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sweetgirlserves -> The Word of the Average American (11/30/2013 4:40:52 PM)
Hello again, I am still working on the whole money issue and what we are going to do about it. ; ) Along with that, I really appreciate the comments Master Frank made on the 'What Would Marlenus of Ar' thread related to receiving written letters sealed with a stamp in your mailbox, versus getting an email. Personally, I still send good old-fashioned Christmas cards wtih a handwritten note, but that's the extent of my writing actual hand-written letters anymore. And again, funny looking back now that I'm 47... I used to write letters to my grandmother in Florida and she would write me back. A phone call from Massachusetts to Florida was expensive back then, so how else could I talk to her? I also had a penpal in New Jersey growing up, and we wrote back and forth for years. All of my school papers were handwritten, until college, and then they were typed on a typewriter. I think when you date, write and sign something yourself, with a pen and ink on a paper, it seems more significant then when you type it quick and send it in email. No one does that much anymore. Again... everything is going so fast... Do you think anyone stops to think of the value of their word anymore? Is it something that we have lost value for... and if it is, is it something that we have to gain back. And if so, how? How, when in one way or another, we are all guilty of the same, I am sure, at one time or another. Some just to a much greater magnitude and effect than others... but still, at the core, the same thing. Right? Sincerely, ~sgs

MasterHighOne -> RE: The Word of the Average American (11/30/2013 5:06:13 PM)
I agree that as a collective, we have lost value in many things. Especially the value of one's word. It is the only thing I still try to count on. It has served me amazingly well as I have made many friends with nothing but my word and also gained the respect of my enemies with it as well. Handwritten words have always had more significance than a typed word. But I digress slightly. And I'm replying in a slight rush lol.

tammystarm -> RE: The Word of the Average American (11/30/2013 8:50:08 PM)
quote: [Do you think anyone stops to think of the value of their word anymore? Is it something that we have lost value for... Yes. No. yawn. Do you think the attributes of a man including integrity of His word can be judged by His written words or by His actions and those who love Him? Star of Arturas

sweetgirlserves -> RE: The Word of the Average American (11/30/2013 10:02:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterHighOne I agree that as a collective, we have lost value in many things. Especially the value of one's word. It is the only thing I still try to count on. It has served me amazingly well as I have made many friends with nothing but my word and also gained the respect of my enemies with it as well. Handwritten words have always had more significance than a typed word. But I digress slightly. And I'm replying in a slight rush lol. Hello Master, I appreciate you pointing out that your word has gained you the respect of your enemies. I suppose it is also the way we build trusting relationships with strangers, as well. That is what I have found, anyways. ~sgs

FrankAr -> RE: The Word of the Average American (12/1/2013 12:16:06 AM)
So bitch where is my Christmas card......just chuckles away. Frank Ar.

kajirarainn -> RE: The Word of the Average American (12/1/2013 6:07:31 AM)
I think the written word has gone by the wayside with todays technology. For example I recently learned that cursive writing is not taught to our children any more! When I asked a teacher about it I was shocked to hear them say because it is unnecessary. I disagree I think it is very necessary, another thing I do not get is "text speak" every time someone sends me a text using just letters I want to run to my local book store buy a dictionary drive to the persons house and beat them with it.

xBullx -> RE: The Word of the Average American (12/1/2013 6:20:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kajirarainn I think the written word has gone by the wayside with todays technology. For example I recently learned that cursive writing is not taught to our children any more! When I asked a teacher about it I was shocked to hear them say because it is unnecessary. I disagree I think it is very necessary, another thing I do not get is "text speak" every time someone sends me a text using just letters I want to run to my local book store buy a dictionary drive to the persons house and beat them with it. I couldn't agree more...

sunshinemiss -> RE: The Written Word of the Average Person (12/1/2013 6:30:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tammystarm quote: [Do you think anyone stops to think of the value of their word anymore? Is it something that we have lost value for... Yes. No. yawn. Star of Arturas That was a rude comment and completely uncalled for. Hello sgs, Many things have fallen by the wayside in our fast-paced lifestyles. Remote controls have replaced the knobs on the television. Instant and fast food have replaced capital M Meals. Superhighways have replaced country roads. The "like" button has replaced conversation. Greeting cards have replaced letters. You say you send out "good old fashioned Christmas cards" which leads me to believe that you go to a store and buy them ready made or have them pre-printed and delivered to you. Nothing wrong with either of these options, but I wonder why you don't hand print or hand paint your cards? I was once invited to a wedding, and the bride and groom had hand-written every word on every invitation. There was no printing company involved. There was paper and an ink pen or two. I expect that the reason you don't hand print / hand paint your own cards (as the bride and groom did) is the same as -or at least similar to - the reason many people don't hand write letters. "I don't know how to paint" is the same as "I don't know what to say"... "There isn't enough time" applies to both as does, "I don't enjoy it." As an aside, I am left wondering how much deep thinking people are able to do these days with insta-everything. Do we have / make the time to see the connections that are the fodder for good writing? Do we risk being vulnerable by speaking / writing from our hearts - and alternatively, is that heartfelt expression understood for what it is on the other side of the letter? Do we have the patience to allow ideas to rise and flow? Just a few thoughts that your post conjured up. Best wishes, sunshine (edited - grammar)

