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RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... - 11/22/2013 9:34:16 PM   
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Hundreds of years of free market behavior defines what an appropriate profit margin is. Only since the US economy was fundamentally corrupted has that changed. It's a major reason why the economy has never recovered from the 70's stagflation.

Excellent! What is an appropriate profit margin, then?

Before the 70's it was 1 to 2%. It seems an appropriate margin.


Hundreds of years of free market behavior defining an appropriate profit margin only results in something seeming to be appropriate? That doesn't sound like a definition.


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RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... - 11/23/2013 12:52:29 AM   
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Kinda looks to me like if the 6 remaining Waltons are worth more than the bottom 30% of American families, seems fairly obvious....those 30% of American families mentioned, ought to start up a competing store. If they each pitched in 50 bucks on average (ought to be at least 30 million families in that group), that'd give 'em 1.5 billion dollars to play with. I'd imagine they could make a nice dent in the Walton's net worth.

I'd guess you could buy most of SEARS for that price, easily Kmart.

But then.....that would require that 30 million people, collectively, had as many balls as Sam Walton did....all by himself.

Never mind....ain't gonna happen.

(It's too easy).

oh, I don't know about it being easy at all.. there would be the SEC regs they would have to work thru.. those people wouldn't be accredited investors so I question if such an endeavor would even be legal.. you know, cuz the govt wants to help poor people so they don't allow them to invest in certain ventures that the govt deems to be "too risky".. and there are new regs too, with the new JOBS Act regarding fundraising.. just sayin'..

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RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... - 11/23/2013 2:52:37 AM   
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And all those businesses will fail because profits in a healthy economy should be razor thin. Deflation is always a disaster. Imagining otherwise ignores both economic theory and history.

And, you are wrong. Profits don't have to be "razor thin." Profits should be healthy enough to lure people into supplying the market, but not so high as to lure too many suppliers, leading to oversupply and resource misallocation.
"Imagining otherwise ignores both economic theory and history."

If the profit margin on any item is higher than a couple of percent then, in the theoretical free market, other competitors will move in and under cut prices until that razor thin margin is achieved. That's how people who understand economics knows that at its very most basic heart the US economy is corrupt and has been since sometime in the early 80's when the idea of a 2% profit margin became unacceptable to the investment class.

Your definition of "razor thin" and an entrepreneur's definition of "razor thin" may vary.
Why aren't there more competitors coming in to undercut prices? What is preventing them?
And, just so we're on the same page, you don't get to define what the proper level of profit is for someone else. You are more than welcome to do that for yourself. But, when it's someone else taking risks and making the effort, that someone else gets to define for him or herself, what the proper level of profits is.

Hundreds of years of free market behavior defines what an appropriate profit margin is. Only since the US economy was fundamentally corrupted has that changed. It's a major reason why the economy has never recovered from the 70's stagflation.


Excellent! What is an appropriate profit margin, then?


Before the 70's it was 1 to 2%. It seems an appropriate margin.


Spoken by a man who has no concept of business of investment.

If we don't do 17% net annually, that was a bad year.

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RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... - 11/23/2013 4:45:05 AM   
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And all those businesses will fail because profits in a healthy economy should be razor thin. Deflation is always a disaster. Imagining otherwise ignores both economic theory and history.

And, you are wrong. Profits don't have to be "razor thin." Profits should be healthy enough to lure people into supplying the market, but not so high as to lure too many suppliers, leading to oversupply and resource misallocation.
"Imagining otherwise ignores both economic theory and history."

If the profit margin on any item is higher than a couple of percent then, in the theoretical free market, other competitors will move in and under cut prices until that razor thin margin is achieved. That's how people who understand economics knows that at its very most basic heart the US economy is corrupt and has been since sometime in the early 80's when the idea of a 2% profit margin became unacceptable to the investment class.

Your definition of "razor thin" and an entrepreneur's definition of "razor thin" may vary.
Why aren't there more competitors coming in to undercut prices? What is preventing them?
And, just so we're on the same page, you don't get to define what the proper level of profit is for someone else. You are more than welcome to do that for yourself. But, when it's someone else taking risks and making the effort, that someone else gets to define for him or herself, what the proper level of profits is.

Hundreds of years of free market behavior defines what an appropriate profit margin is. Only since the US economy was fundamentally corrupted has that changed. It's a major reason why the economy has never recovered from the 70's stagflation.


