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RE: obamacare 2 points up! - 10/24/2013 10:12:05 PM   
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RE: obamacare 2 points up! - 10/25/2013 1:12:44 AM   
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The analysis showed huge variations among states: A family of four making $50,000 in Wyoming, for instance, would pay $1,237 a month on average for a midlevel plan before subsidies, compared to $584 a month on average in Tennessee. After subsidies are added in, however, the cost to both families would be $282 because the amount they pay is linked to their income, not to the cost of coverage.

http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/stories/2013/september/25/federal-exchange-rates-lower-than-expected.aspx

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RE: obamacare 2 points up! - 10/25/2013 2:45:29 AM   
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RE: obamacare 2 points up! - 10/25/2013 2:55:54 AM   
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http://www.gallup.com/poll/165548/approval-affordable-care-act-inches.aspx

"October 23, 2013
Approval of Affordable Care Act Inches Up
More Democrats now approve of the law, while most Republicans still disapprove
by Frank Newport
PRINCETON, NJ -- Despite the highly publicized technical issues that have plagued the government's health insurance exchange website that went live on Oct. 1, Americans' views of the Affordable Care Act are slightly more positive now than they were in August. Forty-five percent now approve of the law, while 50% disapprove, for a net approval score of -5. In June and August, net approval was slightly lower, at -8.



These results come from a Gallup poll conducted Oct. 18-20, a few days after the end of the recent government shutdown -- which centered on partisan debates over funding the healthcare law -- and as media coverage of the poorly functioning health exchange sites increased. The results suggest that the problems with the health exchanges have not negatively affected Americans' overall views of the law, at least to this point."


Just wanna say Im happy that a few of the people I know who have signed up are happy with their new found insurance abilities!!!!!


And yet mysteriously (well, mysteriously for all the liberal mouth-breathers anyway), it looks like that many Democrats are now supporting delays in implementing the Obummercare mandate. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/10/24/democrats-waver-obamacare-delay-hagan/3181655/

CNN is even putting out tweets that they believe every Dem up for re-election is going to try to get the mandate pushed back until after the next election.
https://twitter.com/DanaBashCNN/status/393110100153352192

It's pretty funny how many braindead liberal voters are supporting the Unaffordable Care Act, considering how fast Dem leaders are trying to distance themselves from it. It was a bad law passed entirely by the Dumbocrats. Now, after fighting the Republicans to make sure it would be implemented, they're all trying to make it look like they tried to stop it. LOL, you just can't make this shit up...

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RE: obamacare 2 points up! - 10/25/2013 3:08:44 AM   
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Nooooo, got nothing to do with that...
keep dreaming up your *cant make this shit up" rhetoric...Ill get you a breathmint

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RE: obamacare 2 points up! - 10/25/2013 3:20:49 AM   
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How can you be against a law that the chosen one has brought you as if he were Moses, carrying the tablets themselves?

What's amusing to me is the typical leftist "politics of fear" bullshit that paints anyone that doesn't fall into lock-step as anti-American. Although, I guess it worked well for Joe McCarthy for a little while ...





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RE: obamacare 2 points up! - 10/25/2013 3:47:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		The U.S. individual health insurance market currently totals about 19 million people. Because the Obama administration's regulations on grandfathering existing plans were so stringent about 85% of those, 16 million, are not grandfathered and must comply with Obamacare at their next renewal. The rules are very complex. For example, if you had an individual plan in March of 2010 when the law was passed and you only increased the deductible from $1,000 to $1,500 in the years since, your plan has lost its grandfather status and it will no longer be available to you when it would have renewed in 2014.

These 16 million people are now receiving letters from their carriers saying they are losing their current coverage and must re-enroll in order to avoid a break in coverage and comply with the new health law's benefit mandates––the vast majority by January 1. Most of these will be seeing some pretty big rate increases.

http://healthpolicyandmarket.blogspot.com/2013/10/week-two-of-obamacare-federal-health.html#more

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RE: obamacare 2 points up! - 10/25/2013 3:49:27 AM   
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RE: obamacare 2 points up! - 10/25/2013 4:06:42 AM   
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Of course, the IRS would never target someone for an audit who owed money...


Oh forget that! The IRS would never target people just because they had a conservative oriention.

Oh wait.

