Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

RE: Tea Party and Science


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> RE: Tea Party and Science Page: <<   < prev  1 2 [3] 4 5   next >   >>
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: Tea Party and Science - 10/18/2013 8:22:56 AM   
Nosathro


Posts: 3319
Joined: 9/25/2005
From: Orange County, California
Status: offline 		Was there any mention of which "science" they were talking about? Biology, Sociology, Physics? Or are we saying something like High School Science 101?

(in reply to LanceHughes)
Profile   Post #: 41
RE: Tea Party and Science - 10/18/2013 8:26:26 AM   
mnottertail


Posts: 60698
Joined: 11/3/2004
Status: offline 		Yes there was in the article Kirata linked.

a composite from here:

http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/seind12/

Turns out that the rightwingers are pretty ignorant as that article actually pointed out.

_____________________________

Have they not divided the prey; to every man a damsel or two? Judges 5:30


(in reply to Nosathro)
Profile   Post #: 42
RE: Tea Party and Science - 10/18/2013 8:54:51 AM   
Nosathro


Posts: 3319
Joined: 9/25/2005
From: Orange County, California
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Yes there was in the article Kirata linked.

a composite from here:

http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/seind12/

Turns out that the rightwingers are pretty ignorant as that article actually pointed out.


It still does not say which if any of the sciences. And a 2000 test population, a bit small. I think this guy is more correct about the error in the study:

Instead of a test of factual knowledge about science, use a test of understanding of how and why science works.

. Instead of CRT and numeracy - which are also heavily influenced by factual knowledge about (e.g.) algebra - use a measure of actively open-minded thinking (AOT). Even an 8-item measure of beliefs about how thinking should be conducted is quite useful for predicting many things

Jon Baron

(in reply to mnottertail)
Profile   Post #: 43
RE: Tea Party and Science - 10/18/2013 10:03:04 AM   
GotSteel


Posts: 5871
Joined: 2/19/2008
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Yachtie
Disputing science is not a bad thing.


It is when the dispute comes from a place of ignorance.

(in reply to Yachtie)
Profile   Post #: 44
RE: Tea Party and Science - 10/18/2013 10:16:05 AM   
Phydeaux


Posts: 4828
Joined: 1/4/2004
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

It really doesn't matter whether teabaggers know more a little more science than the average voter. Or a little less .....

What matters is that the Right, especially the Religious Right, ignores or disputes science far more often. (Climate change and creationism being two cases in point.)



Interesting how you conflate the Religious right with the Tea Party.

(in reply to tweakabelle)
Profile   Post #: 45
RE: Tea Party and Science - 10/18/2013 10:23:46 AM   
RacerJim


Posts: 1583
Joined: 1/1/2004
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: GotSteel


quote:

ORIGINAL: Yachtie
Disputing science is not a bad thing.


It is when the dispute comes from a place of ignorance.

The place of ignorance is believing in human caused global warming when the fact of the matter is that humans weren't around to end the last ice-age.

(in reply to GotSteel)
Profile   Post #: 46
RE: Tea Party and Science - 10/18/2013 10:30:54 AM   
mnottertail


Posts: 60698
Joined: 11/3/2004
Status: offline 		I don't even think the nutsackers for all their imbecility believe that humans caused global warming before humans existed. However they existed last ice age.

Q.E.D. on the teabaggers and science knowledge I should think.

< Message edited by mnottertail -- 10/18/2013 10:31:22 AM >

_____________________________

Have they not divided the prey; to every man a damsel or two? Judges 5:30


(in reply to RacerJim)
Profile   Post #: 47
RE: Tea Party and Science - 10/18/2013 10:34:17 AM   
Yachtie


Posts: 3593
Joined: 1/18/2012
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

I don't even think the nutsackers for all their imbecility believe that humans caused global warming before humans existed. However they existed last ice age.

Q.E.D. on the teabaggers and science knowledge I should think.



Q.E.D. on not getting the point.