Excellent! What is an appropriate profit margin, then?


Before the 70's it was 1 to 2%. It seems an appropriate margin.

Spoken by a man who has no concept of business of investment.

If we don't do 17% net annually, that was a bad year.


These two are talking about 'profit margin' and NOT 'business investment' (a totally different concept in business). Do try to keep up with the conversation.....

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RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... - 11/23/2013 6:02:22 AM   
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Look at the line that most construction companies have when they post an ad (like mine) that pays $20.00 - $30.00/100% paid insurance...it runs in the tens....as in rarely more than 10 people.


So, would you hire anyone off the street, like some kid fresh out of high school (or maybe even a high school dropout) who knows nothing about construction? Would you give them on the job training?



I have, I do....and I will do so again in the future.

Some of our best talent over the years has started green and worked their way up the ladder.

(Like most company's).


People can do the same at Wal-Mart, can't they? It's not an automatic dead-end job. Maybe some of these people apply thinking that they can be store manager in a few years.


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RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... - 11/23/2013 6:45:44 PM   
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And all those businesses will fail because profits in a healthy economy should be razor thin. Deflation is always a disaster. Imagining otherwise ignores both economic theory and history.

And, you are wrong. Profits don't have to be "razor thin." Profits should be healthy enough to lure people into supplying the market, but not so high as to lure too many suppliers, leading to oversupply and resource misallocation.
"Imagining otherwise ignores both economic theory and history."

If the profit margin on any item is higher than a couple of percent then, in the theoretical free market, other competitors will move in and under cut prices until that razor thin margin is achieved. That's how people who understand economics knows that at its very most basic heart the US economy is corrupt and has been since sometime in the early 80's when the idea of a 2% profit margin became unacceptable to the investment class.

Your definition of "razor thin" and an entrepreneur's definition of "razor thin" may vary.
Why aren't there more competitors coming in to undercut prices? What is preventing them?
And, just so we're on the same page, you don't get to define what the proper level of profit is for someone else. You are more than welcome to do that for yourself. But, when it's someone else taking risks and making the effort, that someone else gets to define for him or herself, what the proper level of profits is.

Hundreds of years of free market behavior defines what an appropriate profit margin is. Only since the US economy was fundamentally corrupted has that changed. It's a major reason why the economy has never recovered from the 70's stagflation.


Excellent! What is an appropriate profit margin, then?


Before the 70's it was 1 to 2%. It seems an appropriate margin.

Spoken by a man who has no concept of business of investment.

If we don't do 17% net annually, that was a bad year.


These two are talking about 'profit margin' and NOT 'business investment' (a totally different concept in business). Do try to keep up with the conversation.....


I was talking about (net) profit margin (please do your best to keep up).

(I'm fairly confident....for those those who were paying attention....that wasn't too incredibly unclear).

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RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... - 11/23/2013 6:48:29 PM   
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Look at the line that most construction companies have when they post an ad (like mine) that pays $20.00 - $30.00/100% paid insurance...it runs in the tens....as in rarely more than 10 people.


So, would you hire anyone off the street, like some kid fresh out of high school (or maybe even a high school dropout) who knows nothing about construction? Would you give them on the job training?



I have, I do....and I will do so again in the future.

Some of our best talent over the years has started green and worked their way up the ladder.

(Like most company's).


People can do the same at Wal-Mart, can't they? It's not an automatic dead-end job. Maybe some of these people apply thinking that they can be store manager in a few years.




Absolutely.

(Some would have you believe otherwise....I know seven WalMart Managers....who came from the same place everyone else came from....less than starting wages "then"....that make 6 figures today. It's all about what you want...and what you're willing to work towards).

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RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... - 11/23/2013 7:45:03 PM   
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Absolutely.

(Some would have you believe otherwise....I know seven WalMart Managers....who came from the same place everyone else came from....less than starting wages "then"....that make 6 figures today. It's all about what you want...and what you're willing to work towards).

I would be interested in knowing how many of these 7 walmart managers you know were female and how many were male.. just cuz I have read (in an article) that women don't get very far up the food chain.. I'm curious if that was an isolated store or area & if that happens where you are too..

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RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... - 11/23/2013 8:57:52 PM   
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Absolutely.

