RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex?

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What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex?

Once tied up, we almost always have sex

43% (43)

Once tied up, we sometimes have sex

26% (26)

Once tied up, we rarely have sex

11% (11)

Bondage is foreplay - we have sex after

11% (11)

Bondage destroys the mood

3% (3)

Sex is never involved with bondage

4% (4)

Total Votes : 98

(last vote on : 1/11/2014 8:34:57 AM)
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Arturas -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (12/2/2013 2:21:30 PM)
So, we need an: Only on Friday nights in dark and foreboding cage scenes. Even one vote is hot.

LookieNoNookie -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (12/2/2013 5:36:46 PM)
No sex? I'm sorry....what are we talking about again?

DesFIP -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (12/2/2013 6:50:51 PM)
If there's no sex involved, then it isn't worth talking about.

LookieNoNookie -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (12/2/2013 7:43:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP If there's no sex involved, then it isn't worth talking about. My apologies....you are CORRECT!!!!

Blonderfluff -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (12/2/2013 8:28:09 PM)
I popped in because I saw "helpless bondage". When I read it all the way, I made a face. No sex? Waste of good rope and an hour of time that could have been spent having ......sex!! I know there are many that love the helpless , safe feeling that bondage can bring. But me??? Yeah. Sex.

Spiritedsub2 -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (12/2/2013 10:01:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP If there's no sex involved, then it isn't worth talking about. My apologies....you are CORRECT!!!! Did you miss this guy's recent lecture to us all, that BDSM is not sex? Here ya go: http://www.collarchat.com/m_4594174/tm.htm It's a great tonic against insomnia.

LookieNoNookie -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (12/3/2013 3:08:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2 quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP If there's no sex involved, then it isn't worth talking about. My apologies....you are CORRECT!!!! Did you miss this guy's recent lecture to us all, that BDSM is not sex? Here ya go: http://www.collarchat.com/m_4594174/tm.htm It's a great tonic against insomnia. (Well, if it isn't, it damn well should be!)

chatnoire -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (12/3/2013 10:18:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pompeii What good is helpless bondage if the Top doesn't have sexual intercourse (in some fashion) with the sub? Q: Once the submissive is helplessly bound, what do you prefer next? For some people, the bondage is the end game. While I generally like my kink liberally sprinkled with sex, bondage is different for me. The last mummification scene I did, I was floating away in sub space even before he had finished taping my fingers. His enjoyment came from being able to take me there. Sex would have most definitely spoiled the mood.

Arturas -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (12/3/2013 11:25:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: chatnoire quote: ORIGINAL: pompeii What good is helpless bondage if the Top doesn't have sexual intercourse (in some fashion) with the sub? Q: Once the submissive is helplessly bound, what do you prefer next? For some people, the bondage is the end game. While I generally like my kink liberally sprinkled with sex, bondage is different for me. The last mummification scene I did, I was floating away in sub space even before he had finished taping my fingers. His enjoyment came from being able to take me there. Sex would have most definitely spoiled the mood. Yes. After launching a woman into sub space in a sex free session, it is not unllkely that after the session and after releasing her she chooses to remain on the whipping horse and slides a shapely high heeled leg between his legs and gently but firmly draws him to her or even on the drive home a Dom finds his submissive suddenly licking his fingers as a prelude to a very difficult drive starting in the next few seconds. Arturas and star

Ilyrium -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (12/4/2013 10:42:47 AM)
The definition of sex eludes me. Does it include orgasm? Is it orgasm?

Arturas -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (12/4/2013 1:06:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ilyrium The definition of sex eludes me. Does it include orgasm? Is it orgasm? SEX: sexually motivated phenomena or behavior that leads to or can lead to intercourse. Thus, BDSM activities like hot waxing, needleplay or even whipping a bound woman are not sex. I assume intercourse leads to orgasm in your life. It does in mine. So even if the submissive unexpectedly begins licking her Dom's fingers while he is driving with one hand on the wheel and the other in her hands, one cannot say he launching her into sub space two hours earlier was "sex". Women are not that predictable, in my humble opinion. Although I have seen that pattern, where the woman later after a session or even after a great night out on a vanilla date, falls into "sex space" and starts moving in a slow and very fluid manner in the most unlikely locals and at the most unexpected time to begin the most amazing and irresistable kink sex a Dom could ever hope for. Arturas

Arturas -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (12/4/2013 1:24:52 PM)
I do note that women in sub space also move fluidly in their bindings (see my last) so perhaps sub space does lead to sex space (my term, I think) perhaps because both states are triggered by physical and emotional and mental stimulations based on pain and pleasure, both closely related with pain being pleasure and vice versa in many, some, maybe really all women if the right buttons are pushed by the right man (or woman). Arturas

NeshiiKitti -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (12/17/2013 6:40:17 PM)
It's never alright to assume that sexual intercourse is alright during a fetish scene, such as a bondage scene. You need to negotiate these things before anything, regardless of whether it's your sub or just a play partner. Some people don't associate sex with their kinks and you need to respect that. Non consensual sex is consider rape and that can get into serious trouble. All of this should be a no brainer.

FrostedFlake -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (12/17/2013 7:44:36 PM)
If the poll numbers are typical, big if, sure, it would seem that those who DO NOT equate kink and sex are both in the extreme minority and extremely loud about it. Some of us prefer if we age going to get that excited and loud, to just go ahead and fuck.

Dreamless -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (12/18/2013 3:02:51 AM)
I'm just gonna hang out with the 'I tie guys up so they can't get away from me doing mean things to them' club. I mean, that might include sex. Or sex things. Or just mindfuckery. Or just pain. Why would I want to ruin perfectly good endorphins with an orgasm?

Kana -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (12/18/2013 3:04:32 PM)
quote: Why would I want to ruin perfectly good endorphins with an orgasm? Because what's a symphony without a crescendo?

MalcolmNathaniel -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (12/18/2013 5:42:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ilyrium The definition of sex eludes me. Who are you? Bill Clinton?

cloudboy -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (12/18/2013 9:52:04 PM)
Bad bondage usually leads to the awkward moment of telling the Dom -- this isn't quite right because I can't feel my limb anymore.... My pet peeve is porno bondage of women tied up in some way-uncomfortable position with a vibrator attached to some long stick stuck between their legs. If some maledom tried that --- the woman upon release would slap him and call him a moron. Caveat: Bondage inhibits movement -- which may inhibit the movement necessary for intimacy; ergo bondage might prevent good sex. Don't forget: Bondage spring loads a sub for release.

Greta75 -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (12/19/2013 3:47:06 AM)
The purpose of bondage is to restrict movements to intensify sensations of whippings or forced orgasms. Not necessarily penetrative sex has to happen, but I don't do bdsm without sex, but it may not happen while being in bondage. Like for example, my master could have already cum a load inside me, and then tie me up after to mess around with me with a vibrator or something. For some, it may be just for photography, just for art.

Greta75 -> RE: What good is helpless bondage if there is no sex? (12/19/2013 3:48:40 AM)
quote: My pet peeve is porno bondage of women tied up in some way-uncomfortable position with a vibrator attached to some long stick stuck between their legs. If some maledom tried that --- the woman upon release would slap him and call him a moron. HUH!!!! ??? Are you serious? That is my favourite thing to happen to me! It's one of the kinks i regularly even suggest to vanilla men to do to me. I've been tied up for more than an hour with a plug in vibrator on me. And it's one of my favourite experiences.

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