_____________________________

“We all know it’s going to end badly, but in the meantime we can make some money.” - Jim Cramer, CNBC

“Those who ‘abjure’ violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf.” - George Orwell

(in reply to mnottertail)
Profile   Post #: 48
RE: Tea Party and Science - 10/18/2013 10:39:09 AM   
mnottertail


Posts: 60698
Joined: 11/3/2004
Status: offline 		Yeah, I never could get the point of hallucinatory horseshit. I have an intellectual starch-blocker that flares up when moronic shit is spewed in geysers by those who haven't any basic connections to anything that is real and factual.

Q.E.D.

_____________________________

Have they not divided the prey; to every man a damsel or two? Judges 5:30


(in reply to Yachtie)
Profile   Post #: 49
RE: Tea Party and Science - 10/18/2013 1:38:19 PM   
joether


Posts: 5195
Joined: 7/24/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: RacerJim
quote:

ORIGINAL: GotSteel
quote:

ORIGINAL: Yachtie
Disputing science is not a bad thing.

It is when the dispute comes from a place of ignorance.

The place of ignorance is believing in human caused global warming when the fact of the matter is that humans weren't around to end the last ice-age.


If you really believe that scientists do not take stuff like that into account, then it demonstrates clearly your ignorance on the science. One of the very first questions asked about twenty years ago, was whether the effects of climate change were not simply just the normal 'heat/cooling' cycle the planet has gone through previously. The evidence then and more importantly now, show this is not a normal cycle but something else entirely. Scientists did not come out and just say "oh, its all the humans fault". They had to remove variables from the equation, and test the concept a multitude times over. Its all there in the hundreds of thousands of journals to be had in any decent scientifically accredited college or university. Go have a read.

(in reply to RacerJim)
Profile   Post #: 50
RE: Tea Party and Science - 10/18/2013 2:13:03 PM   
GotSteel


Posts: 5871
Joined: 2/19/2008
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


quote:

ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

It really doesn't matter whether teabaggers know more a little more science than the average voter. Or a little less .....

What matters is that the Right, especially the Religious Right, ignores or disputes science far more often. (Climate change and creationism being two cases in point.)


Interesting how you conflate the Religious right with the Tea Party.


Um...where did she do that? Also are they two seperate group and if so what's the difference?

(in reply to Phydeaux)
Profile   Post #: 51
RE: Tea Party and Science - 10/18/2013 2:29:07 PM   
Moonhead


Posts: 16520
Joined: 9/21/2009
Status: offline 		Apparently the religious right are there to make the teabaggers look like they understand science...


_____________________________

I like to think he was eaten by rats, in the dark, during a fog. It's what he would have wanted...
(Simon R Green on the late James Herbert)

(in reply to GotSteel)
Profile   Post #: 52
RE: Tea Party and Science - 10/18/2013 3:12:48 PM   
Hillwilliam


Posts: 19394
Joined: 8/27/2008
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


quote:

ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

It really doesn't matter whether teabaggers know more a little more science than the average voter. Or a little less .....

What matters is that the Right, especially the Religious Right, ignores or disputes science far more often. (Climate change and creationism being two cases in point.)



Interesting how you conflate the Religious right with the Tea Party.

There is a very significant overlap between the 2 groups.

_____________________________

Kinkier than a cheap garden hose.

Whoever said "Religion is the opiate of the masses" never heard Right Wing talk radio.

Don't blame me, I voted for Gary Johnson.

(in reply to Phydeaux)
Profile   Post #: 53
RE: Tea Party and Science - 10/18/2013 3:33:51 PM   
PeonForHer


Posts: 19612
Joined: 9/27/2008
Status: offline 		FR

A Q for those who are informed: Are there any Tea Party atheists?

_____________________________

http://www.domme-chronicles.com


(in reply to Hillwilliam)
Profile   Post #: 54
RE: Tea Party and Science - 10/18/2013 4:05:05 PM   
Owner59


Posts: 17033
Joined: 3/14/2006
From: Dirty Jersey
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Yachtie


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

I don't even think the nutsackers for all their imbecility believe that humans caused global warming before humans existed. However they existed last ice age.

Q.E.D. on the teabaggers and science knowledge I should think.



Q.E.D. on not getting the point.



If only the teajadists were as up on math and finance .....

