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Phydeaux -> RE: GOP pushback against Tea Party (11/8/2013 3:54:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri So, their supporting black conservatives doesn't mean they aren't racist against blacks? If it's really about the color of their skin, then even black conservatives would be opposed, wouldn't they? I don't see any black conservatives getting elected by the tea party. 1 black conservative got elected in 2010 and he lost his seat as soon as he ran again. The only other black conservative anyone has ever heard of is Alan Keyes who is pretty much the definition of a self hating black man. You never heard of JC Watts? Janice Rogers Brown? Michael Steele?

DaddySatyr -> RE: GOP pushback against Tea Party (11/8/2013 3:57:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phydeaux quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri So, their supporting black conservatives doesn't mean they aren't racist against blacks? If it's really about the color of their skin, then even black conservatives would be opposed, wouldn't they? I don't see any black conservatives getting elected by the tea party. 1 black conservative got elected in 2010 and he lost his seat as soon as he ran again. The only other black conservative anyone has ever heard of is Alan Keyes who is pretty much the definition of a self hating black man. You never heard of JC Watts? Janice Rogers Brown? Michael Steele? I know Dr. Keyes. I worked on his 2000 campaign. He's an honorable man and there's nothing self-hating about him. He just doesn't subscribe to the racist mentality of "anyone with white skin is out to get me". Self-hating, my Irish ass. The man is a beacon.

DomKen -> RE: GOP pushback against Tea Party (11/8/2013 6:11:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr quote: ORIGINAL: Phydeaux quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri So, their supporting black conservatives doesn't mean they aren't racist against blacks? If it's really about the color of their skin, then even black conservatives would be opposed, wouldn't they? I don't see any black conservatives getting elected by the tea party. 1 black conservative got elected in 2010 and he lost his seat as soon as he ran again. The only other black conservative anyone has ever heard of is Alan Keyes who is pretty much the definition of a self hating black man. You never heard of JC Watts? Janice Rogers Brown? Michael Steele? I know Dr. Keyes. I worked on his 2000 campaign. He's an honorable man and there's nothing self-hating about him. He just doesn't subscribe to the racist mentality of "anyone with white skin is out to get me". Self-hating, my Irish ass. The man is a beacon. The man is a self hating loon. He definitely got into Cornell and Harvard on AA but now opposes it. He has been pushing some of the truly dumbest birther stuff ever.

DomKen -> RE: GOP pushback against Tea Party (11/8/2013 6:14:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri Seriously? Are you saying the people I mentioned aren't conservatives? Are you saying the people I mentioned are "tokens?" yes.

Phydeaux -> RE: GOP pushback against Tea Party (11/8/2013 9:02:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri Seriously? Are you saying the people I mentioned aren't conservatives? Are you saying the people I mentioned are "tokens?" yes. Spoken like a true racist. "Think as I think, or else be a toad."......

DesideriScuri -> RE: GOP pushback against Tea Party (11/8/2013 10:01:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phydeaux quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri So, their supporting black conservatives doesn't mean they aren't racist against blacks? If it's really about the color of their skin, then even black conservatives would be opposed, wouldn't they? I don't see any black conservatives getting elected by the tea party. 1 black conservative got elected in 2010 and he lost his seat as soon as he ran again. The only other black conservative anyone has ever heard of is Alan Keyes who is pretty much the definition of a self hating black man. You never heard of JC Watts? Janice Rogers Brown? Michael Steele? I didn't mention Steele because, well, I don't think he's a conservative. He's a Republican; what is called an establishment Republican. That does not mean he's conservative.

DesideriScuri -> RE: GOP pushback against Tea Party (11/8/2013 10:02:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri Seriously? Are you saying the people I mentioned aren't conservatives? Are you saying the people I mentioned are "tokens?" yes. I'm just going to go ahead and figure you can't see how racist that answer is.

farglebargle -> RE: GOP pushback against Tea Party (11/8/2013 11:42:37 PM)
Running Alan Keyes against Barack Obama is why Obama is in the White House, after Jeri Ryan outed her Ex as a piece of shit unworthy of even being peed on if he was on fire...

DomKen -> RE: GOP pushback against Tea Party (11/9/2013 3:17:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri Seriously? Are you saying the people I mentioned aren't conservatives? Are you saying the people I mentioned are "tokens?" yes. I'm just going to go ahead and figure you can't see how racist that answer is. Pointing out reality is not racist. It is just "I have a black friend" again.

