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shorty123 -> RE: very new (10/29/2013 9:01:15 PM)

that is the best thing any one as said t me so far but dose it get easy to rember all the rules and no it as a been since the start in away




shorty123 -> RE: very new (10/29/2013 9:03:02 PM)

we have only been togeather a year




subpnw -> RE: very new (10/29/2013 9:04:26 PM)

If he is like my first Master, he may choose to use a good swat or 2 (or 5 or 10) on the butt as an inspiration to remember his rules.




youthinkso121 -> RE: very new (10/29/2013 9:14:25 PM)

So you have been together real time, not online for a year, and you're still guessing what he wants??

He's the dominant, cant he tell you???




KnightofMists -> RE: very new (10/30/2013 7:27:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: shorty123

well thanks he just keep sying something about me need training or some like that and I do not know what that means and he has so many rules it is hard for me to remember all of them will I ever


Sometimes.... This is the problem of the trainer and not the trainee. Everyone has there own learning style and speed. I find most new masters make this mistake over and over again.

It's easy to make a rule...... But Masterhood comes when you can have a person follow said rule with grace and desire.




AthenaSurrenders -> RE: very new (10/30/2013 7:55:22 AM)

Why are the rules hard to remember?

- Do you not fully understand them? It's hard to stick to things which don't make sense to us. Ask to spend an evening going over everything in detail.

- Are they pointless rules? It's easy to remember to buy his brand of soda, or to do the dishes, or to give him a massage, because you can see the point and the effect these things have. If you have tons and tons of rules which feel like they were just made up for the sake of having rules, it's much harder to keep them in mind. If you're still struggling after a year, perhaps it's time for you both to sit down and figure out WHY these rules are in place - how do they make his life better? If you can understand the need you're more likely to remember. If they don't have a need, perhaps it's time to reconsider whether you should have them, or if they just cause unnecessary stress.

- Are you just a disorganised person? This is an easy fix. Put things in a diary, set alerts on your phone and computer, put sticky notes in places - have him help you figure out solutions and make sure you practice them until they become habit

- Are you trying to break old habits? It's really, really tough to change things you do without thinking about it. If this is what's happening he might just need to be patient and again, help you find ways to remember. For example, perhaps he wanted you to stop biting your nails. You could make sure you always have a nail file handy, and use bitter nail polish, and have him clear his throat to remind you if you are about to put your fingers in your mouth. Tons of things like this can help.

- Do you just not care enough? This could come about from any of the above problems, or because you don't respect him, or aren't getting your needs met in the relationship. It's hard to care if you don't feel cared about. This one requires some soul searching and some honesty. Only you know if you are giving this 100% and only you know if you are happy in the relationship. Constantly being told that you have failed is demoralising. Perhaps his style of dominance doesn't suit your needs. He sounds like a micromanager, with tons of rules. Perhaps that feels stifling for you and you are pushing back against it? Or perhaps he is giving you rules and not supporting you to learn how to do them right? Think hard. The only fix to this is open communication and both people really working hard to fix it.

- Are the rules unreasonable? Is there just not enough time in the day to do everything he requires? Do you have a high stress job and his rules interfere with you getting your work done? Is he expecting you to carry out difficult tasks that you never learned how to do? Again, you need to be honest with yourself about where you are slacking off and where things are really not reasonable. Then you need to talk with him about it. Both people should be getting what they need in this relationship. If he's asking things that you genuinely can't comply with, then you're doomed to fail.

- Is he setting you up to fail? Does he enjoy doling out punishments? Is he looking for excuses to punish you and then have kinky sex? This is a common newbie mistake. If he wants to do spanking and have fun times, he should be able to do that without making you fail at something first - he's the dom, so he can spank you whenever he likes. If you suspect he's deliberately making things difficult so he can punish you, you need to let him know how that makes you feel. I know I would find it depressing to be constantly told I'm not good enough. I say this happens a lot with new people - that can also be because the dominant might think he isn't dom unless he's constantly making rules and giving out beatings, which simply isn't true. If he's the boss, he's the dom, even if he never barks orders.

- Are you failing on purpose? Either because you enjoy the punishment or the attention, or because you think that's how these relationships 'should' be? If so I'm sure you're learning that this gets old really fast.

- Are they rules which are making you unhappy? If you were totally new to this when you got with him, chances are you didn't know your limits or what you needed from the relationship. Just because you're the sub doesn't mean you never get another chance to say what you need. A decent dominant will understand that as you learn more about yourself and about D/s, things will change and need to be renegotiated. Perhaps it's time to do that now.