thursdays -> RE: The Word of the Average American (12/1/2013 6:37:49 AM)
[argh]

crazyml -> RE: The Word of the Average American (12/1/2013 6:44:58 AM)
I see where you're coming from. Each christmas I make a small number of cards, and send them to my closest friends, usually with a written note. I used to send a bunch of shop-bought cards to people I wasn't as close to, but a while ago I opted to give a pound to charity for each e-card I sent, so most of my other cards are e-cards. I try to always write thank-you notes by hand, so if I've been a guest in someone's home I'll usually send a thank-you letter or card. Not only does it feel better to me, it generally makes a better impression on the recipient. I'm not all that bothered about text speak in some contexts, while in others it irritates the life out of me. I'm always faintly conscious that whenever I judge someone for their grammar, I'm almost guaranteed to make half a dozen grammatical errors while doing so.

sunshinemiss -> RE: The Word of the Average American (12/1/2013 6:56:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crazyml I see where you're coming from. Each christmas (capitalize) I make a small number of cards, (delete comma) and send them to my closest friends, usually with a written note. I used to send a bunch of shop-bought cards to people I wasn't as close to, but a while ago I opted to give a pound to charity for each e-card I sent, so most of my other cards are e-cards. I try to always write thank-you notes by hand, so if I've been a guest in someone's home (add a comma) I'll usually send a thank-you letter or card. Not only does it feel better to me, it generally makes a better impression on the recipient. I'm not all that bothered about text speak in some contexts, while in others it irritates the life out of me. I'm always faintly conscious that whenever I judge someone for their grammar, I'm almost guaranteed to make half a dozen grammatical errors while doing so. I couldn't resist. [8D] Best, sunshine

thursdays -> RE: The Word of the Average American (12/1/2013 7:01:51 AM)
[blast]

sunshinemiss -> RE: The Word of the Average American (12/1/2013 7:03:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thursdays [blast] First comma is deleted because you don't have a second subject in the sentence. *eta: I'm just messing with crazyml all in good fun. I couldn't really care less about his grammar. He r smart.

kajirarainn -> RE: The Word of the Average American (12/1/2013 7:19:59 AM)
gets her gun and points it at the grammar police you will never take me alive!

Kirata -> RE: The Word of the Average American (12/1/2013 10:21:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tammystarm Yes. No. yawn. Do you think the attributes of a man including integrity of His word can be judged by His written words or by His actions and those who love Him? Star of Arturas I still think Arturas is writing this stuff. Maybe it's the pink? K.

Musicmystery -> RE: The Word of the Average American (12/1/2013 11:45:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss quote: ORIGINAL: crazyml I see where you're coming from. Each christmas (capitalize) I make a small number of cards, (delete comma) and send them to my closest friends, usually with a written note. I used to send a bunch of shop-bought cards to people I wasn't as close to, but a while ago I opted to give a pound to charity for each e-card I sent, so most of my other cards are e-cards. I try to always write thank-you notes by hand, so if I've been a guest in someone's home (add a comma) I'll usually send a thank-you letter or card. Not only does it feel better to me, it generally makes a better impression on the recipient. I'm not all that bothered about text speak in some contexts, while in others it irritates the life out of me. I'm always faintly conscious that whenever I judge someone for their grammar, I'm almost guaranteed to make half a dozen grammatical errors while doing so. I couldn't resist. [8D] Best, sunshine Not a bad editing job, with one glaring omission: the unfinished correlative. Not only . . . but also . . . . <-- missing the second half of the correlative. Also, what fills the blanks must be parallel; his construction is not. ;-)

