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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
of course Ron, its expected
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Who is spinning? LMAO

• A Conservative interpretation of the US Constitution
  
• Personal Responsibility
  
• Help for the truly needy
  
• Limited Government
  
• Consumption Tax (non-profit charities and food exempt)
  

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
useful propaganda to slop the feebleminded with.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
Bullshit. The plans that could not be grandfathered were junk plans that offered almost no coverage.

Proof?

Read the story I linked above it demonstrates the reality for one of the right's stories about someone losing their coverage. You could also go looking for the percentage of plans that did not qualify to be grandfathered before any price hikes. Those plans were all junk plans.

So, I have to go prove your allegations?

One "story" about someone losing coverage doesn't mean all those plans were junk plans.

Why would anyone buy a "junk plan" to begin with? Methinks you're passing judgement about a plan that someone else very well could have happily chosen. Now? No choice for you!

I already proved junk plans existed. I already demonstrated that one of the right wing's stories was actually about someone with one of those junk plans.

People bought junk plans because they wanted some insurance coverage and either had no choice in what they could get, a lot of the junk plans were employer provided, or was all they could afford or they didn't understand what the policy they were buying covered, see the woman in the article I previously linked to.

The reason to get rid of those plans is two fold. First the plans only gave the illusion of coverage. If someone did get ill enough to be hospitalized or needed virtually any diagnostic testing they would find themselves paying out of pocket despite having paid who knows how much in premiums. It is simple consumer protection. Second people with these policies will not seek medical care when appropriate, once they find out how little coverage is provided, It is well known that early treatment and/or preventative care offer much better outcomes over waiting till a person is so sick they have no choice but to seek care.