(Some would have you believe otherwise....I know seven WalMart Managers....who came from the same place everyone else came from....less than starting wages "then"....that make 6 figures today. It's all about what you want...and what you're willing to work towards).

I would be interested in knowing how many of these 7 walmart managers you know were female and how many were male.. just cuz I have read (in an article) that women don't get very far up the food chain.. I'm curious if that was an isolated store or area & if that happens where you are too..


That actually is a great question.

I'm not privy to their W-2's but, based on what I know...even if there's some differential, the folks that wanted to improve their lives did well, nonetheless.

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RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... - 11/24/2013 3:19:50 AM   
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And all those businesses will fail because profits in a healthy economy should be razor thin. Deflation is always a disaster. Imagining otherwise ignores both economic theory and history.

And, you are wrong. Profits don't have to be "razor thin." Profits should be healthy enough to lure people into supplying the market, but not so high as to lure too many suppliers, leading to oversupply and resource misallocation.
"Imagining otherwise ignores both economic theory and history."

If the profit margin on any item is higher than a couple of percent then, in the theoretical free market, other competitors will move in and under cut prices until that razor thin margin is achieved. That's how people who understand economics knows that at its very most basic heart the US economy is corrupt and has been since sometime in the early 80's when the idea of a 2% profit margin became unacceptable to the investment class.

Your definition of "razor thin" and an entrepreneur's definition of "razor thin" may vary.
Why aren't there more competitors coming in to undercut prices? What is preventing them?
And, just so we're on the same page, you don't get to define what the proper level of profit is for someone else. You are more than welcome to do that for yourself. But, when it's someone else taking risks and making the effort, that someone else gets to define for him or herself, what the proper level of profits is.

Hundreds of years of free market behavior defines what an appropriate profit margin is. Only since the US economy was fundamentally corrupted has that changed. It's a major reason why the economy has never recovered from the 70's stagflation.


Excellent! What is an appropriate profit margin, then?


Before the 70's it was 1 to 2%. It seems an appropriate margin.

Spoken by a man who has no concept of business of investment.

If we don't do 17% net annually, that was a bad year.


These two are talking about 'profit margin' and NOT 'business investment' (a totally different concept in business). Do try to keep up with the conversation.....


I was talking about (net) profit margin (please do your best to keep up).

(I'm fairly confident....for those those who were paying attention....that wasn't too incredibly unclear).


Oh I was keeping up just fine. You did NOT mention NET PROFIT MARGIN, did you? No. You stated "If we don't do 17% net annually, that was a bad year." This implies a business investment after the fact of the actual profit margin. You were not clear, and therefore, have no reason to bitch at others. We are not mind readers....

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RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... - 11/24/2013 3:22:32 AM   
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Absolutely.

(Some would have you believe otherwise....I know seven WalMart Managers....who came from the same place everyone else came from....less than starting wages "then"....that make 6 figures today. It's all about what you want...and what you're willing to work towards).

I would be interested in knowing how many of these 7 walmart managers you know were female and how many were male.. just cuz I have read (in an article) that women don't get very far up the food chain.. I'm curious if that was an isolated store or area & if that happens where you are too..


That actually is a great question.

I'm not privy to their W-2's but, based on what I know...even if there's some differential, the folks that wanted to improve their lives did well, nonetheless.


Here you are bitching at someone about 'not keeping up' and you go do the same thing! I believe tj444 is asking you to PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOU MOUTH IS....and.....SHOW THE EVIDENCE. Your the one making the argument and must show the burden of evidence that its true.

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RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... - 11/24/2013 6:51:04 AM   
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Absolutely.
(Some would have you believe otherwise....I know seven WalMart Managers....who came from the same place everyone else came from....less than starting wages "then"....that make 6 figures today. It's all about what you want...and what you're willing to work towards).

I would be interested in knowing how many of these 7 walmart managers you know were female and how many were male.. just cuz I have read (in an article) that women don't get very far up the food chain.. I'm curious if that was an isolated store or area & if that happens where you are too..

That actually is a great question.
I'm not privy to their W-2's but, based on what I know...even if there's some differential, the folks that wanted to improve their lives did well, nonetheless.