_____________________________

"As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals"

President Obama

(in reply to Yachtie)
Profile   Post #: 55
RE: Tea Party and Science - 10/18/2013 4:14:10 PM   
PeonForHer


Posts: 19612
Joined: 9/27/2008
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

FR

A Q for those who are informed: Are there any Tea Party atheists?


I'll take that as a 'No', then.

My next question: have there been any bears that have disdained to shit in the woods and have instead always trekked to the nearest hotel to defecate in its washroom in a civilised and cultured fashion?

_____________________________

http://www.domme-chronicles.com


(in reply to PeonForHer)
Profile   Post #: 56
RE: Tea Party and Science - 10/18/2013 4:48:14 PM   
DomKen


Posts: 19457
Joined: 7/4/2004
From: Chicago, IL
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Yachtie


quote:

ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

It really doesn't matter whether teabaggers know more a little more science than the average voter.

What matters is that the Right, especially the Religious Right, ignores or disputes science far more often. (Climate change and creationism being two cases in point.)




Disputing science is not a bad thing. What is a bad thing is accepting science simply because, well, it's science.

The Economist author is clearly an idiot or thinks his readers are. How would a scientist somewhere else know to even attempt to replicate a finding unless it was published? The whole point of the publication system is to put out a finding so others can verify it and build upon it. Of course sometimes the initial finding is wrong for some reason and later work proves that.

(in reply to Yachtie)
Profile   Post #: 57
RE: Tea Party and Science - 10/18/2013 8:24:43 PM   
NoBimbosAllowed


Posts: 1450
Joined: 9/19/2013
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen


The whole point of the publication system is to put out a finding so others can verify it and build upon it. Of course sometimes the initial finding is wrong for some reason and later work proves that.


Kinda like both Old and New Testaments.

_____________________________

It's all about the curvature of the female azzzzzzzzzzz, meaning Niki Minaj and Serena Williams and Kate Cerebrano, NEVER Kylie Minogue! Wooden Spoons and Ottoman scenes from Story of O, baby dolls!

(in reply to DomKen)
Profile   Post #: 58
RE: Tea Party and Science - 10/18/2013 8:57:38 PM   
tweakabelle


Posts: 7522
Joined: 10/16/2007
From: Sydney Australia
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


quote:

ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

It really doesn't matter whether teabaggers know more a little more science than the average voter. Or a little less .....

What matters is that the Right, especially the Religious Right, ignores or disputes science far more often. (Climate change and creationism being two cases in point.)



Interesting how you conflate the Religious right with the Tea Party.

Interesting how you ignore the serious point while inventing a wholly contrived point to masquerade as a response

Should your silence on my assertion that the Right, and especially the Religious Right ignores science far more often than those to their left, be interpreted as agreement with my assertion?

< Message edited by tweakabelle -- 10/18/2013 8:59:46 PM >

_____________________________



(in reply to Phydeaux)
Profile   Post #: 59
RE: Tea Party and Science - 10/18/2013 9:11:44 PM   
NoBimbosAllowed


Posts: 1450
Joined: 9/19/2013
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: tweakabelle



Interesting how you conflate the Religious right with the Tea Party.

Interesting how you ignore the serious point while inventing a wholly contrived point to masquerade as a response




Kinda like Ian MacDonald "conflated things", or Peter Slipper conflated trips to wine fueled fun with rightful uses of taxpayer funded taxi-vouchers?

Peter Slipper is/was an atheist beloved of the lefty Oz Sydneyite voting demographic blocks, correct?

Maybe Mr Atheist Slipper could have done well to have some Faith in basic arithmatic instead of betting on faulty Chaos Thory that led to him being completely caught out and farting egg-omelette on every wannabe Clover Moore's face.

_____________________________

It's all about the curvature of the female azzzzzzzzzzz, meaning Niki Minaj and Serena Williams and Kate Cerebrano, NEVER Kylie Minogue! Wooden Spoons and Ottoman scenes from Story of O, baby dolls!

(in reply to tweakabelle)
Profile   Post #: 60
Page:   <<   < prev  1 2 [3] 4 5   next >   >>
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> RE: Tea Party and Science Page: <<   < prev  1 2 [3] 4 5   next >   >>
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.109