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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
yep Im just gonna put it out there and get you to do your own damn research for a change.
tsk tsk me

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
now did I say or assume that you said otherwise that walmart was the worst????
I think I stated elsewhere that a living wage is needed. and that walmart is not the worst, just the best known.
And how many asshole companies are guilty of it

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I think Lookie is admitting he doesn't know if the men and women in that group of 7 make the same amount of money. If the guys make 900k and the women make 100k, all of them are earning 6 figures, but that doesn't mean they are all the same level on the "food chain."

You know, your example is a total flight of fantasy? A store manager in Wal-Mart would most likely NOT be paid $900K/year. That's a bit high! Maybe $80-130K is a more likely number depending on the location of the store. So let's go with that number. If the difference is $20K between a male and female, Wal-Mart would get slapped with a lawsuit from the Nation Labor Relations Board (the NLRB) for discrimination in the workplace. But we are not talking about manager's pay on this thread, right?

Its the employees. What percentage of those employees would be promoted to any level of serious 'wage earner'? Like less than 0.01%? That's a guess, but seems decent for the purpose of discussion. How many people join the company and wash out, quit or get fired? That number is added to the ones that 'soldiered' it out to the promotion over a number of years to arrive at that 0.01%. An that's just one store!

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
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How much tax does WalMart pay to the local government?

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

yep Im just gonna put it out there and get you to do your own damn research for a change.
tsk tsk me

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Im not american.

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ORIGINAL: tj444

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Im not american.

all my life the US sold products to us Canadians cuz they could produce "Made in America" using volume to undercut any Canadian companies that either existed or could have existed.. which is why Canada doesn't have much of a manufacturing base.. so the US losing jobs to China/India is the same thing, just now the shoe is on the other foot.. but I doubt many Americans actually recognize that or give one shite about any Canadians who lost jobs or their businesses ..

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Im not american.

all my life the US sold products to us Canadians cuz they could produce "Made in America" using volume to undercut any Canadian companies that either existed or could have existed.. which is why Canada doesn't have much of a manufacturing base.. so the US losing jobs to China/India is the same thing, just now the shoe is on the other foot.. but I doubt many Americans actually recognize that or give one shite about any Canadians who lost jobs or their businesses ..

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Im not american.

all my life the US sold products to us Canadians cuz they could produce "Made in America" using volume to undercut any Canadian companies that either existed or could have existed.. which is why Canada doesn't have much of a manufacturing base.. so the US losing jobs to China/India is the same thing, just now the shoe is on the other foot.. but I doubt many Americans actually recognize that or give one shite about any Canadians who lost jobs or their businesses ..

I have heard a lot of people blame those in the US for not buying american and supporting the chinese companies, I guess with your logic we should be blaming China?

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ORIGINAL: EdBowie

That's fascinating.  One of the big factors in America's manufacturing boom of the 50s, was that we came out of WWII with infrastructure unbombed, and a huge set of factories ramped up for the war effort and a vast number of workers coming home... cars, TV sets, bicycles, appliances, busses and so on could easily be pumped out in massive quantities.
When Germany and Japan rebuilt, only then did America have to be competitive.

So I'm curious, what did Canada do with all the material, manpower, and facilities after the war?

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Im not american.

all my life the US sold products to us Canadians cuz they could produce "Made in America" using volume to undercut any Canadian companies that either existed or could have existed.. which is why Canada doesn't have much of a manufacturing base.. so the US losing jobs to China/India is the same thing, just now the shoe is on the other foot.. but I doubt many Americans actually recognize that or give one shite about any Canadians who lost jobs or their businesses ..

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Im not american.

all my life the US sold products to us Canadians cuz they could produce "Made in America" using volume to undercut any Canadian companies that either existed or could have existed.. which is why Canada doesn't have much of a manufacturing base.. so the US losing jobs to China/India is the same thing, just now the shoe is on the other foot.. but I doubt many Americans actually recognize that or give one shite about any Canadians who lost jobs or their businesses ..

I have heard a lot of people blame those in the US for not buying american and supporting the chinese companies, I guess with your logic we should be blaming China?

there is a difference in that it was American corps selling American made products into Canada, where as in the US today, its (many of those same?) American corps selling Asian/offshore produced products into the US..
Its not about blame, although amazingly enough some Americans 20-some years later actually blame Nafta.. You are missing my point, which is that goods you sold to other countries displaced jobs in those countries (did you care about those workers & their lost jobs?), just as now Asian produced goods have displaced your American jobs..
Canadians didn't whine about it forever, they just adapted, worked with their strengths and thrived... Lookie is right that those jobs wont be coming back to the US (and now robotics is becoming the "new China" as far as what has cost you jobs)..

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ORIGINAL: EdBowie
That's fascinating.  One of the big factors in America's manufacturing boom of the 50s, was that we came out of WWII with infrastructure unbombed, and a huge set of factories ramped up for the war effort and a vast number of workers coming home... cars, TV sets, bicycles, appliances, busses and so on could easily be pumped out in massive quantities.
When Germany and Japan rebuilt, only then did America have to be competitive.
So I'm curious, what did Canada do with all the material, manpower, and facilities after the war?

I said Canada doesn't have much of a manufacturing base, I didn't say it didn't have any manufacturing..

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

Increasing productivity will result in lower costs. That's how this shit works.

If you blame the US for Canadians losing their manufacturing jobs, then you'll also get to blame the US for China losing many of it's manufacturing jobs if the US were to rein in imports and bring manufacturing back to the US.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
Increasing productivity will result in lower costs. That's how this shit works.
If you blame the US for Canadians losing their manufacturing jobs, then you'll also get to blame the US for China losing many of it's manufacturing jobs if the US were to rein in imports and bring manufacturing back to the US.

as I already said before its not about blame.. for decades you didn't give a dam about anyone outside the US that lost their jobs.. yeah, of course increasing productivity will result in lower costs.. yup, that is how that shit works, so why do Americans think that can't or shouldn't happen to them!??? That was the point..
of course now you have to figure out and decide what to do to turn things around, I seriously doubt that direction will come from govt and the (lobby heavy) temporary/fictional jobs that they claim to create with tax breaks, govt loan guarantees, etc like Fiskers Automotive, etc got.. (they just declared bankruptcy & sounds like a Hong Kong dude is gonna buy the assets)..

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
Increasing productivity will result in lower costs. That's how this shit works.
If you blame the US for Canadians losing their manufacturing jobs, then you'll also get to blame the US for China losing many of it's manufacturing jobs if the US were to rein in imports and bring manufacturing back to the US.

as I already said before its not about blame.. for decades you didn't give a dam about anyone outside the US that lost their jobs.. yeah, of course increasing productivity will result in lower costs.. yup, that is how that shit works, so why do Americans think that can't or shouldn't happen to them!??? That was the point..
of course now you have to figure out and decide what to do to turn things around, I seriously doubt that direction will come from govt and the (lobby heavy) temporary/fictional jobs that they claim to create with tax breaks, govt loan guarantees, etc like Fiskers Automotive, etc got.. (they just declared bankruptcy & sounds like a Hong Kong dude is gonna buy the assets)..

You are making a mistake. I'm not calling for tariffs and import duties or limits, in an effort to getting American manufacturing back. That's stagnant thinking there. I'm for manufacturing figuring out how to compete with other nations to bring manufacturing back. Even better than that, I'm all for American manufacturing and know how designing the next greatest thing to bring to Market. IMO, that will take care of American manufacturing.