HoneyBears
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Joined: 11/5/2013 From: Pennsylvania Status: offline
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ORIGINAL: HoneyBears The easiest and fastest way to show you are clean is to donate blood. Both you and your prospective partner should have or get a recent blood donation card, preferably within the time frame of your courtship, although that is not a failsafe method. Maybe I should respect thread drift and let this die, but as long as someone is asserting this as advice for newbies in the scene, I might as well point out that it is medically discouraged. Mainstream medical advice is: don't use blood donation as a testing source. Any false negative will give you a false sense of security, and contaminate the blood supply. Please, first, ensure you are healthy, and only afterward donate blood. They neglected to mention that timing of testing is also important to look at while handing out all this newbie saving advice. Id like to point out that it is recommended that a person wait 12 weeks from potential exposure to a blood borne pathogen until testing to ensure that seroconversion has taken place and antibody level in the blood is high enough to be picked up by conventional testing. By two months post-exposure, most people will have produced enough antibodies to be detected by standard tests. By three months out, 97% of people will have enough antibodies to test positive. My source: San Francisco AIDS Foundation. For the record, I am a state trained in HIV/Hep C testing and it's something I do on a routine basis. So going out and being exposed to blood borne pathogens like HIV yesterday and then going out and donating blood next week will give that false sense of security in being negative you spoke of. I too thought this was bad advice, both for the reason you mentioned and what I brought up too. You are both right to point this out in greater detail than our quickie better-than-nothing version. We have always been regular blood donors and are not advocating running down at the last minute to your nearest blood drive. (Although donating blood is always a good thing to do, if you qualify, as well noted by MasterRazz.) So thanks for expanding upon this with your input, SeekingTrinity and RedMagic1. Condoms have limited effectiveness; then there are always men who are unwilling to wear them and will say anything to weasel out of it. As for the sentiment expressed about saving subs from themselves, we have read many forum discussions which provide helpful advice to everyone of every persuasion. Should the majority of posters here be frowned upon as a result? Most of you seem to have good intentions. We have seen too many new lifestylers or experimentalists get badly hurt (both figuratively and literally), not only due to their own false expectations, but largely due to more experienced (than they are) BDSMers who deliberately misrepresent themselves. Of course, this happens in everyday vanilla dating. Nothing personal. Besides, who could possibly keep up with such a daunting task!
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