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Lucylastic -> Dad Calls Cops on Son to Teach Him a Lesson, Cops Shoot Son Dead (11/8/2013 6:29:47 PM)
James Comstock refused to buy a pack of cigarettes for his 19-year-old son, Tyler, and now he’s planning his son’s funeral. “He took off with my truck. I call the police, and they kill him,” James Comstock told The Des Moines Register on Tuesday. “It was over a damn pack of cigarettes. I wouldn’t buy him none. “And I lose my son for that.” Comstock said he’s outraged police shot and killed his son Monday morning on Iowa State University’s campus. Latest updates: COMPLETE COVERAGE: Dash cam videos from the chase, photos and family reaction at DesMoinesRegister.com/ISUshooting Police began pursuing Tyler Comstock of Boone after his father reported the truck stolen. The truck belonged to a lawn care company. Ames Police Officer Adam McPherson pursued Comstock into the heart of ISU’s campus. During the chase, Comstock rammed McPherson’s car. The truck eventually stopped, but Comstock revved the engine and refused orders to turn it off. McPherson fired six shots into the truck. Comstock died from two gunshot wounds, according to the Iowa state medical examiner’s office. http://gawker.com/dad-calls-cops-on-son-to-teach-him-a-lesson-cops-shoot-1460159897 video and radio of the event available This is just PHUCKED up...like the kid in the streetcar in toronto, this is cops with itchy fingers, when they think someone might have a gun.. and a dumb kid, who died, because he wouldnt stop.. THe cops were told by dispatch twice to back off, that they knew the situation/suspect and father.

TheHeretic -> RE: Dad Calls Cops on Son to Teach Him a Lesson, Cops Shoot Son Dead (11/8/2013 6:49:19 PM)
Really fucking tragic, but a vehicle is very easily a deadly weapon, and according to the report you posted, Lucy, he tried to use it that way. I have plenty of issues with how law enforcement is carried out in my country, but cops will kill people for doing what this dumbass kid did, when his dumbass father set the law on family.

Lucylastic -> RE: Dad Calls Cops on Son to Teach Him a Lesson, Cops Shoot Son Dead (11/8/2013 6:53:40 PM)
Its in other reports too Rich I wonder how the mom is gonna take it over time

Kirata -> RE: Dad Calls Cops on Son to Teach Him a Lesson, Cops Shoot Son Dead (11/8/2013 7:09:00 PM)
Check out the video. The guy is a fuckhead, endangering innocent people. He backs up into a police car, blows through a stop sign, races up a one way street the wrong way.... http://www.desmoinesregister.com/section/news&keyword=isu_shooting&template=keywords I rate this one a Darwin Award. K.

TheHeretic -> RE: Dad Calls Cops on Son to Teach Him a Lesson, Cops Shoot Son Dead (11/8/2013 7:11:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata I rate this one a Darwin Award. K. I was just thinking of the speed-freak file. The whole scene just screams "trailer park."

tj444 -> RE: Dad Calls Cops on Son to Teach Him a Lesson, Cops Shoot Son Dead (11/8/2013 7:47:45 PM)
dumb kid, dumber dad.. 19 is a little late to be "teaching the kid a lesson" & for tough love, dad should have been doing that when he was a little kid.. and then to outsource teaching that "lesson" to armed cops.. cops are not family counselors.. what would the kid have done if dad hadn't called the cops and he had some time to cool off and come to his senses? he would have eventually come back (alive) on his own..

BamaD -> RE: Dad Calls Cops on Son to Teach Him a Lesson, Cops Shoot Son Dead (11/8/2013 8:49:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic Really fucking tragic, but a vehicle is very easily a deadly weapon, and according to the report you posted, Lucy, he tried to use it that way. I have plenty of issues with how law enforcement is carried out in my country, but cops will kill people for doing what this dumbass kid did, when his dumbass father set the law on family. Contrary to popular opinion a truck is a more deadly weapon than a gun.