DomKen -> RE: GOP pushback against Tea Party (11/9/2013 3:28:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle Running Alan Keyes against Barack Obama is why Obama is in the White House, after Jeri Ryan outed her Ex as a piece of shit unworthy of even being peed on if he was on fire... I've got a friend who worked at the local PBS station at the time. The station hosted a debate between the two and I was at a Halloween party with him and a bunch of his coworkers right after. Keyes was by all reports nasty and unpleasant to the station staff who were only trying to do their job. The video of the debate is on youtube and he is pretty unpleasant even in the stuff where he knew the cameras were on. BTW Jeri Ryan never brought up the sex club stuff. It was in their custody proceedings which some media outfit got unsealed. And I have to say I thought it fairly pathetic that the GOP dropped a guy for what he simply wanted to do with his wife, sex in public and at sex clubs, that he never actually did. But Jack Ryan was well behind Obama at the time, polls had it around a 10 point margin, and that was well before his keynote speech at the Democratic Party Convention after which I doubt Ryan or any of the Republican primary candidates could have beat him.

DesideriScuri -> RE: GOP pushback against Tea Party (11/9/2013 5:06:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri Seriously? Are you saying the people I mentioned aren't conservatives? Are you saying the people I mentioned are "tokens?" yes. I'm just going to go ahead and figure you can't see how racist that answer is. Pointing out reality is not racist. It is just "I have a black friend" again. You have proof for those claims, then? If not, it's not "pointing out reality," but...

DomKen -> RE: GOP pushback against Tea Party (11/9/2013 7:41:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri Seriously? Are you saying the people I mentioned aren't conservatives? Are you saying the people I mentioned are "tokens?" yes. I'm just going to go ahead and figure you can't see how racist that answer is. Pointing out reality is not racist. It is just "I have a black friend" again. You have proof for those claims, then? If not, it's not "pointing out reality," but... That's really easy, where are the black women on that list?

DesideriScuri -> RE: GOP pushback against Tea Party (11/9/2013 8:00:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri Seriously? Are you saying the people I mentioned aren't conservatives? Are you saying the people I mentioned are "tokens?" yes. I'm just going to go ahead and figure you can't see how racist that answer is. Pointing out reality is not racist. It is just "I have a black friend" again. You have proof for those claims, then? If not, it's not "pointing out reality," but... That's really easy, where are the black women on that list? So, no. Got it.

DomKen -> RE: GOP pushback against Tea Party (11/10/2013 1:57:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri Seriously? Are you saying the people I mentioned aren't conservatives? Are you saying the people I mentioned are "tokens?" yes. I'm just going to go ahead and figure you can't see how racist that answer is. Pointing out reality is not racist. It is just "I have a black friend" again. You have proof for those claims, then? If not, it's not "pointing out reality," but... That's really easy, where are the black women on that list? So, no. Got it. Actually yes. If you can't see the problem of having a very short list of men only who have decided to be the token blacks in the conservative movement, said movement having become strongly associated up with southern white racists, then it is not my fault.

Yachtie -> RE: GOP pushback against Tea Party (11/10/2013 5:08:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen Actually yes. If you can't see the problem of having a very short list of men only who have decided to be the token blacks in the conservative movement, said movement having become strongly associated up with southern white racists, then it is not my fault. Funny how a black man is not a principled black man, but a token black man, if he isn't a liberal (Democrat). Your strawman association to conservatism is both irrelevant and simple-minded. To label these men as tokens is an affront to them because they are black. Those are your words above, and they are racist.

DomKen -> RE: GOP pushback against Tea Party (11/10/2013 7:29:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Yachtie quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen Actually yes. If you can't see the problem of having a very short list of men only who have decided to be the token blacks in the conservative movement, said movement having become strongly associated up with southern white racists, then it is not my fault. Funny how a black man is not a principled black man, but a token black man, if he isn't a liberal (Democrat). Your strawman association to conservatism is both irrelevant and simple-minded. To label these men as tokens is an affront to them because they are black. Those are your words above, and they are racist. No. Look at the group he put up. To claim Clarence Thomas, for instance, is principled is laughable. The vast bulk of blacks left the Republican party, a party to which they had been loyal for a century, when the Republican Party took in the dixiecrat racists. The very few that have gone back are then held up by a party dominated by racists as mif it proves they're not racists which is the very definition of tokenism.