Dinnardin -> RE: The Word of the Average American (12/1/2013 11:48:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: tammystarm Yes. No. yawn. Do you think the attributes of a man including integrity of His word can be judged by His written words or by His actions and those who love Him? Star of Arturas I still think Arturas is writing this stuff. Maybe it's the pink? K. Does it really make any difference whether it is a slaveboy or its Mistress? John, AKA Dinnardin

sweetgirlserves -> RE: The Written Word of the Average Person (12/1/2013 6:57:42 PM)
Hello sunshinemiss, Thank you for your thoughtful and intelligent comments. I am really trying to apply everything I learn to a very important purpose, so I appreciate intelligent, thoughtful insight. I know it is probably difficult for most to take the time to 'get off the train', so-to-speak, to even visit here for meaningful discussion anymore. Some of the smartest people I know right now are making minimum wage or a little more and working very hard, oftentimes, 2 jobs, just to get by. And if they have any shread of decent relationships left after the wreckage of all the last couple of decades have brought us, they are probably treading water trying to find a little 'quality time' to spend with a significant other... never mind even thinking about children, or our parents, grandparents (if they are still around), and gee.. an aunt, uncle or cousin now and then? A friend... certainly not a neighbor, we don't even know who they are. That being said, for those who (what is an acceptable way for a slave to emphasize something without seeming out of her station? italics, probably)... For those who choose to derail themselves long enough and honor the hope of the Free and the Home of the Brave, it would be nice to see more intelligent, thoughtful, mindful comments from the Great Minds who have been figuring it all out beyond decorating the House (not that a little decoration here and there isn't meaningful at times) . I would be willing to beg the likes of Leonidas and the rest of those Great Minds mentioned in Master Bull's post 'The American Dilemma'. Did I say willing to beg? Anyways... Back to Sunshinemiss's comments and everyone else who helped bring emphasis to it, I appreciate You All helping me stay on track! ; ) It made me realize that even within the written language, a misplaced comma can completely change the meaning of the sentence. I catch a lot of mistakes when I take the time to go back over and read it, once, maybe even twice or more, if I need to work it out to communicate exactly what I mean. That is all within one language... how many do we have now? Sincerely, ~sgs

sunshinemiss -> RE: The Word of the Average American (12/1/2013 11:16:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss quote: ORIGINAL: crazyml I see where you're coming from. Each christmas (capitalize) I make a small number of cards, (delete comma) and send them to my closest friends, usually with a written note. I used to send a bunch of shop-bought cards to people I wasn't as close to, but a while ago I opted to give a pound to charity for each e-card I sent, so most of my other cards are e-cards. I try to always write thank-you notes by hand, so if I've been a guest in someone's home (add a comma) I'll usually send a thank-you letter or card. Not only does it feel better to me, it generally makes a better impression on the recipient. I'm not all that bothered about text speak in some contexts, while in others it irritates the life out of me. I'm always faintly conscious that whenever I judge someone for their grammar, I'm almost guaranteed to make half a dozen grammatical errors while doing so. I couldn't resist. [8D] Best, sunshine Not a bad editing job, with one glaring omission: the unfinished correlative. Not only . . . but also . . . . <-- missing the second half of the correlative. Also, what fills the blanks must be parallel; his construction is not. ;-) You got me!

sunshinemiss -> RE: The Word of the Average American (12/1/2013 11:41:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kajirarainn I think the written word has gone by the wayside with todays technology. For example I recently learned that cursive writing is not taught to our children any more! When I asked a teacher about it I was shocked to hear them say because it is unnecessary. I disagree I think it is very necessary, another thing I do not get is "text speak" every time someone sends me a text using just letters I want to run to my local book store buy a dictionary drive to the persons house and beat them with it. Hello Rainn, Cursive handwriting, like shorthand, is obsolete. Computers have taken the place of notebooks. Power point has replaced blackboards. Texting has replaced memo taking. Sure, we could still teach cursive and shorthand and how to make a rotary phone, but why waste time teaching obsolete things when there are so many new things to teach? Addition and subtraction are the building blocks of higher level math necessary for engineering and medicine and cooking and figuring out how much time I have to get ready before the bus comes. As such, they are useful tools and foundations. What does cursive teach? What does it lead to ? What does it support? Nothing. I would much rather students use their time learning something useful. You want to "shoot the grammar police" who are teasing each other while bemoaning the loss of cursive writing. Grammar changes meaning. Cursive is just pretty; nothing wrong with pretty for the sake of pretty, but if there is no other option, I will generally choose "useful". I've noticed that twice now in your notes you use examples of violence as your method of making a point when someone disagrees with you. In nine posts that is quite a bit. I want to teach people that violence is rarely the answer, but oh wait... I do teach that to my students. To me, teaching good communications skills and patience and anger management are a better use of my skills and resources than teaching something obsolete like cursive handwriting. best, sunshine

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