DesideriScuri -> RE: Dad Calls Cops on Son to Teach Him a Lesson, Cops Shoot Son Dead (11/8/2013 9:56:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic James Comstock refused to buy a pack of cigarettes for his 19-year-old son, Tyler, and now he’s planning his son’s funeral. “He took off with my truck. I call the police, and they kill him,” James Comstock told The Des Moines Register on Tuesday. “It was over a damn pack of cigarettes. I wouldn’t buy him none. “And I lose my son for that.” Comstock said he’s outraged police shot and killed his son Monday morning on Iowa State University’s campus. Latest updates: COMPLETE COVERAGE: Dash cam videos from the chase, photos and family reaction at DesMoinesRegister.com/ISUshooting Police began pursuing Tyler Comstock of Boone after his father reported the truck stolen. The truck belonged to a lawn care company. Ames Police Officer Adam McPherson pursued Comstock into the heart of ISU’s campus. During the chase, Comstock rammed McPherson’s car. The truck eventually stopped, but Comstock revved the engine and refused orders to turn it off. McPherson fired six shots into the truck. Comstock died from two gunshot wounds, according to the Iowa state medical examiner’s office. http://gawker.com/dad-calls-cops-on-son-to-teach-him-a-lesson-cops-shoot-1460159897 video and radio of the event available This is just PHUCKED up...like the kid in the streetcar in toronto, this is cops with itchy fingers, when they think someone might have a gun.. and a dumb kid, who died, because he wouldnt stop.. THe cops were told by dispatch twice to back off, that they knew the situation/suspect and father. If the cops didn't follow direct orders (I don't know if dispatch was in position of authority or not), then there will be consequences for their actions. Why the fuck did the kid not obey the LEO's? Fucked up situation. Made worse by a headstrong teen and, imo, cops with twitchy fingers.

SeekingTrinity -> RE: Dad Calls Cops on Son to Teach Him a Lesson, Cops Shoot Son Dead (11/8/2013 10:30:08 PM)
~FRing it~ When I first read the story somewhere else, I was wondering what all the hell was going on. But after seeing the dash cam footage, though it is incredibly tragic...I just don't see what choice the officers had. A full sized truck like that could kill someone. He already rammed patrol cars, flung that trailer into traffic after it became detached from the truck, drove the wrong way on a one way street at high speed on a college campus, and then was crashing into things all over the school lawn. There was a tent on the grass, which could have been filled with students. The bumper cars thing over in the trees showed me he wasn't going to stop, throw his hand up, and call it good. If he had hit and killed someone on the campus or perhaps killed an officer or innocent motorist by driving though town like a Class A jackass, people would be screaming for cop blood wondering why they didn't do anything to stop that kid before he killed someone. It was a no win situation. If you call in your vehicle as stolen, you have to expect a hardcore response. If you ram a cop car and drive like a maniac endangering the lives of people, you can't expect the police to come at you bearing kittens and hugs.

EdBowie -> RE: Dad Calls Cops on Son to Teach Him a Lesson, Cops Shoot Son Dead (11/8/2013 10:34:19 PM)
There's a reason they are called 'dispatchers', not 'Off Scene Commanders'. What you are imagining is from the movies. quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic James Comstock refused to buy a pack of cigarettes for his 19-year-old son, Tyler, and now he’s planning his son’s funeral. “He took off with my truck. I call the police, and they kill him,” James Comstock told The Des Moines Register on Tuesday. “It was over a damn pack of cigarettes. I wouldn’t buy him none. “And I lose my son for that.” Comstock said he’s outraged police shot and killed his son Monday morning on Iowa State University’s campus. Latest updates: COMPLETE COVERAGE: Dash cam videos from the chase, photos and family reaction at DesMoinesRegister.com/ISUshooting Police began pursuing Tyler Comstock of Boone after his father reported the truck stolen. The truck belonged to a lawn care company. Ames Police Officer Adam McPherson pursued Comstock into the heart of ISU’s campus. During the chase, Comstock rammed McPherson’s car. The truck eventually stopped, but Comstock revved the engine and refused orders to turn it off. McPherson fired six shots into the truck. Comstock died from two gunshot wounds, according to the Iowa state medical examiner’s office. http://gawker.com/dad-calls-cops-on-son-to-teach-him-a-lesson-cops-shoot-1460159897 video and radio of the event available This is just PHUCKED up...like the kid in the streetcar in toronto, this is cops with itchy fingers, when they think someone might have a gun.. and a dumb kid, who died, because he wouldnt stop.. THe cops were told by dispatch twice to back off, that they knew the situation/suspect and father. If the cops didn't follow direct orders (I don't know if dispatch was in position of authority or not), then there will be consequences for their actions. Why the fuck did the kid not obey the LEO's? Fucked up situation. Made worse by a headstrong teen and, imo, cops with twitchy fingers.

