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Yachtie -> RE: OBAMA LIED!!! (11/3/2013 1:09:42 PM)

FR

Obamacare architect Ezekiel Emanuel, a former adviser to the Obama White House, admitted today that, if Democrats have their way, the individual insurance market is going away.

As far as I am concerned, Obamacare is similar to once upon a time being told it's just a shower. Some people liked the lie, the idea. Twisted sick minds would.




DomKen -> RE: OBAMA LIED!!! (11/3/2013 1:13:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Snicker.

You need to read more. Valerie wasn't a field agent.

lie. Plame had traveled extensively before being outed as an energy consultant dealing with stopping nuclear proliferation. That she wasn't doing sabotage doesn't mean she didn't have a protected identity.

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Plame's identity was protected that is why she had a cover job. a cover job when revealed also outed an unknown number of other CIA agents. The bullshit about her not being a field agent is a straight up lie. She had spent a great deal of time overseas working under a cover identity.

The special prosecutor found that he could not identify the person who leaked her identity because Libby obstructed justice, a charge for which he was convicted. The prosecutors report makes clear it was likely Cheney with Rove assisting but he, being a good prosecutor, didn't seek an indictment because he did not have sufficient proof.

The lie that her identity was already public is crap and you cannot support it.

Yes, Plame was one of the US governments top experts on nuclear proliferation. That is why she was consulted on who to send to Niger to investigate the claim they had been approached by Iraq to buy yellowcake.

The Butler Inquiry did have make the statement you quote but they fail to provide any evidence that any Iraqi officials did visit Niger and how a flooded and closed for decades mine was to be used to provide them with uranium not under the supervision of the IAEA as all of Niger's operating mines are so monitored.

BTW Niger != Nigeria.




DomKen -> RE: OBAMA LIED!!! (11/3/2013 1:14:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Yachtie

FR

Obamacare architect Ezekiel Emanuel, a former adviser to the Obama White House, admitted today that, if Democrats have their way, the individual insurance market is going away.

As far as I am concerned, Obamacare is similar to once upon a time being told it's just a shower. Some people liked the lie, the idea. Twisted sick minds would.


Did you just compare socializing health care to mass murder?




Lucylastic -> RE: OBAMA LIED!!! (11/3/2013 1:21:06 PM)

Yeah he did.....




Yachtie -> RE: OBAMA LIED!!! (11/3/2013 1:23:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Yeah he did.....



No, actually, I didn't. There is a comparison though, but you'll never understand it.




Kirata -> RE: OBAMA LIED!!! (11/3/2013 1:27:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

there was no evidence of the systematic removal since such a removal would have involved planning by someone in government which would have made it official

Words can't express how relieved I am to know that governments never do anything unofficially.

K.





DomKen -> RE: OBAMA LIED!!! (11/3/2013 1:43:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

there was no evidence of the systematic removal since such a removal would have involved planning by someone in government which would have made it official

Words can't express how relieved I am to know that governments never do anything unofficially.

K.



So you're saying something happened despite there being no evidence it occurred? How very Catholic of you. Maybe you should try and become one of those guys who investigate miracles so the church can declare dead people saints.




cloudboy -> RE: OBAMA LIED!!! (11/3/2013 2:03:13 PM)


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Obamacare architect Ezekiel Emanuel, a former adviser to the Obama White House, admitted today that, if Democrats have their way, the individual insurance market is going away.

GOOD.

If the Democrats can sweep the Republicans out of the House next term, maybe it will happen.




Owner59 -> RE: OBAMA LIED!!! (11/3/2013 2:15:29 PM)

Poll Suggests Americans Want Obamacare Maintained Or Expanded, Not Repealed



http://www.rttnews.com/2215076/Poll-Suggests-Americans-Want-Obamacare-Maintained-Or-Expanded-Not-Repealed.aspx?google_editors_picks=true



[:D]




freedomdwarf1 -> RE: OBAMA LIED!!! (11/3/2013 2:22:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Poll Suggests Americans Want Obamacare Maintained Or Expanded, Not Repealed



http://www.rttnews.com/2215076/Poll-Suggests-Americans-Want-Obamacare-Maintained-Or-Expanded-Not-Repealed.aspx?google_editors_picks=true



[:D]

1,513 adults isn't exactly a large sample though, is it.
Out of a population of 334 million people, you'd think they could find a few more to take part in the poll.




RacerJim -> RE: OBAMA LIED!!! (11/3/2013 2:37:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Poll Suggests Americans Want Obamacare Maintained Or Expanded, Not Repealed



http://www.rttnews.com/2215076/Poll-Suggests-Americans-Want-Obamacare-Maintained-Or-Expanded-Not-Repealed.aspx?google_editors_picks=true



[:D]

1,513 adults isn't exactly a large sample though, is it.
Out of a population of 334 million people, you'd think they could find a few more to take part in the poll.


They could only find 1,513 people out of a population of 334 million who want Obamacareless maintained or expanded. :-)




RottenJohnny -> RE: OBAMA LIED!!! (11/3/2013 2:44:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


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Obamacare architect Ezekiel Emanuel, a former adviser to the Obama White House, admitted today that, if Democrats have their way, the individual insurance market is going away.

GOOD.

If the Democrats can sweep the Republicans out of the House next term, maybe it will happen.

