others in general. It is quite a strange feeling -you just want to get the hell out.

There are many ways to stop a moving vehicle. Anyhow - 19 shots later 1 dead black lady. Media reports she is a nut case. They justify it by saying she could have had a car bomb, she could have been a terrorist, she could have been taliban, she might have been a suicide bomber.

Possibly she was a fucking psycho. BUT WHAT if she was just this mamma bear who made a wrong turn. That is quite a bit of typing but I have been discussing this for the last day or two in FLEA/LE forums on linked in or other places (policeintelligence).... Their responses it was absolute justifiable - without the full story - investigation still on going - OMFG




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