- Is it just too much, too soon? I'm guessing not, since this is a year on and that should be plenty of time to learn all the rules. On the other hand, if there are hundreds and you were expected to know from day one, he has an unrealistic idea of what most people are capable of.

Will it get easier? Not unless you figure out the reason you are struggling.

Here's a pro tip. You are a team. You are both on the same side. If something isn't working, you both get your hands dirty to fix it. The relationship is only working when both of you are getting what you need. It sounds to me like he is saying 'not good enough' and you don't know how to fix it. You BOTH need to sit down and work out a solution. Being the dom doesn't excuse him from working on this with you. Nor does it excuse him from making compromises. Sometimes the fantasy D/s relationship in our heads doesn't work with a real live person. If he won't work with you or compromise, then I humbly suggest that the two of you are not on the same team, and the relationship isn't going to get any better. Do NOT keep score of who did what, or how a 'real' sub/dom acts, or who got their own way more times - the moment you start scoring points off each other, you are on opposing teams.

There is a strong argument for 'submit'. In general, I agree, if you want to be the submissive, you actually have to submit to what he wants. But if after a year you still can't keep track of all his rules, something isn't working and it needs to be fixed before you go any further. Perhaps it's your communication style, but you are giving me the impression that you are supposed to do all the work to solve this problem because you are the sub, and if so, maybe you need to step out of the sub role and talk about this as equals.




BlkTallFullfig -> RE: very new (10/30/2013 8:03:44 AM)

Tell him to give you a few rules at a time please, and allow you time to get those mastered/done, before he continues with the next set.
Asking your master how to please him, and finding your comfort within this relationship, is going to be dependent on both of you being able to communicate, his willingness to teach/lead, and your willingness to learn, and follow/obey. There is also the option of reading books related to D/s, and BDSM to guide you on your way.
Good luck, M




ChatteParfaitt -> RE: very new (10/30/2013 8:24:23 AM)

If your listening skills are on par with your writing skills, I strongly recommend improving your ability to communicate. I'm not saying this to be mean, but to be helpful.

(As an example, you came to this forum asking for help, but provided so little information people are attempting to pry information out of you just so they can understand the basics.)

Please re-read Athena's post until you understand her bullet points and can formulate an answer to each one, at least in your own head.

Please continue asking for assistance here, even if you suck at communicating what you need. Your skills will build as you use them. Not everyone is good at everything, but we can get better if we are motivated.







Blankpain -> RE: very new (10/30/2013 1:08:59 PM)

The op sounds like a 10 year old.........




shorty123 -> RE: very new (11/1/2013 10:53:34 PM)

I have said before he is a real life master I have been with him for a year and I was just wonding if there was a tick to remembering the rule some of the replys on here are very close to mean there are somethings I do not want to ask my master for fear of sounding dumb so I reach out to u guys and end up feeling dumb any ways I am a nice person who just wants to talk to other people in the lifestyle I am sorry if any one on here thinks bad of me but I was thiking if I talked to other people they would help me so I could fiigture out if I was doing the wrong thing is there a way to bring thing up to my master without disrespecting him and with out sounding dumb I have said before I am new to this and to add more trouble we have room mates




shorty123 -> RE: very new (11/1/2013 10:57:51 PM)

who is op I swear I am not ten if u were talking to me just new and started thins post to to find out the tricks from other people who have been in the life style longer then me




shorty123 -> RE: very new (11/2/2013 12:04:56 AM)

that is acaully what he has started to do and he keeps asking why I don't just talk to him but some time I do not what to sound dumb so I truned to collar me for help thanks for not being mean or making me feel dumb some people on here have said some thing that sound a little mean they don't seem to get that I have only been doing this for a year I love it and I love my master it is just a little hard some times for me to talk to him




shorty123 -> RE: very new (11/2/2013 12:09:06 AM)

he could if I knew how to bring it up I have a bad thing about timeing I always seem to bring it up when he is in a bad mood




shorty123 -> RE: very new (11/2/2013 12:34:45 AM)