BamaD -> RE: Dad Calls Cops on Son to Teach Him a Lesson, Cops Shoot Son Dead (11/8/2013 11:25:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: EdBowie There's a reason they are called 'dispatchers', not 'Off Scene Commanders'. What you are imagining is from the movies. . THe cops were told by dispatch twice to back off, that they knew the situation/suspect and father. If the cops didn't follow direct orders (I don't know if dispatch was in position of authority or not), then there will be consequences for their actions. Why the fuck did the kid not obey the LEO's? Fucked up situation. Made worse by a headstrong teen and, imo, cops with twitchy fingers. Yep it's easy to say stand down when it isn't you the truck is aimed at.

EdBowie -> RE: Dad Calls Cops on Son to Teach Him a Lesson, Cops Shoot Son Dead (11/9/2013 8:04:22 AM)
The dispatchers dispatch. They have no authority to control situations that they know nothing about. All they can do is give information, reiterate policies, and relay orders from someone who is in the chain of command. They cannot order an officer to walk away from a felony in progress, with the public in potential danger, because they 'know' the subject or his relatives. Again, that's the movies. quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: EdBowie There's a reason they are called 'dispatchers', not 'Off Scene Commanders'. What you are imagining is from the movies. . THe cops were told by dispatch twice to back off, that they knew the situation/suspect and father. If the cops didn't follow direct orders (I don't know if dispatch was in position of authority or not), then there will be consequences for their actions. Why the fuck did the kid not obey the LEO's? Fucked up situation. Made worse by a headstrong teen and, imo, cops with twitchy fingers. Yep it's easy to say stand down when it isn't you the truck is aimed at.

ChatteParfaitt -> RE: Dad Calls Cops on Son to Teach Him a Lesson, Cops Shoot Son Dead (11/9/2013 8:48:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SeekingTrinity ~FRing it~ When I first read the story somewhere else, I was wondering what all the hell was going on. But after seeing the dash cam footage, though it is incredibly tragic...I just don't see what choice the officers had. A full sized truck like that could kill someone. He already rammed patrol cars, flung that trailer into traffic after it became detached from the truck, drove the wrong way on a one way street at high speed on a college campus, and then was crashing into things all over the school lawn. There was a tent on the grass, which could have been filled with students. The bumper cars thing over in the trees showed me he wasn't going to stop, throw his hand up, and call it good. If he had hit and killed someone on the campus or perhaps killed an officer or innocent motorist by driving though town like a Class A jackass, people would be screaming for cop blood wondering why they didn't do anything to stop that kid before he killed someone. It was a no win situation. If you call in your vehicle as stolen, you have to expect a hardcore response. If you ram a cop car and drive like a maniac endangering the lives of people, you can't expect the police to come at you bearing kittens and hugs. Thanks for saving my typing fingers, Trinity. If you have to lay blame on this tragic result, I blame the father first, the kid second, the cops last.

Anuser -> RE: Dad Calls Cops on Son to Teach Him a Lesson, Cops Shoot Son Dead (11/9/2013 9:16:36 AM)
You don't think the cop could have handled the situation differently, like say shooting out the tires on the car instead of shooting the 19 year old? The kid acted stupidly, for sure, but I'm not convinced it was an offense punishable by death.

tj444 -> RE: Dad Calls Cops on Son to Teach Him a Lesson, Cops Shoot Son Dead (11/9/2013 9:38:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt If you have to lay blame on this tragic result, I blame the father first, the kid second, the cops last. me too.. because of the escalation, I am of the opinion that both father and son are hot heads, letting their temper over-ride common sense.. kids tend to learn behaviors from their parents.. this is (imo) what dad taught him.. father refuses to buy cigs.. so kid "steals" truck (escalation).. so dad calls cops (escalation).. kid is pissed the cops chase him so he reverses & rams the cop on the street (escalation).. the vids show me that the kid was out of control and dangerous, he rammed the cops twice and was in the process of doing it a third time when the cops were out of their vehicles.. near the end the truck was rammed by 2 cop cars so if ramming the truck didn't stop him, shooting out the tires would not have stopped him either.. I don't think the cops had a choice, and once the kid attacked the cops, well.. you know its not gonna end well..