Sure...eliminate an entire market sector creating millions of paychecks just because of what...somebody made a profit on healthcare? Brilliant fucking idea. [8|]




Owner59 -> RE: OBAMA LIED!!! (11/3/2013 2:49:59 PM)

How is it that the private for profit capitalist based business model insurance companies canceling insurance policies is now the governments fault?



Were the policy cancelations done by the predatory insurance industry during all the previous years, up to a month ago the government`s fault too?







Phydeaux -> RE: OBAMA LIED!!! (11/3/2013 5:18:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen.
The Butler Inquiry did have make the statement you quote but they fail to provide any evidence that any Iraqi officials did visit Niger


You mean other than sworn statements by the President and Prime Minister?




Phydeaux -> RE: OBAMA LIED!!! (11/3/2013 5:24:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Snicker.

You need to read more. Valerie wasn't a field agent.

lie. Plame had traveled extensively before being outed as an energy consultant dealing with stopping nuclear proliferation. That she wasn't doing sabotage doesn't mean she didn't have a protected identity.

<deleted lies that go on too long to quote>

Plame's identity was protected that is why she had a cover job. a cover job when revealed also outed an unknown number of other CIA agents. The bullshit about her not being a field agent is a straight up lie. She had spent a great deal of time overseas working under a cover identity.

The special prosecutor found that he could not identify the person who leaked her identity because Libby obstructed justice, a charge for which he was convicted. The prosecutors report makes clear it was likely Cheney with Rove assisting but he, being a good prosecutor, didn't seek an indictment because he did not have sufficient proof.

The lie that her identity was already public is crap and you cannot support it.

Yes, Plame was one of the US governments top experts on nuclear proliferation. That is why she was consulted on who to send to Niger to investigate the claim they had been approached by Iraq to buy yellowcake.

The Butler Inquiry did have make the statement you quote but they fail to provide any evidence that any Iraqi officials did visit Niger and how a flooded and closed for decades mine was to be used to provide them with uranium not under the supervision of the IAEA as all of Niger's operating mines are so monitored.

BTW Niger != Nigeria.



Oh.. so let me get this straight. Plame's cover story for working for the CIA was that... she worked for the CIA.

Oh yeah. That makes a *lot* of sense. In case you couldn't tell that's sarcasm. And the idea that Plame was a field agent is lunacy invented by you.

Especially when the documentation released by the special prosecutor shows she wasn't.




Phydeaux -> RE: OBAMA LIED!!! (11/3/2013 5:27:35 PM)

Obama's Record of Job Creation:

Nationalized the student loan program - destroying that industry.
Nationalized the health care industry. destroying thousands of jobs in that industry.

But look on the bright side. Fewer people working means lower green house gas emissions.

Fewer people that can afford gas....




Phydeaux -> RE: OBAMA LIED!!! (11/3/2013 5:30:16 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

Poll Suggests Americans Want Obamacare Maintained Or Expanded, Not Repealed



http://www.rttnews.com/2215076/Poll-Suggests-Americans-Want-Obamacare-Maintained-Or-Expanded-Not-Repealed.aspx?google_editors_picks=true



[:D]


Proof, that the Kaiser foundation is in the tank for obama. Try a reputable poll.




DomKen -> RE: OBAMA LIED!!! (11/4/2013 3:05:10 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen


quote:

ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

quote:

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

Snicker.

You need to read more. Valerie wasn't a field agent.

lie. Plame had traveled extensively before being outed as an energy consultant dealing with stopping nuclear proliferation. That she wasn't doing sabotage doesn't mean she didn't have a protected identity.

<deleted lies that go on too long to quote>

Plame's identity was protected that is why she had a cover job. a cover job when revealed also outed an unknown number of other CIA agents. The bullshit about her not being a field agent is a straight up lie. She had spent a great deal of time overseas working under a cover identity.

The special prosecutor found that he could not identify the person who leaked her identity because Libby obstructed justice, a charge for which he was convicted. The prosecutors report makes clear it was likely Cheney with Rove assisting but he, being a good prosecutor, didn't seek an indictment because he did not have sufficient proof.

The lie that her identity was already public is crap and you cannot support it.

Yes, Plame was one of the US governments top experts on nuclear proliferation. That is why she was consulted on who to send to Niger to investigate the claim they had been approached by Iraq to buy yellowcake.

The Butler Inquiry did have make the statement you quote but they fail to provide any evidence that any Iraqi officials did visit Niger and how a flooded and closed for decades mine was to be used to provide them with uranium not under the supervision of the IAEA as all of Niger's operating mines are so monitored.

BTW Niger != Nigeria.



Oh.. so let me get this straight. Plame's cover story for working for the CIA was that... she worked for the CIA.

Lie. She worked, as a cover, for Brewster Jennings and Associates.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewster_Jennings_%26_Associates

When will you stop simply making shit up on everything?




FatDomDaddy -> RE: OBAMA LIED!!! (11/4/2013 9:45:50 AM)

Back to topic.... You also cannot keep your doctor:

You Also Can't Keep Your Doctor




freedomdwarf1 -> RE: OBAMA LIED!!! (11/4/2013 10:24:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

Back to topic.... You also cannot keep your doctor:

You Also Can't Keep Your Doctor


And you'll also notice that none of us in a single-payer system, including Australia (which is a mix of both but with state imposed limits on profiteering), that many in the US are screaming against, are not having these troubles. [:D]




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