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How many people here are Jewish? - 11/25/2013 2:15:19 AM

MalcolmNathaniel

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I am not trying to offend anyone and I am not trying to break the rules here.

I am curious as to how many people are Jews. For the record: I am. It was very difficult for me as a Jew and an American to recognize my fetishes. We (Jews)have an entire week long holiday celebrating not being slaves anymore and here I am trying to convince women to be my slave. And then there is the whole Constitution thing.

Do you have any idea how difficult it is to be a Jew,a firm believer in the Constitution and a fetishist?

By the way: any ladies who try to ease my pain by posting naked, or mostly naked, pictures, the sentiment will not go unnoticed.

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RE: How many people here are Jewish? - 11/25/2013 4:11:17 AM

kiwisub12

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I worship a Jew.
Does that count?

and I see the irony of celebrating being free and wanting a slave at the same time - even if the slavery is consensual.
Good luck in your search.

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RE: How many people here are Jewish? - 11/25/2013 5:31:51 AM

SweetAnise

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I am African American with a little Jewish blood. My ancestors were slaves for over 400 years and even my grandmother was out there picking cotton. I believe that your kink/lifestyle has to come with growth and evolvement. This is fantasy. It isn't real. If it is too real for you or to difficult to manage then you should rethink why you're doing this in the first place. I do believe people take their kink too far just look at the tons of news media of women and children being chained, enslaved for years, raped, etc.. And I am sure there are men who have been through the same. So I guess my point is...if you are having a hard time seeing this as fantasy maybe you should reflect on why you're doing this and maybe seek out some professional help to help you discuss the real issues behind your thoughts and feelings.

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RE: How many people here are Jewish? - 11/25/2013 5:54:30 AM

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It's about knowing the difference between reality and fantasy. At some mulit-era hisotrical re-enactment events, there are a bunch of guys who turn up as an East Berlin border post guard squad, with authentic uniforms, weapons and accessories. Nobody assumes they must approve of the Soviet tyranny they are playing at.

Yes, there are limits. You can do re-enacment with Nazi uniforms here, but do it in Germany and you'll be arrested. And much as I like rape scenes, when I write for my current publisher I have to make sure all sex is scrupulously consensual because they're selling to a market that don't want NC. But that's about not offending people with your fantasies, not because the fantasy is bad in itself.

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RE: How many people here are Jewish? - 11/25/2013 5:55:48 AM

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My sub is Jewish. Sometimes I call him 'boychik.'

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RE: How many people here are Jewish? - 11/25/2013 5:58:36 AM

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Christ! And I mean that hypocritically, all the Jews I know have 'staff'.

Even during the Exodus:

Then his master shall bring him unto the judges; he shall also bring him to the door, or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an aul; and he shall serve him for ever.

If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do.

and judges, see my sig.

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RE: How many people here are Jewish? - 11/25/2013 6:07:25 AM

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I am not Jewish, but I integrate some Jewish customs in my life. At work, I give candy out on the first day of school so learning will be sweet... similar to a Jewish tradition. I also teach about people not eating pork... it isn't just part of Islamic tradition but Judaic as well. Because of these things, people I work with think I am of the tribe. I usually observe Yom Kippur and say the Kaddish when appropriate.

JBA... Jewish by Association, that's me!

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RE: How many people here are Jewish? - 11/25/2013 7:11:36 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MalcolmNathaniel

I am not trying to offend anyone and I am not trying to break the rules here.

I am curious as to how many people are Jews. For the record: I am. It was very difficult for me as a Jew and an American to recognize my fetishes. We (Jews)have an entire week long holiday celebrating not being slaves anymore and here I am trying to convince women to be my slave. And then there is the whole Constitution thing.

Do you have any idea how difficult it is to be a Jew,a firm believer in the Constitution and a fetishist?

By the way: any ladies who try to ease my pain by posting naked, or mostly naked, pictures, the sentiment will not go unnoticed.

Slavery as a relationship style is a choice, and it's as temporary as either party wants it to be. The reality is that d/s is about having a relationship "as if" one party has 51% of the vote. It's a metaphor.

By definition, when it comes to real slavery, there's no need to "convince". It's not an option. What we do can feel real, but it's not in any legally enforceable sense. Jews celebrate because they did not want to be slaves and were finally freed -- there is no comparison between that d/s.

It's "as if". If a slave "escapes" the police don't get called, the owner has no rights and if in fact he/she tries to reclaim the slave without their consent, it's the owner who goes to jail, and likely gets sued as well.

Perhaps it will help if you think in terms of surrender and yielding, of finding one who will give themselves to you (and who has the right to put an end to it) rather then a slave that one would buy like chattel.

