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Kirata -> RE: -=No tip for waitress, cause she's gay=- (12/3/2013 8:53:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: njlauren

The reason that good people of faith are being called names is...

People who behave badly always have a "reason". It's as if they thought there could be one.

K.









Zonie63 -> RE: -=No tip for waitress, cause she's gay=- (12/4/2013 4:45:31 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata
An anonymous Good Samaritan has been traveling around the US since at least September leaving thousands of dollars worth of tips wherever they go. Calling themselves "TipsForJesus," the mysterious stranger or strangers have so far kept their true identity from being leaked as they drop tips ranging from $500 to $10,000 at seemingly random establishments. ~Gawker



Something about this seems a bit off. Why would they leave such big tips? I can understand being generous, but $10,000 is ridiculous. Is this "TipsForJesus" part of some missionary organization or church? Whoever it is, that's quite a bar tab they ran up. They must have been feeling no pain at that point.




ResidentSadist -> RE: -=No tip for waitress, cause she's gay=- (12/4/2013 5:21:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: njlauren

The reason that good people of faith are being called names is...

People who behave badly always have a "reason". It's as if they thought there could be one.

K.


Behavior is considered a choice in my house. No illness, no hormone swings (male or female), nothing is an excuse for bad behavior. We are accountable for our choices.

It seems so many people are given a pass because their dog died, they are on the rag, they have a cold, it's bad hair day etc. Who gives a fuck . . . some shit that happened to you is no excuse to treat me badly. In Detroit, when you fuck up and treat a gang-banger with disrespect on the street, he doesn't ask if you are having a bad day before he shoots you. I am pretty sure that if that tipping bullshit happened in Detroit and the waitress saw it before the assholes got out the door, it would be an entirely different story indeed.




thishereboi -> RE: -=No tip for waitress, cause she's gay=- (12/4/2013 5:40:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

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In a rather ironic juxtaposition, I notice none of the "they-stiffed-a-gay-They-must-be-Christians" crowd bothered to give credit where credit is due.


One Christian doing good deeds does not in any way offset all the times I got stiffed of a tip by all those cheap, smarmy, smiling, arrogant, obnoxious, right wing Christian assholes with their stupid little Chick tracts.

Okay, so people were wrong about their presumptions in the case of this particular waitress. There is a reason people have those presumptions and that reason is because your average hate filled, gay bashing, woman oppressing, science hating, racist dickhead is an right wing Christian.


And your little rant does not offset all the times I was stiffed delivering pizza's to the cheap ass democrats who could afford the pizza but always had an excuse on why they didn't have any left for a tip. My favorite was the idiot who tried to pay me with food stamps.

And yes they were wrong with their presumptions, just like you are wrong with the presumption that there aren't any left wing christians who are against gays. Talk about hate filled, have you looked in the mirror lately. You are dripping with it.




Marc2b -> RE: -=No tip for waitress, cause she's gay=- (12/4/2013 6:34:57 AM)

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How strange that they didn't like you. One of the world's unsolved mysteries, that one.



Are you accusing me of being less than professional in my dealing with my customers? What evidence do you have to back up that accusation? What I think about certain people is not the same as how I dealt with them and you have no basis to presume otherwise.

Your repetition about the super tipper who calls him/her self a Christian in no way contradicts my assertion that people suspect hate filled bigots of being right wing Christians.




Marc2b -> RE: -=No tip for waitress, cause she's gay=- (12/4/2013 6:57:57 AM)

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And your little rant does not offset all the times I was stiffed delivering pizza's to the cheap ass democrats who could afford the pizza but always had an excuse on why they didn't have any left for a tip. My favorite was the idiot who tried to pay me with food stamps.


Talk to Kirata. He'll be happy to explain to you how it is your fault if you got a lousy tip.


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And yes they were wrong with their presumptions, just like you are wrong with the presumption that there aren't any left wing christians who are against gays.


I have made no such presumption. It is you who have presumed that my use of the term "right wing Christian" automatically excludes left wing Christians. It does not. An honest perusal of my posting history will reveal that I in no way excuse the left wing of American politics (religious or otherwise) from their prejudices and bigotries. However, I use the term "right wing" in this context because the vast majority of ignorance and hate in this nation come from the right wing. . . particularly hatred against homosexuals.

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Talk about hate filled, have you looked in the mirror lately. You are dripping with it.


No I am not. You do not know me well enough to make such a judgement. Hate is a draining, debilitating emotion and I don't have the emotional stamina or wherewithal to keep it up. There are plenty of people in the world that I don't like (for example, right wing Christians) but that is not the same as hating them. There are, in fact, very few people that I hate (bullies top the list). You are mistaking anger for hate. I am justified in my anger at right wing Christians (as well as all other fascist, hate filled dicks) and I will not back down from it nor will I apologize for it.




Kirata -> RE: -=No tip for waitress, cause she's gay=- (12/4/2013 12:06:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

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How strange that they didn't like you. One of the world's unsolved mysteries, that one.

Are you accusing me of being less than professional in my dealing with my customers? What evidence do you have to back up that accusation? What I think about certain people is not the same as how I dealt with them and you have no basis to presume otherwise.

I'm saying that you're not fooling anybody, and certainly not everybody, with your so-called professionalism in dealing with them. Your attitude toward them, the low regard in which you hold them, will seep through and communicate itself in subtle ways, your conceit to the contrary notwithstanding.

K.





Marc2b -> RE: -=No tip for waitress, cause she's gay=- (12/4/2013 1:20:23 PM)

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I'm saying that you're not fooling anybody, and certainly not everybody, with your so-called professionalism in dealing with them. Your attitude toward them, the low regard in which you hold them, will seep through and communicate itself in subtle ways, your conceit to the contrary notwithstanding.


Restating an accusation does not prove the accusation. Do you have a video of me acting unprofessionally? Do you have a signed affidavit by a witness. Of course you don't because it never happened. Unless you can prove otherwise you have no reason to insult my character. You are filling in your lack of knowledge with your own bias and your lack of knowledge is this:

During my cab driving days (in my early twenties more than twenty-five years ago) I was actually quite conservative. When I bothered to think about political and social issues at all I would have been against gay marriage (marriage is for normal people, not freaks), against welfare of any kind (the lazy bums can get a job like I did), etc. Driving cab is one of the reasons I started moving left politically. When you interact with just about every kind of person you can imagine it is hard not to broaden your perspectives, it is hard not to realize that some of the opinions you held are unjustified. In short I became more open and accepting of difference.

There were exceptions, of course. Like the right wing Christians (who hate difference) who didn't tip you but gave you one of those stupid Chick tracts instead. Still, I treated everyone with professional courtesy (discourteous cab drivers tended not to keep their jobs very long) and you cannot prove otherwise. If you persist in this unfounded assault upon my character then I must judge you to have no honor or integrity.




Kirata -> RE: -=No tip for waitress, cause she's gay=- (12/4/2013 1:56:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

If you persist in this unfounded assault upon my character then I must judge you to have no honor or integrity.

Well if it makes you feel any better, I was only talking about here on Earth. Not your world.

K.





VideoAdminRho -> RE: -=No tip for waitress, cause she's gay=- (12/4/2013 2:05:18 PM)

Let's please get back to the OP.




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