Here you are bitching at someone about 'not keeping up' and you go do the same thing! I believe tj444 is asking you to PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOU MOUTH IS....and.....SHOW THE EVIDENCE. Your the one making the argument and must show the burden of evidence that its true.


I think Lookie is admitting he doesn't know if the men and women in that group of 7 make the same amount of money. If the guys make 900k and the women make 100k, all of them are earning 6 figures, but that doesn't mean they are all the same level on the "food chain."

Lookie could have stated how many were women and how many were men, but it still would not have verified or refuted the "food chain" comment, though it would have answered the question.


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RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... - 11/24/2013 9:13:24 AM   
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Absolutely.
(Some would have you believe otherwise....I know seven WalMart Managers....who came from the same place everyone else came from....less than starting wages "then"....that make 6 figures today. It's all about what you want...and what you're willing to work towards).

I would be interested in knowing how many of these 7 walmart managers you know were female and how many were male.. just cuz I have read (in an article) that women don't get very far up the food chain.. I'm curious if that was an isolated store or area & if that happens where you are too..

That actually is a great question.
I'm not privy to their W-2's but, based on what I know...even if there's some differential, the folks that wanted to improve their lives did well, nonetheless.

Here you are bitching at someone about 'not keeping up' and you go do the same thing! I believe tj444 is asking you to PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOU MOUTH IS....and.....SHOW THE EVIDENCE. Your the one making the argument and must show the burden of evidence that its true.


I think Lookie is admitting he doesn't know if the men and women in that group of 7 make the same amount of money. If the guys make 900k and the women make 100k, all of them are earning 6 figures, but that doesn't mean they are all the same level on the "food chain."

Lookie could have stated how many were women and how many were men, but it still would not have verified or refuted the "food chain" comment, though it would have answered the question.


yes, I was interested in the genders of the managers, not necessarily how much each was paid.. but then I expect a "Manager" to earn more than a greeter or cashier tho.. although with walmart, my expectation that there is an increase in pay to go along with a more prestigious "title" could very well be wrong!...

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RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... - 11/24/2013 4:28:02 PM   
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And all those businesses will fail because profits in a healthy economy should be razor thin. Deflation is always a disaster. Imagining otherwise ignores both economic theory and history.

And, you are wrong. Profits don't have to be "razor thin." Profits should be healthy enough to lure people into supplying the market, but not so high as to lure too many suppliers, leading to oversupply and resource misallocation.
"Imagining otherwise ignores both economic theory and history."

If the profit margin on any item is higher than a couple of percent then, in the theoretical free market, other competitors will move in and under cut prices until that razor thin margin is achieved. That's how people who understand economics knows that at its very most basic heart the US economy is corrupt and has been since sometime in the early 80's when the idea of a 2% profit margin became unacceptable to the investment class.

Your definition of "razor thin" and an entrepreneur's definition of "razor thin" may vary.
Why aren't there more competitors coming in to undercut prices? What is preventing them?
And, just so we're on the same page, you don't get to define what the proper level of profit is for someone else. You are more than welcome to do that for yourself. But, when it's someone else taking risks and making the effort, that someone else gets to define for him or herself, what the proper level of profits is.

Hundreds of years of free market behavior defines what an appropriate profit margin is. Only since the US economy was fundamentally corrupted has that changed. It's a major reason why the economy has never recovered from the 70's stagflation.


Excellent! What is an appropriate profit margin, then?


Before the 70's it was 1 to 2%. It seems an appropriate margin.

Spoken by a man who has no concept of business of investment.

If we don't do 17% net annually, that was a bad year.


These two are talking about 'profit margin' and NOT 'business investment' (a totally different concept in business). Do try to keep up with the conversation.....


I was talking about (net) profit margin (please do your best to keep up).

(I'm fairly confident....for those those who were paying attention....that wasn't too incredibly unclear).


Oh I was keeping up just fine. You did NOT mention NET PROFIT MARGIN, did you? No. You stated "If we don't do 17% net annually, that was a bad year." This implies a business investment after the fact of the actual profit margin. You were not clear, and therefore, have no reason to bitch at others. We are not mind readers....


Actually, what I said was "If we don't do 17% net annually, that was a bad year."

For those who run businesses, that's a fairly clear statement.

I'm sorry it wasn't clear to you.

(It seems unbelievably clear to anyone with an IQ above a paper cut).

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RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... - 11/24/2013 4:30:13 PM   
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Absolutely.