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RE: obamacare 2 points up! - 10/25/2013 4:11:47 AM   
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The analysis showed huge variations among states: A family of four making $50,000 in Wyoming, for instance, would pay $1,237 a month on average for a midlevel plan before subsidies, compared to $584 a month on average in Tennessee. After subsidies are added in, however, the cost to both families would be $282 because the amount they pay is linked to their income, not to the cost of coverage.

http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/stories/2013/september/25/federal-exchange-rates-lower-than-expected.aspx



LOL.. this has already been debunked numerous times. For the younger brackets they presumed 27. For the older brackets(50+) they chose 50.

To say that that number is representative of the group as a whole is, well, a lie.

But, who ya gonna believe - a democratic ally (Kaiser) or the non partisan CBO.

Yeah. Tough call.

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RE: obamacare 2 points up! - 10/25/2013 7:44:32 AM   
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RE: obamacare 2 points up! - 10/25/2013 3:01:57 PM   
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face it, if you're smart, skilled ,and have a good well paying job, you don't qualify for a lot of government subsides. If you're Liberal, know everything except how to get a well paying job, you qualify for government help. So the dummies will love Obamacare!


But conservatives are not very often smart, skilled or have good paying jobs, nor are liberal. What do they do?

Its all fair. If you don't have the skills and brains to command a good salary, you will get government help to pay for your healthcare. Conservative or Liberal. Its just that the Liberals must think they need this "extra government help." They know their situation better than me.

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RE: obamacare 2 points up! - 10/25/2013 3:07:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's official. MSNBC announces this afternoon, on every show, it is Hannity's fault people are not signing up for Obamacare because of his and the GOP's lies, lies and more lies about Obamacare. Ed and the Rev are actually screaming and yelling. It is a hoot to watch these losers. They remind me of used car salespersons.
UPdate: A talking head looked us in the eye and let us know how responsible and caring and open Obama has been. I choked.

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RE: obamacare 2 points up! - 10/25/2013 3:44:43 PM   
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It's official. MSNBC announces this afternoon, on every show, it is Hannity's fault people are not signing up for Obamacare because of his and the GOP's lies, lies and more lies about Obamacare.

So who was it prevented the ACA carrying a single payer provision that might have made it a lot more beneficial to people besides medical insurance companies if it wasn't the GOP, then?

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RE: obamacare 2 points up! - 10/25/2013 3:58:18 PM   
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face it, if you're smart, skilled ,and have a good well paying job, you don't qualify for a lot of government subsides. If you're Liberal, know everything except how to get a well paying job, you qualify for government help. So the dummies will love Obamacare!


But conservatives are not very often smart, skilled or have good paying jobs, nor are liberal. What do they do?

Its all fair. If you don't have the skills and brains to command a good salary, you will get government help to pay for your healthcare. Conservative or Liberal. Its just that the Liberals must think they need this "extra government help." They know their situation better than me.



I expect that is why so many red states get more federal money than they put in all the lack of skills so amply demonstrated by the nutsackers down there.


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RE: obamacare 2 points up! - 10/25/2013 4:05:48 PM   
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Of course, the IRS would never target someone for an audit who owed money...


Oh forget that! The IRS would never target people just because they had a conservative oriention.

Oh wait.


Yeah you forgot it because it never happened. That was nutsacker lies.



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RE: obamacare 2 points up! - 10/25/2013 4:14:46 PM   
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I don't want to sign up.

Kaiser has cancelled our policy and our premium has gone up from $477 a month for a good policy to $605 a month for their lowest level of coverage which is so crappy we might as well have nothing.

At this point we're considering taking the penalty and putting the difference into a managed care account.


You could always look on the exchange and see what is out there. Very few people will actually pay more for equivalent coverage.


I can get slightly better coverage than the ACA for the same cost as the ACA directly through a carrier. But, that's not the point. I had a good policy that I could afford. Now, I am being forced to pay more for less. I'm being punished for being middle class and I don't think that's fair.

How would you know until you look?

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RE: obamacare 2 points up! - 10/25/2013 8:18:43 PM   
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obamacare 2 points up!


Fucking cheerleaders...

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RE: obamacare 2 points up! - 10/25/2013 8:31:50 PM   
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RE: obamacare 2 points up! - 10/25/2013 9:04:05 PM   
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It's official. MSNBC announces this afternoon, on every show, it is Hannity's fault people are not signing up for Obamacare because of his and the GOP's lies, lies and more lies about Obamacare.

So who was it prevented the ACA carrying a single payer provision that might have made it a lot more beneficial to people besides medical insurance companies if it wasn't the GOP, then?


So, turning that at a different angle, you say Obamacare "might" be impossible unless it is a single payer system, that is, the same Government that screwed this up would now be in charge of everyone's health coverage and the GOP prevented that? Yay GOP!
That is incredible.

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