DesideriScuri -> RE: Dad Calls Cops on Son to Teach Him a Lesson, Cops Shoot Son Dead (11/9/2013 9:40:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt quote: ORIGINAL: SeekingTrinity ~FRing it~ When I first read the story somewhere else, I was wondering what all the hell was going on. But after seeing the dash cam footage, though it is incredibly tragic...I just don't see what choice the officers had. A full sized truck like that could kill someone. He already rammed patrol cars, flung that trailer into traffic after it became detached from the truck, drove the wrong way on a one way street at high speed on a college campus, and then was crashing into things all over the school lawn. There was a tent on the grass, which could have been filled with students. The bumper cars thing over in the trees showed me he wasn't going to stop, throw his hand up, and call it good. If he had hit and killed someone on the campus or perhaps killed an officer or innocent motorist by driving though town like a Class A jackass, people would be screaming for cop blood wondering why they didn't do anything to stop that kid before he killed someone. It was a no win situation. If you call in your vehicle as stolen, you have to expect a hardcore response. If you ram a cop car and drive like a maniac endangering the lives of people, you can't expect the police to come at you bearing kittens and hugs. Thanks for saving my typing fingers, Trinity. If you have to lay blame on this tragic result, I blame the father first, the kid second, the cops last. Why is the father to blame? He called the cops because his son stole his truck. What wasn't correct in that action? Plus, we don't really know what the relationship between the father and son was. quote: ORIGINAL: Anuser You don't think the cop could have handled the situation differently, like say shooting out the tires on the car instead of shooting the 19 year old? The kid acted stupidly, for sure, but I'm not convinced it was an offense punishable by death. Unless we were there, we don't necessarily know all the details. Why did the officer unload 6 rounds into the truck? If the kid is going to ram a police car and further threaten to use the truck as a weapon, what makes you think shooting out the tires would stop him? I'm not saying the kid deserved to die. I'm not saying he didn't, either. There are facts that we may not know that would be beneficial in figuring this out, though.

ChatteParfaitt -> RE: Dad Calls Cops on Son to Teach Him a Lesson, Cops Shoot Son Dead (11/9/2013 9:44:58 AM)
It was absolutely NOT an offense punishable by death. It was a tragedy, not justice. BUT, and this is a great big but, the kid was out of control, perhaps on drugs (did you watch the squad car cam?) and putting not just the cops in danger. He literally ran over the tent set up at the campus, in the video you see someone scrambling away from the truck. He was putting bystanders in jeopardy. If it was YOUR child on that campus having to run from the truck, what would you have had them do? Shoot the tires out sounds wonderful in hindsight. Not call the cops in the first place probably sounds damn good in hindsight. The cops acted in the heat of the moment. It's what cops do, and why you teach your children to respect them, even if the cops are in the wrong.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Dad Calls Cops on Son to Teach Him a Lesson, Cops Shoot Son Dead (11/9/2013 9:47:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Anuser , like say shooting out the tires on the car instead of shooting the 19 year old? The kid acted stupidly, for sure, but I'm not convinced it was an offense punishable by death. 1. Even if you're a really good shot (Most cops aren't) shooting the tires of a moving vehicle with a handgun is REALLY difficult. 2. Why does his age matter? He was an adult with all the rights and responsibilities of same. 3. When people do stupid things, bad stuff happens up to and including death. It's called Darwinian evolution.

ChatteParfaitt -> RE: Dad Calls Cops on Son to Teach Him a Lesson, Cops Shoot Son Dead (11/9/2013 9:49:18 AM)
I never said the father was solely to blame, there is plenty to go around in this case. Tj said this, and I agree: quote: I am of the opinion that both father and son are hot heads, letting their temper over-ride common sense.. kids tend to learn behaviors from their parents.. this is (imo) what dad taught him.. The father brought the people with guns into the situation. He could have said 'what the hell' and let the kid buy his smokes. He also could have done a little thinking and realized his son was far too much of a hothead to send the cops after him. You are right, we don't know the whole situation, but given what I do know at this point in time, I stand by what I said. Hilly said this: quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam 1. Even if you're a really good shot (Most cops aren't) shooting the tires of a moving vehicle with a handgun is REALLY difficult. 2. Why does his age matter? He was an adult with all the rights and responsibilities of same. 3. When people do stupid things, bad stuff happens up to and including death. It's called Darwinian evolution. I don't know much about hand guns, but a good gf of mine is an expert target shooter, and she says he's right. Per Himself who has cop friends, cops are trained not to shoot the tires b/c it doesn't work unless you are packing a large caliber long gun and shooting from a stationary position.

EdBowie -> RE: Dad Calls Cops on Son to Teach Him a Lesson, Cops Shoot Son Dead (11/9/2013 9:57:45 AM)
You are joking right? What kind of truck stops just because the tires are flat? quote: ORIGINAL: Anuser You don't think the cop could have handled the situation differently, like say shooting out the tires on the car instead of shooting the 19 year old? The kid acted stupidly, for sure, but I'm not convinced it was an offense punishable by death.

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