(Some would have you believe otherwise....I know seven WalMart Managers....who came from the same place everyone else came from....less than starting wages "then"....that make 6 figures today. It's all about what you want...and what you're willing to work towards).

I would be interested in knowing how many of these 7 walmart managers you know were female and how many were male.. just cuz I have read (in an article) that women don't get very far up the food chain.. I'm curious if that was an isolated store or area & if that happens where you are too..


That actually is a great question.

I'm not privy to their W-2's but, based on what I know...even if there's some differential, the folks that wanted to improve their lives did well, nonetheless.


Here you are bitching at someone about 'not keeping up' and you go do the same thing! I believe tj444 is asking you to PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOU MOUTH IS....and.....SHOW THE EVIDENCE. Your the one making the argument and must show the burden of evidence that its true.


Yes, of course, this is the internet after all....no one can do their own research or thinking here....Google is your friend:

http://www.bing.com/search?q=average+wages+of+walmart+managers&pc=MOZI&form=MOZSBR

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RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... - 11/24/2013 4:32:06 PM   
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Absolutely.
(Some would have you believe otherwise....I know seven WalMart Managers....who came from the same place everyone else came from....less than starting wages "then"....that make 6 figures today. It's all about what you want...and what you're willing to work towards).

I would be interested in knowing how many of these 7 walmart managers you know were female and how many were male.. just cuz I have read (in an article) that women don't get very far up the food chain.. I'm curious if that was an isolated store or area & if that happens where you are too..

That actually is a great question.
I'm not privy to their W-2's but, based on what I know...even if there's some differential, the folks that wanted to improve their lives did well, nonetheless.

Here you are bitching at someone about 'not keeping up' and you go do the same thing! I believe tj444 is asking you to PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOU MOUTH IS....and.....SHOW THE EVIDENCE. Your the one making the argument and must show the burden of evidence that its true.


I think Lookie is admitting he doesn't know if the men and women in that group of 7 make the same amount of money. If the guys make 900k and the women make 100k, all of them are earning 6 figures, but that doesn't mean they are all the same level on the "food chain."

Lookie could have stated how many were women and how many were men, but it still would not have verified or refuted the "food chain" comment, though it would have answered the question.



Desi, that's not a satisfactory answer....those that have a death wish to believe their own message must use conjecture instead of facts.

(It's the way it's done on the interweb).

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RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... - 11/25/2013 5:15:08 AM   
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I think Lookie is admitting he doesn't know if the men and women in that group of 7 make the same amount of money. If the guys make 900k and the women make 100k, all of them are earning 6 figures, but that doesn't mean they are all the same level on the "food chain."


You know, your example is a total flight of fantasy? A store manager in Wal-Mart would most likely NOT be paid $900K/year. That's a bit high! Maybe $80-130K is a more likely number depending on the location of the store. So let's go with that number. If the difference is $20K between a male and female, Wal-Mart would get slapped with a lawsuit from the Nation Labor Relations Board (the NLRB) for discrimination in the workplace. But we are not talking about manager's pay on this thread, right?

Its the employees. What percentage of those employees would be promoted to any level of serious 'wage earner'? Like less than 0.01%? That's a guess, but seems decent for the purpose of discussion. How many people join the company and wash out, quit or get fired? That number is added to the ones that 'soldiered' it out to the promotion over a number of years to arrive at that 0.01%. An that's just one store!


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RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... - 11/25/2013 6:49:44 AM   
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I think Lookie is admitting he doesn't know if the men and women in that group of 7 make the same amount of money. If the guys make 900k and the women make 100k, all of them are earning 6 figures, but that doesn't mean they are all the same level on the "food chain."

You know, your example is a total flight of fantasy? A store manager in Wal-Mart would most likely NOT be paid $900K/year. That's a bit high!


Why are you focused so much on the numbers? I know they weren't likely. I chose them out of thin air just to make the point that someone earning $900k and another earning $100k for the same position are both making "6-figures," but they aren't really being treated equally.

I was not making any claim on the actual wages paid by WalMart.


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RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... - 11/25/2013 8:21:46 AM   
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RE: Wal-Mart Employees' Thanksgiving Food Drive... - 11/25/2013 8:27:52 AM   
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How much tax does WalMart pay to the local government?


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