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Lets start with the breathless line... "It had a pile of clueless conservatives..."
In Massachussetts? Snicker.
The Commonwealth has many conservatives within it. Your laughter simply puts on display who is really ignorant here. Yes, Massachusetts, a 'blue state' has conservatives. Much like Texas, a 'red state' has liberals. One could find this information out rather easily. Their numbers are not equal to or greater than their counter parts on the other side of the isle, but they do exist. And as much you 'dumb down' things to that of a football match, I view it more as a circle. This circle in which all persons that are neutral, are still in some part liberal and/or conservative. To be truly neutral of political viewpoint begs the question....do you even have an opinion? Where do the liberals and conservatives exist in this circle? Who says they have to be in any one place in the circle? Being free in that circle would mean being where you would like to be; assuming you remain considerate of others. I do not expect you to understand what I'm explaining here.
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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux
When the president calls you to help, you help. Oh. Like all the help you liberals gave GW Bush? Snicker.
There were many individuals that joined the Armed Forces that were liberal in viewpoints. They fought in the wars the same as anyone else. They worked in the Bush Administration, just as there are conservatives in the Obama administration. Again, this is something most people understand without the need to belittle others. Apparently you do not live within the United States of America. Its knowledge that comes literally with the territory.
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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux
Then theres the simple errors: you know like reading the ACA is enough - when most of the regulations are being written outside the law. Regulations by the hms, the cms, the IRS...
I never stated you should ONLY read the ACA. But that reading it would help you understand many of the numerous errors you have made in the past. Bad information cost you credibility when you made silly arguments that displayed your lack of knowledge on the subject. And when someone explained the correct information on this and many other subjects, you came back (usually on other threads) with a complete lack of knowledge. Like you had amnesia.
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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux
Regarding that paragon - Massachuttets;
Highest insurance premiums in the nation.
Costs quite a bit to buy a house in this state. And the land the house is on. Buying cars can be expensive. So is buying food. Lobsters right now, are only $3.99/lb, but sadly that's expected to rise in the next few months. Even paying for all the law enforcement for winning the World Series in Red Sox Nation was expensive. So is the insurance premiums for healthcare the highest as you say? The answer might surprise you.
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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux
Costs increasing faster than the states budget by 8%.
By all means, cite your source(s) here.
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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux
Physicians for a National Health Plan, a doctor’s group that supports a fully socialized, single-payer health-care system, warned in a February 2009 report that the new system had failed to reduce medical spending, and has subsequently drawn funding away from crucial health resources such as emergency room care.
I got a chuckle that you inserted that 'socialism' comment in here. Do you NOT know who your debating here, Phydeaux. I'm not some clueless moron that watches just FOX News. I actually went to look up that group, Physicians for a National Health Plan. Anyone can find this organization HERE Anyone that looks will find its the 'about PNHP' section. Within it, it states they are advocating a 'single payer' plan. That is not 'socialized medicine' Phydeaux; that's what CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS were pushing for back ten years BEFORE President Obama came to office. How bad is your knowledge of history? Very bad! In order for healthcare to be 'socialized' as you foolishly think; there would have to be a helluva a lot of legal infrastructure put into place. An that is not likely to happen if ever.
Post a link of the 2009 report by this organization, Phydeaux. Your wrong on just about everything else, its fair to see what this report actually states.
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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux
Dropped coverage for 30,000 legal aliens....
And they were dropped for a reason: The were NOT US Citizens. That's right, in order to qualify for Mass Health itself (that would be state picking up the tab, not an employer or insurance), the person had to be two things: A) A citizen of Massachusetts and B ) A citizen of the USA. Those legal aliens can still obtain healthcare plans as normal, but not through the state directly.
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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/01/10/massachusetts-health-program-a-model-for-obamas-national-reform-strains-state-budget/#ixzz2jNfQkF00
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Look at the date of that post. Jan 1, 2010. What was happening in the nation on Jan 1, 2010? Most of us were recovering from a late night of partying (some were STILL partying). What was going on in relationship to the ACA? The 'Daily Caller' is not known for its 'fair journalism' in that it pushes the conservative agenda where ever and when ever it can. Honestly, the state is doing just fine if not better with its healthcare. Yes, I know you do not understand why, but will keep posting absolutely drivel showing us that you can. Your not a Masshole, so what should you care of the state?
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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux
Anyone can spend money. Especially other people's money. Till you run out of money.
And Republicans doing it exceedingly better than Democrats. For that, you would need to know history, which you have shown time and time again you do not understand.
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