Owner59 -> RE: GOP pushback against Tea Party (11/10/2013 1:35:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr quote: ORIGINAL: Phydeaux quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri So, their supporting black conservatives doesn't mean they aren't racist against blacks? If it's really about the color of their skin, then even black conservatives would be opposed, wouldn't they? I don't see any black conservatives getting elected by the tea party. 1 black conservative got elected in 2010 and he lost his seat as soon as he ran again. The only other black conservative anyone has ever heard of is Alan Keyes who is pretty much the definition of a self hating black man. You never heard of JC Watts? Janice Rogers Brown? Michael Steele? I know Dr. Keyes. I worked on his 2000 campaign. He's an honorable man and there's nothing self-hating about him. He just doesn't subscribe to the racist mentality of "anyone with white skin is out to get me". Self-hating, my Irish ass. The man is a beacon. The over the top loonie act is his only distinction..... And appeal.... Probably one of the most arrogant,elitist debaters we`ve ever seen. The other big push-back on the lunatic tea-party was the defeat of another unintelligible, vile black conservative E.W. Jackson, who`s only shctick during the whole campaign was cry how Christians are under attack.......so make him the Virginia state lieutenant governor. Ever since the election of President Obama, black conservatives are in huge demand and are a growth sector, in the gop. If you`re willing to tow the con-alt-universe narrative, trash other blacks who`re progressive while claiming to be a victim of said black liberals and especially if one`s willing to ham it up with the flair and vibrato of WWW pre-wrestling smack-down trash-talk.....there`s a place for you in the gop with great growth potential. If you`re halfway normal,like Mike Steal,...you`ll get booted....as a rino. [:D] But unfortunately for conservatives....the only African Americans who`ll have the gop are the really repugnant bigots, like the Dr. Benjamin Carson. That guy Cain ,the groper....said some of the most racially degrading things I`ve ever heard about President Obama .....by anyone of any race. No doubt, a black man willing to humiliate another black man in public as "not a good black man", has a huge appeal to most of the gop.

Phydeaux -> RE: GOP pushback against Tea Party (11/11/2013 6:49:52 AM)
Funny. Dems started hating carson after he came out speaking what a disaster obama has been. By the way- not a politician but a black man that tells it like it is - bill cosby.

Phydeaux -> RE: GOP pushback against Tea Party (11/11/2013 7:00:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: Yachtie quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen Actually yes. If you can't see the problem of having a very short list of men only who have decided to be the token blacks in the conservative movement, said movement having become strongly associated up with southern white racists, then it is not my fault. Funny how a black man is not a principled black man, but a token black man, if he isn't a liberal (Democrat). Your strawman association to conservatism is both irrelevant and simple-minded. To label these men as tokens is an affront to them because they are black. Those are your words above, and they are racist. No. Look at the group he put up. To claim Clarence Thomas, for instance, is principled is laughable. The vast bulk of blacks left the Republican party, a party to which they had been loyal for a century, when the Republican Party took in the dixiecrat racists. The very few that have gone back are then held up by a party dominated by racists as mif it proves they're not racists which is the very definition of tokenism. Factually in error. It was under FDR with the expansion of the new deal that blacks started leaving the republicans. Essentially government jobs was the biggest avenue to the middle class for blacks in that era. The fact that you don't see Clarence Thomas as principled says more about you than anything else. The fact is that he was confirmed to the supreme court. By the GOP. And the GOP would have appointed the first hispanic - Estrada - but it was democrats that blocked him. Solely because they didn't want the republicans to be able to point to an hispanic appointee. You are willing to denigrate thomas's accomplishments solely because he is conservative. I don't know what the liberal equivalent of being a nazi is - but being willing to denigrate someone solely based on political values is pretty close.

mnottertail -> RE: GOP pushback against Tea Party (11/11/2013 7:08:10 AM)
quote: And the GOP would have appointed the first hispanic - Estrada - but it was democrats that blocked him. Solely because they didn't want the republicans to be able to point to an hispanic appointee. Factually in error, it was because he had no judge experience, and no track record that could be found, and the administration refused to provide basic facts about him to the senate.

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