wow that was a lot said the reason after a year I don't get the rules is because I get easily side tracked I can remember that I am not to speack unless spokeing to but some time if something pops in to my head I just got to say it and I can remember that I am to do the thing on my master list but some times when he is at work I have have a friend who pops in to say hi and I do not want to be rude so I talk to them and lose track of time but now that I have seen some of thing said on here I now to do much better I have the rules in writeing and look at it often throw out the day and when friends pop in I now say to them I would love to talk but I have some thing to do there are still some people in my life that do not kniow my life style because I know they will under stand so I tell my friends that I have work to do and if they want to talk they can talk to me when I am done have seat and as for the I can speak unless spoke to me and master have come up with a plan for that to if I go to speak when I am not suppose to he gives me a look to get me to stop and think things are getting better there are some rule I still for get about because to me they just don't seem important and master say he want me to work on this and I am trying but one of my issues is that I have bad timeing when it comes to wanting to talk to the master about the rule I do not understand I seem to bring it up when he is a bad mood




shorty123 -> RE: very new (11/2/2013 12:56:41 AM)

ok chatteparfaitt I need u to understand this I did not want to say this but I am mildly learning disabled and dyslexic I sometimes see and write thing backswards and so what I cant spell I have shunt to take water off my brain but I am still no different then u able to every thing u do iam normal maybe a little slow but I don't put people down bwfore I ask them why it is they do thing they do and even then I don't do it it is not right I was in ld classes and been dealing with bullys my whole life so next time please have a little more kindness to email someone frist before u call them out in a public way I am a kind and care and forgiveing person who try her best to be normal my master understands I am sorry if u don't like the way I am I wont post on here no more if I am going to be called out and backed in to a corner and have to tell people I am disable and be judged I had to deal with has a kid but I should not have to go throw it as adult please understand that I am still human I live life the same way u do I have cp also but I don't let it stop me for being in this life style it was my idea to get in to it I knew master was in to the lifestyle when I met him I love the life style so what it is hard for to remember all of the rules I did not start this post to be put down I started this post because I wanted tips and trick from people who have been in the lifestyle longer then me and also to meet others in the lifestyle pealse be a little nicer next time ad if u don't know something just ask before u assume it is one way thank u and I am sorry if this seems a little mean it just ur commits are very harsh




shorty123 -> RE: very new (11/2/2013 12:59:38 AM)

and also chatteparfaitt some of them are typeos hit the wrong keys




ChatteParfaitt -> RE: very new (11/2/2013 1:34:45 AM)

That was not me being mean, I can assure you.

I was being as kind as I could and still be honest. If you can't handle honest, then you will have a very rough ride in life.

I'm sorry about your issues, but I'm not a mind reader, nor is anyone else on this forum. If your Master knows you have issues, then perhaps he should be the one helping you deal with them.

You're not providing enough specific info about what you're having trouble remembering -- if you did. you might get some tips.

I truly do wish you the best.







LafayetteLady -> RE: very new (11/2/2013 3:22:25 AM)

Considering the issues you have, it seems as though your partner is overburdening you with toomany rules too quickly. Note I didn't call him your master because based on what you said, he isn't behaving as one.

Its very simple to come up with a long list of rules, but when dealing with someone who has some mental challenges as you do, that needs to be taken into consideration. Even for someone without your handicaps, too many rules all at once can pose challenges.

As someone else already mentioned, you need to discuss how this is troubling you. There are two of you in this relationship and it isn't all about him. If you can focus on a smaller number of rules until those become habit and then add a couple more until those are habit and so on, you are in a better position to be sucessful in following the rules.

If he is unwilling to take that into consideration, there really won't be a happy future to your relationship.




DarkSteven -> RE: very new (11/2/2013 5:02:50 AM)

I'm sorry, but I'm having a hard time getting a handle on this.

How many rules are there? If there are three, you shouldn't have an issue following them. If there are forty, that's too many for anyone.

How specific are they? If they're something like "shorty will clean the cat's litter box every Friday at 6 PM", that's easy to do or not do. If they're subjective like "shorty will be cheerful at all times", it's his call whether you're complying or not.

How do you feel doing them? Are you happy, knowing this is your way to please him? Are you scared, thinking that it won;t be good enough? Are you resentful of the tasks you must do?

Oh, yeah, I almost forgot. Welcome to the forums.




kalikshama -> RE: very new (11/2/2013 5:17:17 AM)

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I can remember that I am to do the thing on my master list but some times when he is at work I have have a friend who pops in to say hi and I do not want to be rude so I talk to them and lose track of time but now that I have seen some of thing said on here I now to do much better I have the rules in writeing and look at it often throw out the day and when friends pop in I now say to them I would love to talk but I have some thing to do there are still some people in my life that do not kniow my life style because I know they will under stand so I tell my friends that I have work to do and if they want to talk they can talk to me when I am done have seat


Before I can advise you about this specific incidence, I need to know what it is you are supposed to be doing that your friend's visits prevents you from doing.






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