RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (Full Version)

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What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex?


Once tied up, we almost always have sex
  43% (43)
Once tied up, we sometimes have sex
  26% (26)
Once tied up, we rarely have sex
  11% (11)
Bondage is foreplay - we have sex after
  11% (11)
Bondage destroys the mood
  3% (3)
Sex is never involved with bondage
  4% (4)


Total Votes : 98
(last vote on : 1/11/2014 8:34:57 AM)
(Poll will run till: -- )


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SylvereApLeanan -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/20/2013 2:27:49 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: meomymaid

not sure why people are on a BDSM site, if they think this is about sex in the first place.
Guess the subject is being high jacked by swingers and sex addicts that shouldn't be here in the first place.


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meomymaid -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/20/2013 2:29:40 PM)

as I said - high jacked




LadyPact -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/20/2013 2:31:42 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: meomymaid
not sure why people are on a BDSM site, if they think this is about sex in the first place.
Guess the subject is being high jacked by swingers and sex addicts that shouldn't be here in the first place.

I would think not.......

I happen to be one of the folks who doesn't necessarily equate BDSM with sex. On the other hand, I understand completely that, for some folks, BDSM is an intricate part of sex and I try not to and/or don't attempt the MKIBTYK thing when I realize it is that for them. (I do fail at this, at times.)

Considering the original is based on the question of the frequency of how often sex is included with bondage, I don't see how that is a hijack via the forum rules.





VideoAdminChi -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/20/2013 2:39:41 PM)

My ruling is that there is no hijacking on this thread, just unusually interesting thread drift.




angelikaJ -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/20/2013 2:45:01 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: pompeii


Note: The term "sex" here, is defined as penetration, at least for male/female or male/male interaction (I'm not sure what the definition should be for female/female relationships).

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This is the issue I have with your post: your definition of sex is so limited.
The brain/mind is the biggest sexual organ and that has nothing to do with any penetrative actions you can conceive of.




thishereboi -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/20/2013 2:54:23 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: meomymaid

as I said - high jacked


The op is about sex and bondage. Highjacking a thread means talking about something other than the OP. Therefore discussing sex in this thread is not a highjack no matter how many time you say it is. Now you could start a thread about how you feel sex has no business in BDSM but if I were you I would take out the bit about orgasm control in your profile before you do.




UllrsIshtar -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/20/2013 2:55:38 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: meomymaid

Bondage, discipline, Sado, Maso misses a letter to come to sex "X"



Yeah, except that 3 out of those 4 explicitly refer to a sexual practice...

quote:

bond·age
ˈbändij/Submit
noun
1.
the state of being a slave.
"the deliverance of the Israelites from Egypt's bondage"
synonyms: slavery, enslavement, servitude, subjugation, subjection, oppression, domination, exploitation, persecution; More
antonyms: liberty
2.
sexual practice that involves the tying up or restraining of one partner.


quote:

sa·dism
ˈsāˌdizəm/Submit
noun
noun: sadism
1.
the tendency to derive pleasure, esp. sexual gratification, from inflicting pain, suffering, or humiliation on others.


quote:

mas·och·ism
ˈmasəˌkizəm,ˈmaz-/Submit
noun
1.
the tendency to derive pleasure, esp. sexual gratification, from one's own pain or humiliation.




petitespot -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/20/2013 2:57:47 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: meomymaid

not sure why people are on a BDSM site, if they think this is about sex in the first place.
Guess the subject is being high jacked by swingers and sex addicts that shouldn't be here in the first place.


And all I can think of is "poor you....missing out on all kinds of fun, wild sex"
And also...what a judgmental mind you have.

BDSM is purely sexual for me. I used to get wet doing ordinary vanilla tasks for him. It was all foreplay in my mind. I still drool at just the thought of a list from him.




MAINEiacMISTRESS -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/20/2013 3:03:55 PM)

I couldn't vote on the poll because there wasn't an option for "never involve sex".

Some people are in this for the endorphins, rush from humiliation, or to challenge their hard limits, etc. It's not always sexy. Sometimes it's just damn gross or embarassing (but fun).

I would have voted, "Sex would destroy the mood"





Lynnxz -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/20/2013 3:12:46 PM)

We are both proud owners of a 'healthy' libido, so bondage is usually foreplay for us, unless we are playing in a public facility. While we're both attention whores, having someone stare down our buttholes is a bit of an awkward thought.

When first starting out, some of the basic ties that were first learned were limiting, and not really a good option for sexytime. However, I found This book, by Chanta Rose. I like it, because the ties demonstrated are not only shown step by step, all of the ties are chosen because they are all make the bottom "available" in one way or the other.




VideoAdminChi -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/20/2013 3:19:22 PM)

quote:

I couldn't vote on the poll because there wasn't an option for "never involve sex".


Added!




sunshinemiss -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/20/2013 3:39:58 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan


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Alan Rickman. *sigh*

Maybe it's time to do another "Insert Alan Rickman into Every Thread" Day




SylvereApLeanan -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/20/2013 3:51:05 PM)

quote:

Maybe it's time to do another "Insert Alan Rickman into Every Thread" Day



That gets my vote!




LaTigresse -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/20/2013 7:51:17 PM)

I cannot vote in the poll because there is no option that fits me.

Sometimes it's sexual and sometimes when it's sexual it involves sex. Sometimes it is not sexual and therefore does not involve sex.




UllrsIshtar -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/20/2013 7:54:36 PM)

I think we've reached one consensus on this thread: it takes a lot of options to cover all the CC members on a poll...




experiment2 -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/21/2013 9:03:19 AM)

it seems to me that for many the lure of bondage is the anticipation of what may occur. it might involve some pain, some pleasure, teasing, or just the feeling of helplessness one has in bondage. to be totally under someone else control ofr just restrained from doing what you wish can be very arousing or at least exciting. it may even be accomplished with self bondage. not being able to touch onesself or being deprives of your senses through masks, hoods or blindfolds is stimulating for some. being wrapped with possibly only genitals exposed is frightening and fascinating to some.




skareamoose -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (11/21/2013 12:10:57 PM)

As a male, totally hetero, and and somewhat switchy ...

If I tie you we will already have agreed that you will probably have to pleasure me with your mouth and tongue before being released.

If you tie me, I hope (although I will resist) that you will demand and enforce my use of my tongue for your pleasure.





Pyramus -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (12/2/2013 1:00:35 PM)

MKIBTYK ???

Googling for a minute, I found out what it means ...

(My Kink Is Better Than Your Kink)




vanillakinkedup -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (12/2/2013 1:57:48 PM)

ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan

Wait...I thought the point of bondage was so the sub can't get away while I do painful things to them. What does sex have to do with that?



Agreed. But I gotta throw in the 'so the sub can't do anything while I tease the crap out of them' side of it. So I guess I would vote for sometimes.

And thanks Pyramus cause I was just about to look that up.




Arturas -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (12/2/2013 2:16:15 PM)

FR

When a Dom or top has bound a submissive in public play then sex is an unlikely happenstance. This is because the Dom is preforming an art or even a service for the submissive in order to show off his technique and derive pleasure just from a non-sexual act, like the skilled use of some instruments of torture. Most of the time sex is not overtly performed in club scenes.

This excludes Friday nights where couples tend to inhabit the sparsely populated open dungeon usually using different corners of the room for semi-private and close and personal activities. During such nights in a semi-private caged scene, the helpless young women in skirt and high heels is totally at the pleasure of the evil perverted jailer, but these are only on those special private nights in the dark and brooding dungeon where the only sounds are those of hapless women who happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, much to their delight.

Arturas and star




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