Freedom means having the right to choose, and you are chosen as master as much as you choose someone as slave.

And yes, I'm Jewish. Family emigrated after the war; I had an aunt and an uncle in the camps (both survived) my maternal grandparents were the on the last train to Auschwitz. And my family converted. I was born and raised Protestant (why? because my father thought it was the most benevolent/least intrusive denominations). All my parents wanted after the war was a melting pot democracy (my father had spent 6 months in a labor camp for not joining the communist party).

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RE: How many people here are Jewish? - 11/25/2013 7:30:23 AM

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I'm Jewish.

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The small-breasted ones want larger breasts. The large-breasted ones want smaller ones. The straight-haired ones curl their hair, and the curly-haired ones straighten theirs...

Quit fretting. We men love you."

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RE: How many people here are Jewish? - 11/25/2013 7:45:50 AM

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Depends how you define it- according to Halakha I am, but we haven't practised for several generations.

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RE: How many people here are Jewish? - 11/25/2013 10:53:46 AM

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I just had that DNA sequencing thing done via 23andme.com and I am 10% Ashkenazi Jew. Maybe that explains my addiction to chicken soup.

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RE: How many people here are Jewish? - 11/25/2013 11:39:49 AM

SweetAnise

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DarkSteven why didn't you say so before...no wonder I like your postings...

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RE: How many people here are Jewish? - 11/25/2013 12:03:03 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: kiwisub12

I worship a Jew.
Does that count?

Of course it does, kiwi! That's called 'Jewish by penetration'! At least that's how my goy-boy S sees it.

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RE: How many people here are Jewish? - 11/25/2013 12:04:53 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

My sub is Jewish. Sometimes I call him 'boychik.'

Chatte, try 'goychik' one day and see what happens.

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RE: How many people here are Jewish? - 11/25/2013 12:07:46 PM

LadyPact

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I'm not Jewish, but maybe I can help you out a little here.

I'm a person of faith. I also happen to be a female Dominant who is a sadist and I live a poly lifestyle. The majority of those latter two, I'm spending most of My time inflicting upon a missionary's son. From what I understand, his father practically became a minister.

Which one of us do you think is going to be in more trouble?

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RE: How many people here are Jewish? - 11/25/2013 12:11:54 PM

evesgrden

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Apocalypso

Depends how you define it- according to Halakha I am, but we haven't practised for several generations.

yes.. race or religion?

By blood I'm 100% Jewish. In practice? I went to Sunday School, sang in the Christmas choir at school every year, and much to the chagrin of my Conservative aunt when I was 7 years old and she asked me to sing my favorite song, I proudly belted out "what a friend we have in jesus...."

oy

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RE: How many people here are Jewish? - 11/25/2013 12:21:31 PM

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According to dna testing, I'm 99.6% Ashkenazi. There's a smidgen of Asian, perhaps explaining why my Russian Jew mom and dad were so into Asian culture.

As far as lifestyle vs tribe conflict: none. I'm definitely dominant but I don't enslave people, I just love them in ways we all enjoy. At the end of the day it's just not something we really ponder.

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RE: How many people here are Jewish? - 11/25/2013 12:28:27 PM

MistressDarkArt

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ORIGINAL: evesgrden

I proudly belted out "what a friend we have in jesus...."

oy

Eve, you might very much enjoy 'Kosher Christmas Carols', the best of both worlds. Why settle for one?

I play it on Christmas Day to enjoy the festive carols (which are beautiful) and laugh my *ss off at the lyrics. It helps me remember my folks, both of whom passed. You can download from Amazon and samples are available to try before you buy.

http://www.amazon.com/Kosher-Christmas-Carols-Silly-Presents/dp/B0010X2TAU

I think my favorite is 'The Merry Yentas'.

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RE: How many people here are Jewish? - 11/25/2013 12:34:19 PM

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Which one of us do you think is going to be in more trouble?

Neither. It's all about loving, and supposedly that's the most important theme in every religion.

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RE: How many people here are Jewish? - 11/25/2013 2:47:08 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressDarkArt

quote:

ORIGINAL: evesgrden

I proudly belted out "what a friend we have in jesus...."

oy

Eve, you might very much enjoy 'Kosher Christmas Carols', the best of both worlds. Why settle for one?

I play it on Christmas Day to enjoy the festive carols (which are beautiful) and laugh my *ss off at the lyrics. It helps me remember my folks, both of whom passed. You can download from Amazon and samples are available to try before you buy.

http://www.amazon.com/Kosher-Christmas-Carols-Silly-Presents/dp/B0010X2TAU

I think my favorite is 'The Merry Yentas'.

Adam Sandler has this locked up: Put on your yarmulke and let's celebrate hannukah!

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